[Bill-n-Brillo]

Originally Posted by The Villager II

I look at it as a very long vehicle and allow them all to stay together in a group. Motorcycles do it as well. No big deal to me.

I've ridden motorcycles for many, many years - sometimes with groups - and have never done this nor seen it done.....nor have I observed it while in a car.....unless it was for an organized motorcycle event where the authorities were involved in stopping cross-traffic at intersections.

Not saying it HASN'T happened somewhere - I've just never seen it anywhere.

Bill

[gongoozler]

There are bad drivers (fail to give 3 feet to a cyclist), there are bad cyclists (not following the rules of the road) and there are bad golf cart drivers (exceeding speed limits and driving on the path like they are only golf cart paths) . . . that's all there is to it. Just take one violation, I cannot tell you how many cart drivers and cyclist I've seen in the Villages with headsets on . . . this is against the law in Flroida and the ticket is more than $100 but many are doing it.
So how do we stop all these violators? More police? Is that what we really want . . . more taxes and a bigger police state? All I know is that you have to drive defensively as there are a lot of idiots and people who just do not pay attention out there!

[Matt and Gail]

Originally Posted by cybrgeezer

As an avid cyclist, I blame the police.

You have got to be kidding me? Really? Wonder who's to blame if one gets dismounted because of their stupidity doing things like this? Oh right, it would be the (fill in the blank with whomever we want to blame).

[cybrgeezer]

Originally Posted by Matt and Gail

You have got to be kidding me? Really? Wonder who's to blame if one gets dismounted because of their stupidity doing things like this? Oh right, it would be the (fill in the blank with whomever we want to blame).

Try reading the WHOLE post.

[BogeyBoy]

Originally Posted by cybrgeezer

Try reading the WHOLE post.

I read the whole post.

Because law enforcement does not study and enforce the law it's okay to break the law?

I think that on occasion many of us break a motor vehicle law; roll through a stop sign, speed, forget to signal, etc. My understanding of the topic here (and it's been brought up before) is the repeated disregard for stop signs and other laws by cyclists.

Bottom line: There simply aren't enough law enforcement personnel to catch and ticket everyone breaking a law. If someone rolls through a stop sign it doesn't get a lot of attention but when 20 bicycle ride through a stop sign at full speed it catches the eye. And unfortunately the odds are in the cyclist favor - there won't be any law enforcement there to stop them.

[Matt and Gail]

Originally Posted by cybrgeezer

Try reading the WHOLE post.

I have, and all the threads too! It DOES NOT make sense (even that sentence) to blame the police. IMHO it's just not right.

[gatherer47]

Blaming the police is about the stupidest post I've ever seen.And yes,I read the whole post.

[starflyte1]

Several years ago, in Naples, Florida, a large group of cyclists would regularly travel through an area similar to TV, and would not stop at stop signs. The police got so many calls that they arrested something like 32 in one day for not stopping. Don't remember if it helped in the long run.

While the police are out there ticketing cyclists for not stopping at stop signs maybe they could take a look at the drivers who refuse to give the 3 feet to cyclists that's required by law.I can't tell you how many times I'll be riding down Buena Vista when a car ,truck ,motorcycle or street legal golf car nearly knocks me off my bike when all they have to do is move over to the left a few feet.It's two lanes going in each direction but some folks don't seem to know the outer lane exists.These incidents seem to take place more& more so please folks I don't care if you're taking a right off the upcoming roundabout or going over the bridge near lake sumter on Morse I have every right to be on the road with you.If there is a car passing you on your left and I'm in the right lane or just off the shoulder slow down & wait for a safe time to pass me...Thanks!!

[Villages PL]

When I'm driving my car, I don't encounter cyclists that often but when I do, they seem to be obeying the law. The thing that gets me is when I'm walking on the sidewalk and one comes up behind me, riding on the sidewalk. I don't hear them until they are right up behind me and it startles me. It doesn't seem too safe either. Is it legal for them to be on the sidewalk?

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[BentBoy]

Originally Posted by gongoozler

There are bad drivers (fail to give 3 feet to a cyclist), there are bad cyclists (not following the rules of the road) and there are bad golf cart drivers (exceeding speed limits and driving on the path like they are only golf cart paths) . . . that's all there is to it. Just take one violation, I cannot tell you how many cart drivers and cyclist I've seen in the Villages with headsets on . . . this is against the law in Flroida and the ticket is more than $100 but many are doing it.
So how do we stop all these violators? More police? Is that what we really want . . . more taxes and a bigger police state? All I know is that you have to drive defensively as there are a lot of idiots and people who just do not pay attention out there!

What police? I have been here for over a year and probably have only seen police pull over a couple of vehicles? I think it has something to do with living here. No one wants to be hassled. After all, this is fantasy land. Nothing bad should happen here.

[Cantwaittoarrive]

Sure I have seen some cyclist breaking the law but I also have seen cars, carts, walkers and joggers breaking the law. For me bottom line drive, ride, walk or run as if you are the only one in the world that doesn't break the law, assume everyone else will cut you off or go to slow or make unexpected turns and you should be ok.

[GaryW]

Originally Posted by Cantwaittoarrive

Sure I have seen some cyclist breaking the law but I also have seen cars, carts, walkers and joggers breaking the law. For me bottom line drive, ride, walk or run as if you are the only one in the world that doesn't break the law, assume everyone else will cut you off or go to slow or make unexpected turns and you should be ok.

Outstanding!!

[Chazz]

Originally Posted by Cantwaittoarrive

Sure I have seen some cyclist breaking the law but I also have seen cars, carts, walkers and joggers breaking the law. For me bottom line drive, ride, walk or run as if you are the only one in the world that doesn't break the law, assume everyone else will cut you off or go to slow or make unexpected turns and you should be ok.

You are so right! I try to practice that principle when on my trike or in my car. However, I need to better handle my level of aggravation when my assumptions turn out to be true.