[debem1@aol.com]

Originally Posted by Rainger99

I heard on the radio that Florida may abolish special districts. Apparently Disney is a special district.

As a newcomer, I am still confused by the political districts in Florida. Would that impact us?

It's NOT a special District for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Goldwingnut]

Getting back to the OP's post, I received the following information from the District Staff this morning:

Governor DeSantis announced in a news conference that in addition to a new congressional map they're voting on this week in a special session, lawmakers "will be considering termination of all independent special districts that were enacted in Florida prior to 1968, and that includes the Reedy Creek Improvement District."

If passed, this dissolution would only affect Chapter 189 special districts enacted in Florida prior to 1968.

First established in the early 1990s, The Villages Community Development Districts were, and will continue to be, formed under Chapter 190 Florida Statutes, and therefore this has no impact on our community.

In fact, there are only five special districts that could potentially be dissolved. They are:

Hamilton County Development Authority
East Point Water and Sewer District (Franklin County)
Bradford County Development Authority
Reedy Creek Improvement District aka Disney (Orange and Osceola Counties)
Sunshine Drainage District (Broward County)
Please visit Florida Governor Ron DeSantis for additional information.

Bottom line is that it does not affect The Villages or the hundreds of other CDDs in the state of Florida.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

Maybe not good news for TV.

The Village seems like a special district, so to be FAIR, if Disney World needs to lose its special status then maybe The Village needs to also lose its special status. I would not mind a return to a city type of government - it could (?) be an improvement. I am not an expert on Florida law.........just a layman stating an opinion.
.........But, it seems intuitively obvious that the newest law to punish Disney World will have UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES that will punish some county residents to the tune of an extra tax of over $500. It will discourage future paying Disney customers from coming to Florida (it is like a negative PR program) It will label Florida as a NOT-SO-FRIENDLY-TO-BUSINESS STATE.
........This seems like a "cut off the old nose to spite the face" type of situation. All the parties in this change situation will likely end up looking Bad...... Florida, Disney, and proponents of this new law. Not a win-win, but a lose-lose-lose!

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

You're right... Until this started happening...

Attention Required! | Cloudflare

And this...

Disney Executives Admit: Of Course We're Grooming Your Children

Perhaps we need to define what the word "indoctrination" means or what Disney is being accused of indoctrinating 5 year olds into. Plus, a lot of it depends on how one chooses to hear what is being said.

In those videos I heard people expressing happiness that Disney was allowing their content to reflect the real world. I didn't hear anyone say that they had a great plan to turn 5 year olds gay or convince them to be transgender - that is what the word "indoctrination" means to me. I heard them say they were grateful at the thought that characters in future shows would be more representative of the population.

Like it or not, when you get outside the bubble there are many LGBTQIA+ and BIPOC people (half the population?). Hoping for more Disney characters that look like your LGBTQIA+ or BIPOC children or grandchildren or grandchildren's friends is not indoctrination to me.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

They could, I expect they don’t. It would be very expensive.

As I said. I don’t expect anything will come of it. It seems nothing ever comes of anything any more

I can see this BLOWING UP into a big deal. I talked about unintended consequences. I can imagine that this might keep law firms in work for years - filing lawsuits and defending against said lawsuits. Disney might sue Florida for "REPUTATIONAL DAMAGES". An award in a case like that would be MASSIVE! Disney's employees might be laid off due to this new law and they might bring a class-action lawsuit.
.........There is going to be LARGE legal ramifications!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by MartinSE

You are right, I would much rather pay income tax than let Disney steal that. Geez

Ask yourself, "who has the better reputation to protect, Disney or the State of Florida?"

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by irishwonone

Great post and right on the money. Amazing not another post here even mentions the innocent 5 year olds that this battle is about nor their parents. Free speech, taxes, money all baloney. Take that woke baloney back to Cali.

I agree that sex teachings at that young age should be done at home and then at the 4th grade level can be introduced. BUT, I do not believe there should be limitations within this teaching..such as if its between heterosexual or homosexual. At the young age it should be 2 people in love...blah,blah.
Let's stop planting homophobic seeds here. It really seems that the ones fighting this so much are homophobic. Seriously, two loving same sex parents raising a child lovingly is so much better than a child being raised in a loveless home with 2 hetero, nonstop fighting parents.
Maybe Disney sees this and embraces it and the stupid one down their pushing his own agenda should butt out.

[Keefelane66]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I can see this BLOWING UP into a big deal. I talked about unintended consequences. I can imagine that this might keep law firms in work for years - filing lawsuits and defending against said lawsuits. Disney might sue Florida for "REPUTATIONAL DAMAGES". An award in a case like that would be MASSIVE! Disney's employees might be laid off due to this new law and they might bring a class-action lawsuit.
.........There is going to be LARGE legal ramifications!

Don’t worry the state tax payers will protect our Governor

[Keefelane66]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

Getting back to the OP's post, I received the following information from the District Staff this morning:

Governor DeSantis announced in a news conference that in addition to a new congressional map they're voting on this week in a special session, lawmakers "will be considering termination of all independent special districts that were enacted in Florida prior to 1968, and that includes the Reedy Creek Improvement District."

If passed, this dissolution would only affect Chapter 189 special districts enacted in Florida prior to 1968.

First established in the early 1990s, The Villages Community Development Districts were, and will continue to be, formed under Chapter 190 Florida Statutes, and therefore this has no impact on our community.

In fact, there are only five special districts that could potentially be dissolved. They are:

Hamilton County Development Authority
East Point Water and Sewer District (Franklin County)
Bradford County Development Authority
Reedy Creek Improvement District aka Disney (Orange and Osceola Counties)
Sunshine Drainage District (Broward County)
Please visit Florida Governor Ron DeSantis for additional information.

Bottom line is that it does not affect The Villages or the hundreds of other CDDs in the state of Florida.

Don’t be naïve if it can happen to one it can happen to any. It was a vindictive act against free speech!

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Perhaps we need to define what the word "indoctrination" means or what Disney is being accused of indoctrinating 5 year olds into. Plus, a lot of it depends on how one chooses to hear what is being said.

In those videos I heard people expressing happiness that Disney was allowing their content to reflect the real world. I didn't hear anyone say that they had a great plan to turn 5 year olds gay or convince them to be transgender - that is what the word "indoctrination" means to me. I heard them say they were grateful at the thought that characters in future shows would be more representative of the population.

Like it or not, when you get outside the bubble there are many LGBTQIA+ and BIPOC people (half the population?). Hoping for more Disney characters that look like your LGBTQIA+ or BIPOC children or grandchildren or grandchildren's friends is not indoctrination to me.

Half??????? Get real.

[daniel200]

Per this news story (and others), the general obligation bonds issued by the special district where Disney operates will be transferred to Orange county taxpayers if the bill becomes law. This is not Disney debt, but rather debt issued by the special district (Reedy Creek) where Disney operates. There is various estimates of the amount .. but it ranges from $2,500 to $4,000 per tax payer.

Reedy Creek has said they will continue to make bond payments … but if their special district is dissolved as per the bill, they will have no rights to collect monies and the bonds would be transferred to tax payers per the bill.

Google “Reedy Creek bonds” .. lots of news


Disney’s debt is about to be Central Florida taxpayers’ problem – WFTV

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

BS

Let's be honest here.

They were not "supporting thousands of employees and millions of guests" They were making a political statement and cow-towing to a very small minority of ________(fill in the blank) that were opposed to a law that prohibited teaching CHILDREN in K-3 (5-8 year olds) about certain sexual behaviors. Of course, those that engage in those behaviors want them to be accepted as normal even by 5 year olds.

So like the spokesperson for the governor's office stated this morning--"If you poke the hornet's nest. sometimes you get stung"

Disney, as a corporation with a legacy of good reputation, has every right to speak out against the "don't say gay law" which may influence many other states to pass a similar law. It is a law about a problem that does NOT EXIST. It's just an exploitation of a conspiracy theory designed to divide America and cause chaos in society and specifically in education - which is fragile now after the Pandemic and many teachers are quitting rather than being sued for their homes and savings.
........It appears that teachers are now the MINORITY OF CHOICE to be dehumanized. First, it was the Muslims, then the long convoy of illegal aliens coming to rape all the US women. Then the small % of Police outlaws decided it was time to start a race war. Now today, the HATERS are concentrating their fire and ire on the defenseless classroom teacher - making laws to prevent problems that don't exist. The next conspiracy theory of the future will be that the teachers are raping their students. Sound unbelievable......remember when the man took a gun to a pizza place that he believed was a center for selling and (eating) children. Where did he get that idea? From some dark HOLE of conspiracy. And ask who originally produces those INSANE ideas
.......Russian history shows that Putin came to power by accusing a Russian official of child abuse. The man was placed in prison with a minimal trial. Putin has used that tactic of claiming child abuse to put away at least 3 of his enemies during his 22-year Dictatorship. Strange how these pediatric abuse scandals in Russia might be migrating to the US?

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

Disney, as a corporation with a legacy of good reputation, has every right to speak out against the "don't say gay law" which may influence many other states to pass a similar law. It is a law about a problem that does NOT EXIST. It's just an exploitation of a conspiracy theory designed to divide America and cause chaos in society and specifically in education - which is fragile now after the Pandemic and many teachers are quitting rather than being sued for their homes and savings.
........It appears that teachers are now the MINORITY OF CHOICE to be dehumanized. First, it was the Muslims, then the long convoy of illegal aliens coming to rape all the US women. Then the small % of Police outlaws decided it was time to start a race war. Now today, the HATERS are concentrating their fire and ire on the defenseless classroom teacher - making laws to prevent problems that don't exist. The next conspiracy theory of the future will be that the teachers are raping their students. Sound unbelievable......remember when the man took a gun to a pizza place that he believed was a center for selling and (eating) children. Where did he get that idea? From some dark HOLE of conspiracy. And ask who originally produces those INSANE ideas
.......Russian history shows that Putin came to power by accusing a Russian official of child abuse. The man was placed in prison with a minimal trial. Putin has used that tactic of claiming child abuse to put away at least 3 of his enemies during his 22-year Dictatorship. Strange how these pediatric abuse scandals in Russia might be migrating to the US?

Blah, blah, blah.........

All I know is I don't want some teacher, or school board policy to be teaching my 5 year old granddaughter about hetero or homo sex, nor transgenders, or anything in between, and neither do her parents. And Disney has no right to speak out on an issue if it could possibly negatively impact their profits---it would be a breach of fiduciary responsibility by their board of directors.

[jdulej]

Originally Posted by Keefelane66

Don’t be naïve if it can happen to one it can happen to any. It was a vindictive act against free speech!

You are 100% correct. Some day the pendulum will swing back the other way here and then watch out TV. This sets a scary precedent.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Babubhat

Disney was happy to move California jobs to Lake Nona. Chapek has blundered too many times to keep his job. Don’t know why corporations have to comment on issues that don’t concern them

The reason that some Corporations comment on issues is that some have the GUTS to recognize a problem!