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Old 04-22-2022, 09:05 AM
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So, does this mean there won’t be a bunch of screaming runny nosed kids wearing Mickey Mouse ears kicking the back of my seat on flights to/from Orlando??????
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And you would be WRONG

Disney’s mission statement is “to entertain, inform and inspire people around the globe through the power of unparalleled storytelling, reflecting the iconic brands, creative minds and innovative technologies that make ours the world’s premier entertainment company.

There is no mention of obligation to speak out or venture into a political stance favoring a small minority that objects to a law that an overwhelming majority of people favor. It is NOT a free speech issue, it is NOT a democratic issue, it is simply the scope of what a publicly held corporation should and should not be involved in.
Let's notice what it does NOT say:
It doesn't say "..through the power of unparalleled, heavily filtered storytelling, reflecting white-owned brands and the creative conservative minds of only straight white men and women who identify as such, and will never allow their customers to see any other possible variety of human on their property or in their products, thus ensuring that those minority customers are always reminded that their demographic will never be represented, because it's shameful and should be hidden and eliminated from view."
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I think you would find many parents disagree with that characterization
Those parents are bigots.
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Old 04-22-2022, 09:14 AM
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Yea this is the problem, just because someone has a lot of pocket change they can’t run the country. I bet Walt Disney is trying to bust out of his coffin. Disneyland & their present CEO are way out of hand, they’re not little gods who can dictate or control the U.S. & people’s children! This is socialist or the way Communism control their people. I hope all parents stand up to Disney! God Bless America!
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Yes, long overdue. The indoctrination of our youth started 30-40 years ago in our universities and has now filtered down to the grade school level. Finally a state government got fed up and said enough is enough
Lol.....alittle homophobic????
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Let's notice what it does NOT say:
It doesn't say "..through the power of unparalleled, heavily filtered storytelling, reflecting white-owned brands and the creative conservative minds of only straight white men and women who identify as such, and will never allow their customers to see any other possible variety of human on their property or in their products, thus ensuring that those minority customers are always reminded that their demographic will never be represented, because it's shameful and should be hidden and eliminated from view."
Seriously??? No, not even you could be serious about that. It has nothing to do with minorities or demographics or Disney's attractions or products depicting all races or sexual orientations. It has to do with a publicly traded international company with a fiduciary obligation to its shareholders going out of its way to blabber on about a law that affects only teaching in grades K-3 in the state of Florida, which can only have a negative impact on its reputation as a family company and its bottom line.
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Old 04-22-2022, 09:33 AM
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Those parents are bigots.
Maybe. But they are almost guaranteed to be among the overwhelming majority of parents who don't want sexual orientation taught in school to their 5 year old.
There's a big difference between objecting to or discriminating against a specific sexual orientation (or race, or religion) and objecting to that sexual orientation being taught to 5 year olds.
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Seriously??? No, not even you could be serious about that. It has nothing to do with minorities or demographics or Disney's attractions or products depicting all races or sexual orientations. It has to do with a publicly traded international company with a fiduciary obligation to its shareholders going out of its way to blabber on about a law that affects only teaching in grades K-3 in the state of Florida, which can only have a negative impact on its reputation as a family company and its bottom line.
If it's that big of a deal to the shareholders, then the shareholders are free to opt out, or hold a special meeting and take a vote. There's no reason the Florida legislature needs to impose legislation that affects only 5 out of over 1400 special districts in the state, to halt something that the shareholders care about. Especially since most of the shareholders of Disney aren't Florida residents.

This isn't about shareholders. It's about political statements that some folks in the Florida government don't like.
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Old 04-22-2022, 09:37 AM
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Oh please, get in line, this poster you are speaking of(which btw is commenting under 2 diff names) is the most condensing, self righteous, rudest person, and I'm trying to be kind. He says he holds a degree or two....obviously another lie, and I say this bc he is so degrading and dismissive of others. He then ends his strong hold rants with his stupid emojis laughing. Trust me, he'll come back with a snarky comment to this, as he did to yours..
Oh well..

But I do enjoy your openmindedness.
Thank you, I love you too. Please, let me know the other name I post under so I can see who you are confusing me with. Just seems like there are those that define "snarky" as disagreeing with a position, even when they are dead wrong.
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If it's that big of a deal to the shareholders, then the shareholders are free to opt out, or hold a special meeting and take a vote. There's no reason the Florida legislature needs to impose legislation that affects only 5 out of over 1400 special districts in the state, to halt something that the shareholders care about. Especially since most of the shareholders of Disney aren't Florida residents.

This isn't about shareholders. It's about political statements that some folks in the Florida government don't like.
I've already stated twice that I disagree with killing the Reedy Creek special district---seems like overkill. But it is about shareholders and the fiduciary responsibility of the Disney board of directors, and the concept that Disney should not be making political statements in the first place. Also, don't forget that this is a government of the people, by the people and for the people-----and through their elected representatives the people of Florida have spoken. It's simply that certain groups don't like what they said. Who was it that famously quipped "elections have consequences"? Oh, yeah, can't mention it. But Disney's "freedom of speech" has consequences as well, just in this case I agree with you the retribution was too Draconian.
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Old 04-22-2022, 09:45 AM
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In my opinion, this is not about LGBTQ, or Gay lives, or any other different sexual orientation ........... which, by the way, has been happening for years in the dark, never before legalized. It's about punishing a company for speaking out against the legislators.

To those who think you can keep your children and grandchildren safe from all the various forms of sexual orientation, I got news for you, anything you make dirty and dark people really really want to find out about it. Children are not born with hatred it is learned at the knee.

My last minute thought ... What about the children who do have two Dads, legally. I have a six year old granddaughter who has two legal Dads, if the teacher started talking about two Dads from a sexual point of view, she would have no idea what they are talking about.

Common sense, that is what we need a hell of a lot more of in this world. Common Sense.
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I think you would find many parents disagree with that characterization
Which
That kids need love and acceptance.
That people are not taught to be gay
Or that if a child asks a question, in school or at home, it's addressed at that child's age appropriateness.
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In my opinion, this is not about LGBTQ, or Gay lives, or any other different sexual orientation ........... which, by the way, has been happening for years in the dark, never before legalized. It's about punishing a company for speaking out against the legislators.

To those who think you can keep your children and grandchildren safe from all the various forms of sexual orientation, I got news for you, anything you make dirty and dark people really really want to find out about it. Children are not born with hatred it is learned at the knee.
Certainly agree-----but not in kindergarten.
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So, does this mean there won’t be a bunch of screaming runny nosed kids wearing Mickey Mouse ears kicking the back of my seat on flights to/from Orlando??????
You have posted several times that you always drive back and forth because of the dog. I fly a lot, sometimes 5 or 6 hour flights and I have never seen that behavior. Do Mickey Mouse ears really bother you that much.?

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Certainly agree-----but not in kindergarten.
You really cannot possibly think a kindergarten child is in the least bit interested in sexual orientation. They are more interested in playing and seeing what the kid next door has in their lunch box.

I can tell you that at that age my children had no idea what the word SEX meant.

You are making a mountain out of a molehill. Play your golf and enjoy your old age, life will go on one way or the other whether you like it or not. All the laws in the land will make no difference.
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