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Elaine, if your grandkids are under 10, they're free, too.

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I understand that if they are under 10 is free. I have 4 Grandsons from 10 to 15 so they would not be free. Of course I would only be taking 2 at a time. All 4 would be a bit too much :o I just don't understand just beacuse they live within 50 miles its free. And for grandkinds that woould just be using the facilities for maybe 2 weeks to a month tops have to pay. It just doesn't seem fair to those that get to spend a short time with their grandkids

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Ok I promised myself that I would not get on this thread again...but now I am SO CONFUSED!!!! Since when does anyone pay for a guest pass???????

We have never paid for a guest pass....did I miss something?

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Cassie, renters have the option of paying $50.00 for a guest pass to use the amenities.

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Cassie, a lot of times the pass fee is included in the rental fee. You just have to go pick it up (and sometimes not even that if the homeowner has a registered agent with TV).

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Oh I see....so renters pay $50 per person per visit to use the amenities?????

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Yup. Even long-term renters like me have to pay this fee. I don't mind -- would much rather pay $50 once a year than have to be escorted everywhere by another TVer.

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Red....is it $50 per year per person.....for a renter....then if you bring in a few guests...say 3 grandchildren....you pay $50 for each grandchild e very time you have them visit?

So if they visit 3 seperate weeks a year you pay $150 per year per grandchild?

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Whoa folks...I think things have gotten confused.

Any village resident can get FREE guest passes for their visitors. The guest has to live outside the 50 mile radius. The guest is entitled to use the amenities (adult pool (if old enough), family pool, pickleball, tennis) but not the sports pools. The guest is entitled to play executive golf but must pay the appropriate guest green fee or trail fee. Essentially, they pay guest rates for things that have fees attached and are excluded from programs that are resident only. Guest passes are issued for up to 30 days.

A renter can "purchase" the resident ID from the owner of home (by going through the Villages process whereby the owner turns in his ID cards). There is a $50 fee for the owner to transfer his resident privileges to his renter(s). One $50 for all the renters. I am not sure of the time limit on this (e.g. you have a long term, permanent renter who stays in the house for 3 years...do they pay $50 each year or just once). This transfer now gives the renter ALL resident privileges.....no exec green fees; resident fees for all other activities, use of sports pools, entry to Katie Belles, etc. For someone who is renting in TV for a month or longer, this $50 investment will probably make sense.

Please don't confuse guest passes with resident transfer privileges.

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The Focus Group was scheduled to meet again last night (8/28). Did anyone on either side of this question attend and/or provide information?

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How and where do we find out about the meetings....would have gone....depnding on the time.

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Thank you Muncle!!!!

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All this talk about passes is driving me nuts. Why did the developer invent this problem in the first place? It just confuses the issue. If a resident of TV wants to have a guest, such as the lady who has a boyfriend who lives outside TV, accompany her to an area that requires I.D., then he goes there with her and not alone. Likewise, any other person, child or adult, who wants to use any of the facilities must be accompanied by a resident with proper I.D., no exceptions. The rule should be that [b]EACH[/b resident is permitted to have up to four guests accompany them to a restricted area. When an enforcement agent asks for I.D's, the resident covers them with his/her I.D. card. [b]NO ONE[b] should be using any of the amenities in TV unless they are accompanied by a resident. The resident who wants to play golf with his son-in-law will have to be present. The son-in-law should not be playing alone. In the case of Bison Valley and other outside Villages properties, the developer should issue them special I.D. cards for a fee, and the money should be sent to the proper amenities fund.

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As I understood it the one year tri-county family ID/pass did not include pools so someone needs to get in touch with Mr.Rohan. I would also contact VHA and POA to find out what is going on. I know the rules are posted somewhere. I am almost sure that the one year thing does NOT include the pools and wish someone would verify this. I plan to call Mr. Rohan's office on Monday and will check back here.

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Grumpy...so...with a 4 guest rule how do I choose who I can take with me and who I can't when my sister and family come to visit? Do I leave 2 at home and take the rest? That is absolutely the silliest recommendation I've ever heard!

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As I noted in another forum, I have a copy of the rules as I know someone in the "Focus group". These rules are also posted in the general information booklet that is given to new residents. The in-area ID guest cards have access to everything that the general guest ID cards do. The only difference is that with the in-area guest ID cards, the resident MUST accompany these guests to all facilities.

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When I moved here in 2000, you couldn't use our facilities if you lived in the tri-county area. Folks keep pushing what ifs. My bother lives close by, my second cousin removed twice lives close by. Soon it will be no longer a retirement comunity, but a resort for all family member within the area. AS we all know it's getting crazy around here with all the traffic from outside, difficulty getting tee-times ,,etc. Let's go back to when The Villages were for retirees and the whiners were still in the north. !!!!!!

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You can get "family reunion" passes for a large related group.

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Honestly, I don't have to worry about 6 people coming to visit but I could see where some people would. What if a daughter/son and spouse had 3 or more children? That would be 5 or more visitors and make it a little difficult to pick and choose who could enjoy activities and who would have to be left behind.

I don't claim to have any answers or suggestions but there must be a better solution to this problem.

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I agree...but until it changes or even if it doesn't....there are ways to follow the rules and still get what you want/need. You can put 4 guests under your name....hubby or friend can put 4 under theirs....each friend you have here on TOTV's can put 4 people on.....atleast I would bright....send me the names and the dates and I will get the cards! ;)

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Cassie

You are too sweet. But...I really don't have to worry and don't foresee ever needing to work around the system. I was only painting a scenario.

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Brightspot: I'm sorry you felt that my suggestion was so silly. I should not have assumed that you live alone. I thought 4 guests for each member of you household would be sufficient. That would provide for 8 guests for two residents. :dontknow:

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I get a chuckle out of reading these threads. There is always someone who knows a little more or less than the previous poster. If you REALLY are interested in this subject and want to get your point across, attend the next meeting of the Guest ID Focus Group at the Savannah Center at 2PM on Thursday, 11 Sep. I personally think that the 365 day pass should be abolished. Period. I can just about afford to pay my way here in the Villages as it is. I can not afford to provide services for families who want to use this place as their playground for nonresidents.

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I will try to make it...anyone else want to go with me....

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Oh Grumpy

You missed my point completely. I was only thinking about residents who might have a married child with more than 2 children. You know, that is possible, right?

However, I agree that if there is a twosome retired Villages couple then 8 passes would, in most cases, suffice.

Smile Grumpy... ;D...life is too short!

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I for the sake of things can believe all the hype over Bison Valley. Me my wife and 2 kids live there. we both work for The Villages. i do not getting to use any of The Villages amenities. And no we are not required to pay the fees either. Yes we can ride on the cart path that exits out of Bison Valley and use the other ones. I dont complain when i see nothing but Golf Carts from The Villages up and down our roads, or Villagers riding thru our nieghborhood all the time. I went to my uncovered mailbox to get my mail and caught a couple letting their dog poo by our mailbox and walking off not picking it up. i followed them down 101 and stopped them as they were going into summerhill. asked them to pick up the poo. Bottom line we get along, most of The Villagers that come into Bison Valley are very friendly and stop and talk. We love The Villages and enjoy this area. P.S.

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G~~ welcome to TOTV and welcome to The villages...I am glad you are here! this is a wonderful place to live and Bison valley is beautiful! We almost bought in there....you will here in some of my posts that I have a child as well...we just happen to have set up different circumstances....

Since you don't have a pool....we have one in our apartment complex that I am sure I can let your family use. They really don't mind as long as you have a gate key....and are on your best behavior...LOL

I love that employees of TV's can live and work in the most beautiful place in the world!

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Thanks Cassie325.. it is a beautiful place here. Most people dont realized just how good they got it here as compared to alot of other places. I love it in Bison Valley, nice to be close to work and the kids go to the Charter School. i have talke to most in BV, they dont use The Villages amenities whatsoever. other than the golf cart paths. But most who live in BV are employed with The Villages directly, or Villages residents that moved there. As the Saying goes, "Great day to be in The Villages".

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Well I would love to come meet everyone one of these days...if you don't mind driving through the neighborhood! I think it is great that you are here. I would have bought in bison Valley in a second if they told us there would be some amenities!

I am envious of your ability to send your kids to the charter school...it is a wonderful AMENITY for employees of TV's...

I still work but work from home for another company. There really aren't any jobs here that would pay as much...unless of course I get some sort of new certification or degree....and well school would get in the way of my social life!!

How old are your kids? My daughter is 11...either they can be friends or in a year or so she can babysit!!

It is and always is a beautiful day in TV's. PS....I am only in my 30's...and I love it as much as you do it seems! Personally I think it is heaven on earth...and why wouldn't everyone want to live here!!! I am glad we are able to....

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I am not a member of the Focus Group but I did attend the meeting on Thursday. The first thing I was told was that, because I did not attend the first two meetings, I would not be entitled to speak on their subject of the in-area guest pass (subject of the day for this meeting). I had to sit on the side of the room and keep my mouth shut. It very quickly became obvious why the group voted to not allow any new participants. If you think confusion reigns on this thread, you should have attended the meeting as I did. There are members who have multiple in-area guest passes and want to keep them no matter what happens. There are people who have never once used an in-area guest pass and think that they are being robbed each month when they pay their amenity fee. Mr Rohan tried to keep the peace and keep people on the subject of the day but he had one heck of a difficult time. One gentleman almost got into a fight with another man sitting at a table behind him. Typical TOTV tempers. Forget all about what the rules are right now because the ultimate recommendation of the group is going to be made to the next higher committee and the developer that the in-area guest pass should be shortened to 30 USES or 30 days per year. Just about everyone on the group agreed that the passes would continue to be issued to only children, grandchildren, greatgrandchildren, and spouses. No non relatives. These meetings will be going on for months as they are going to tackle one subject at a time concerning guest passes. It was difficult not being able to express my personal opinions on the subject of in-area guest passes but I did find it interesting to observe the discussion (fight). One thing is very obvious. There are people to presently take advantage of the in-area guest pass formula and they want to continue to take advantage of the pass. Some feel it is cheaper for their grown children to live outside TV and not have to pay the monthly amenity fees but still be able to use the pools, golf courses, and other recreation facilities. The stipulation is that the resident of TV must accompany the guest at all times. So one of the guests can't go to play golf while the other guests go to a family pool with the resident. The guest must be with the resident. That requirement will probably never be changed.

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Cliff....thank you for posting this information...I was hoping someone was able to attend. I am glad I didn't go if no one else was allowed to speak! Thanks so much!

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Forget all about what the rules are right now because the ultimate recommendation of the group is going to be made to the next higher committee and the developer that the in-area guest pass should be shortened to 30 USES or 30 days per year.
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This sounds pretty good. What do you think? Am I missing something here?

Not only do Bison Valley people use our pools, they also have golf cart access to the villages. They can use their golf carts to run around the villages using golf cart paths, many of which are maintained using our amenity fees. Now people are using golf carts to access the Villages from Parkwood, which is just down the street from Bison Valley. Does know the regulations concerning this?
:rant-rave::rant-rave::rant-rave:

This I can tell you from living there. There are a few people in Bison that have Golf Carts, and yes there is a Cart access for us. Originally built for families of Village employees. The only people that go to the pools in TV from Bison Valley are those that have Family that are Village residents. There are a few of those that have parents that have been living in The Villages for a long time. That is about it. Most of us are tired of hearing that we all use your stuff, grow up. Educate yourself as to who does what.

And yes Parkwood residents do drive their carts down cr-101 on the sidewalk and thru our place. we have complained to the HOA also on this with no luck. we dont like it either. We hate having them flying around our place also.

My family lives out of state. I always get them guest passes when they visit. If they lived near The Villages, I would hope they could visit all facilities as my guest. As long as a Villages resident must accompany their guest who lives near by, I see no harm.

Ok, let me wade in to this discussion.......
I find the last 2 lines of the above quote, totally wrong. A guest according to Webster, is "a person who receives hospitality of another person while visiting".
If family is "living" near TV and using OUR amenities that WE are paying for regularly as is implied that is WRONG! They are not "visiting". The intent is, as an example, my family lives in NJ, they stop by for a visit while in FL on a trip and I want to take my Dad and play some bocce, that is the intent. Not that they live near, pay nothing, and use facilities, REGUARDLESS if a TV Owner is with them or not. That according to Webster is "stealing, fraud, etc." And yes there should be a limit and 30 days seems fair.
I am sorry if MHO offends anyone, but being military for 30+ years I follow rules to the reg and intent.
Ok, I am off my soap box now!

Army Guy

Ditto Army guy:agree:

Army Guy speaks for me also

So - it's fine to play bocce with your dad if he is visiting from New Jersey but not Ok if he is visiting from Leesburg.


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