[MDLNB]

Apparently, France is the sixth country in Europe to ban or restrict the use of Moderna vaccine.
I wonder if maybe we should be thinking twice before rushing to force this upon our children of school age. It seems to be a rare occurrence that someone incurs heart problems, but if it is also rare that the young die from Covid, maybe they should hold off until further study is done?


France advises against Moderna for under-30s over rare heart risk

[Two Bills]

France is just pi$$ed off their vaccine didn't work.
They will probably arrest some more British fishing boats to cheer themselves up!

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

France is just pi$$ed off their vaccine didn't work.
They will probably arrest some more British fishing boats to cheer themselves up!

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

Apparently, France is the sixth country in Europe to ban or restrict the use of Moderna vaccine.
I wonder if maybe we should be thinking twice before rushing to force this upon our children of school age. It seems to be a rare occurrence that someone incurs heart problems, but if it is also rare that the young die from Covid, maybe they should hold off until further study is done?


France advises against Moderna for under-30s over rare heart risk

Everything has risks and rewards. Perfection is perhaps the goal, what we demand but it does not exist.

I expect someone has researched how many people have been killed in car accidents or walking to get one two or three Covid shots.

Like many other things, in terms of reality the choice you make cannot be undone. I didn't take the shot and I died from covid-I DEMAND A DO OVER. Or, I took the shot and it killed me-I DEMAND A DO OVER.

We currently have four major covid shot manufacturers that I am aware of Pfizer, Moderna, Astro Zenica and Johnson and Johnson. The government is paying for it. No one is even asking about cost vs effectiveness. I may be wrong but I read somewhere that Pfizer is $20 a shot and Moderna is $21. I'm not sure perhaps it is the other way around my point is we do not know and no one seems to care. I've also read that Pfizer is owned by Germany, China and the United States. Moderna is American owned and Astro Zenica is English owned. First since they are all publicly traded what does this mean-beats me.

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by DAVES

I've also read that Pfizer is owned by Germany, China and the United States. Moderna is American owned and Astro Zenica is English owned. First since they are all publicly traded what does this mean-beats me.

Pfizer is an American Company. The BioNTech part of the Pfizer-BioNTech is German. Of course publicly traded companies can be own by almost anyone.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Caymus

Pfizer is an American Company. The BioNTech part of the Pfizer-BioNTech is German. Of course publicly traded companies can be own by almost anyone.

Yup it was founded in New York, by two German immigrants.

Meanwhile, France has not "banned" Moderna. It has advised against it for under 30 and instead recommends Pfizer's Comirnaty vaccine instead. It's still available for under 30, if people under 30 want it.

[PugMom]

my daughter is going to ireland this xmas-- the govt recommended she gets the pfizer as it is what their govt. requires. (???) is there really a difference? comments?

[Caymus]

Originally Posted by PugMom

my daughter is going to ireland this xmas-- the govt recommended she gets the pfizer as it is what their govt. requires. (???) is there really a difference? comments?

Last I read Ireland required a mRNA vaccine (No J&J or Astra). She better hurry if they require two jabs plus the wait period.

[Waltdisney4life]

I guess France did not get the big fat paycheck from Pharma by forcing untested drugs on five-year-olds.

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

Apparently, France is the sixth country in Europe to ban or restrict the use of Moderna vaccine.
I wonder if maybe we should be thinking twice before rushing to force this upon our children of school age. It seems to be a rare occurrence that someone incurs heart problems, but if it is also rare that the young die from Covid, maybe they should hold off until further study is done?


France advises against Moderna for under-30s over rare heart risk

Well stated
But unfortunately the US is to busy walking around with its eyes closed

This maybe why Pfizer has made a $7B profit over Covid shots…….

[Kgcetm]

Let them eat Covid-19.

[merrymini]

The numbers indicate that children are not effected the same way as adults and the shot for them is not called for. I would NEVER let my child get this shot. About 300 children have died of covid out of about 72 million in this country. Not numbers that indicate it is worth the risk.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by merrymini

The numbers indicate that children are not effected the same way as adults and the shot for them is not called for. I would NEVER let my child get this shot. About 300 children have died of covid out of about 72 million in this country. Not numbers that indicate it is worth the risk.

OK, your point is understood.

Question:

Just what is your education, expertise, and experience in virology and epidemiology to determine that "the shot for them is not called for" and that it is "NOT worth the risk'???

After all, the acknowledged experts (not Dr. Googles) have a consensus that is IS called for and IS worth the risk.

[Chi-Town]

It tickles me that France is used as a source. Usually not a good thing.

[MandoMan]

Originally Posted by MDLNB

Apparently, France is the sixth country in Europe to ban or restrict the use of Moderna vaccine.
I wonder if maybe we should be thinking twice before rushing to force this upon our children of school age. It seems to be a rare occurrence that someone incurs heart problems, but if it is also rare that the young die from Covid, maybe they should hold off until further study is done?


France advises against Moderna for under-30s over rare heart risk

No, don’t worry. I would encourage my own children to get it. The heart issues mentioned are MUCH more common and more deadly among those who get Covid but haven’t been vaccinated. Essentially, these “heart problems” are a bit like the arm soreness most of us got after being vaccinated. It’s temporary. It goes away. Vaccinated people aren’t dying of it.