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tophcfa 05-20-2022 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 2097396)
The following was received by me from the Village District manager Kenny Blocker ->
Thanks for posting. I would encourage everyone to read the last sentence on page two that runs into the beginning of page three. What a double standard! Apparent that language applies only to property transferred by the developer to the CDD’s, and not property retained. I will site Hacienda Hills as a blatant example of this double standard.

rustyp 05-21-2022 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2097428)
I'll enter it as Exhibit #1-5 in the official record.
Copied from the exhibit:

A portion of maintenance fees for residents in Districts 5-13, and commercial properties in Lake Sumter Landing and Brownwood Community Development District are applied to the District's Project Wide Fund
Allocation through the allocation methodology as agreed upon by all Districts that are party to the agreement. Exhibit (A) of the Project Wide Agreement outlines what is included within the purview of the Project Wide Advisory Committee aside from common areas and infrastructure, including the Brownwood Windmill and Water Tower located in the Brownwood Paddock Square.

Questions:
1 Is there a copy of exhibit A on line
2 Are the Sumter and Brownwood bandstands and drink shacks common areas per exhibit A

Jayhawk 05-21-2022 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Driver8 (Post 2092325)
They're concentrating on phasing out Spanish Springs now.
You must have a really good connection on the inside to know this. Or, are you just making it up to keep the pot stirred?

Stu from NYC 05-21-2022 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2097459)
You need to educate yourself on treated lumber of today, not 20 years ago. It's changed.

Bonifay, Belle, Evans bridges made out of treated wood are being replaced.....same vintage as Brownwood.
Read a very interesting article on the process and the different grades of pressure treated lumber. The application will determine the grade of lumber to be used. This grade is actually on the lumber itself.

My guess is someone managed to use the wrong grade for the application either by accident or perhaps to save a few bucks.

Jayhawk 05-21-2022 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2094208)
For some things the principle is more important than the dollars and do think this is one of the times.

For some people, the complaining is more important than the principle, and do think this is one of the times.

MartinSE 05-21-2022 07:40 AM
Wasn't there a song about this:

"you don't know what you got 'till it's gone, Tear down the tower and put up a parking lot"

Jayhawk 05-21-2022 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2094253)
Well if the sun had a living, breathing editor who was allowed to report the facts we would have an entirely different newspaper. Wonder what percentage of people reading the article believed what they were saying?
So why do people bother reading it? Some posters probably feel like paying for it to find topics to gripe about.

I would hate to only be happy when I was miserable.

dewilson58 05-21-2022 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2097591)
Read a very interesting article on the process and the different grades of pressure treated lumber.

My guess
"different Grades" = Splits & Knots.

"My guess" = :MOJE_whot:

dewilson58 05-21-2022 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MartinSE (Post 2097595)
Tear down the tower and put up a parking lot"
I heard they are going to install a diving platform & small pool.

Villagers can take a dive during band breaks.

:coolsmiley:

Stu from NYC 05-21-2022 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 2097602)
So why do people bother reading it? Some posters probably feel like paying for it to find topics to gripe about.

I would hate to only be happy when I was miserable.
I read it for info on what is going on entertainment wise and a few columns I enjoy. Do not have any expectations of impartiality.

Stu from NYC 05-21-2022 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2097605)
"different Grades" = Splits & Knots.

"My guess" = :MOJE_whot:
My opinion is someone used the incorrect grade of pressure treated lumber causing it to fail prematurely. Irrelevant now.

Topspinmo 05-21-2022 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 2092289)
Both are owned by the Brownwood CDD (a unit of local government not a private entity - aka the developer) and are included in Exhibit A of the Project Wide Agreement as are most of the public/entertainment areas in both LSL and BW. So, under the terms of the Project Wide Agreement the maintenance will fall to the Project Wide Fund. They are no different than many other structures and facilities in the community owned by all the CDDs that fall under the agreement, the key difference in my mind is that these are purely ornamental and have no functional need or requirement.

Knowing well the current PWF budget and having seen the proposed budget that is still being worked for next fiscal year I'm still on the fence with this "emergency?" budget item. How did they get in this condition so fast? Why are we only just now seeing the problem? How does a real windmill last decades on a farm but just 10 years in the town square? What will be lost if both are just raised and not rebuilt? How many residents have ever noticed they even existed? What are the legal responsibilities for the Project Wide Agreement to keep/replace the feature? These and many more unanswered questions need to be answered.

Then the CDD can elect to not replace it if the own it.

Topspinmo 05-21-2022 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2097607)
I heard they are going to install a diving platform & small pool.

Villagers can take a dive during band breaks.

:coolsmiley:

I heard you will be first to dive in before the tank filled….:)

Topspinmo 05-21-2022 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2097640)
My opinion is someone used the incorrect grade of pressure treated lumber causing it to fail prematurely. Irrelevant now.
My opinion the didn’t use pressure treated lumber.

Papa_lecki 05-21-2022 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2097607)
I heard they are going to install a diving platform & small pool.

Villagers can take a dive during band breaks.

:coolsmiley:
I heard it’s being built next to the new Costco.


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