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stone8735 05-05-2022 06:45 AM

Brownwood Teardown
 
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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2092159)
its going to cost us .... $225k to tear down and replace the water tower and windmill in brownwood. the wood is all rotten. just tear it down . somebodys brother inlaw is making a lot of money.

We have a multimillion dollar woodshop. Let's have those guys do all the work

Nucky 05-05-2022 06:47 AM

Wow, just Wow! Enjoy your retirement. Go do something useful with your time. Thankfully they caught it before someone got hurt. Not many things have a ten year warranty. Repairing stuff around here is the reason it’s still beautiful after all these years.

Driver8 05-05-2022 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2092191)
For someone who lived through the Big Dig in Boston, things do add up.

Of course if they just take them down the next post will be, look what else the Morse family took away from us, I can see the end of Brownwood coming…

$225,000 is not much in this day and age and things need to be maintained or replaced as needed.

They're concentrating on phasing out Spanish Springs now. I don't see Brownwood going anywhere anytime soon.

Worldseries27 05-05-2022 06:52 AM

Top gun
 
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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2092159)
its going to cost us .... $225k to tear down and replace the water tower and windmill in brownwood. The wood is all rotten. Just tear it down . Somebodys brother inlaw is making a lot of money.

we need some global hawk and predators to buzz that tower so we can see what's going on.

Gunny2403 05-05-2022 06:53 AM

It’s a reasonable price for a landmark feature. Lighten up.

airstreamingypsy 05-05-2022 07:03 AM

You can build a three bedroom house for $225,000.00, how can a windmill and water tower base cost that much?

Ski Bum 05-05-2022 07:05 AM

Well, since this is the adult Disneyland... Tear it down, put in a Tower of Doom ride. Sell tickets. Problem solved.

spd2918 05-05-2022 07:12 AM

I encourage all the chronic complainers to sell their "shoddily built" homes immediately. Since people want to move here you will make a huge profit (that evil thing the developer seeks).

Risk all your money, start your own village, and be happy. You are obviously much smarter than the developer. But you might find people will bitch and complain about your every move.

(Sorry for being so salty... I've been sick for a week)

Bogie Shooter 05-05-2022 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Lindaws (Post 2092310)
Monthly amen. fees will go up. Residents are also responsible for all these
bridges.

Not really.

sbb1256 05-05-2022 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 2092289)
Both are owned by the Brownwood CDD (a unit of local government not a private entity - aka the developer) and are included in Exhibit A of the Project Wide Agreement as are most of the public/entertainment areas in both LSL and BW. So, under the terms of the Project Wide Agreement the maintenance will fall to the Project Wide Fund. They are no different than many other structures and facilities in the community owned by all the CDDs that fall under the agreement, the key difference in my mind is that these are purely ornamental and have no functional need or requirement.

Knowing well the current PWF budget and having seen the proposed budget that is still being worked for next fiscal year I'm still on the fence with this "emergency?" budget item. How did they get in this condition so fast? Why are we only just now seeing the problem? How does a real windmill last decades on a farm but just 10 years in the town square? What will be lost if both are just raised and not rebuilt? How many residents have ever noticed they even existed? What are the legal responsibilities for the Project Wide Agreement to keep/replace the feature? These and many more unanswered questions need to be answered.

Don, thanks for your knowledgeable, and non-snarky, answer. However, I'm still confused. What part of the square does the developer own and maintain, and what part do we as Villagers own and maintain? (And who reaps any profit derived?) Since every inch of the squares is available to non- Villagers, why are residents (through their amenity fees) required to pay for maintenance of this property?

Topspinmo 05-05-2022 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 2092289)
Both are owned by the Brownwood CDD (a unit of local government not a private entity - aka the developer) and are included in Exhibit A of the Project Wide Agreement as are most of the public/entertainment areas in both LSL and BW. So, under the terms of the Project Wide Agreement the maintenance will fall to the Project Wide Fund. They are no different than many other structures and facilities in the community owned by all the CDDs that fall under the agreement, the key difference in my mind is that these are purely ornamental and have no functional need or requirement.

Knowing well the current PWF budget and having seen the proposed budget that is still being worked for next fiscal year I'm still on the fence with this "emergency?" budget item. How did they get in this condition so fast? Why are we only just now seeing the problem? How does a real windmill last decades on a farm but just 10 years in the town square? What will be lost if both are just raised and not rebuilt? How many residents have ever noticed they even existed? What are the legal responsibilities for the Project Wide Agreement to keep/replace the feature? These and many more unanswered questions need to be answered.


We need vote to just remove or replace, the boards don’t speak for majority of villagers, but have special interest involved IMO. If majority want to pay and spend the money then rest who don’t has to suck it up. I never go to brownwood so naturally I would vote to remove and be done with it.

Topspinmo 05-05-2022 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2092354)
Not really.

Yearly tax assessment will though.

Topspinmo 05-05-2022 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2092336)
You can build a three bedroom house for $225,000.00, how can a windmill and water tower base cost that much?

Wood used cost more than 2 by 4s. Then, there the labor and the bid to the work, now add liability, cost of doing business and equipment it will easily in the end be close to million IMO.

dalejiw25 05-05-2022 07:34 AM

I suggest they tear down these structures and replace them with Sunbrellas. The Sun in that square can be pretty intense in the evening. Also change the hours to 6-10 and change happy hour back to 2 hrs. Including alcohol. JMHO

Chi-Town 05-05-2022 07:34 AM

Thank goodness the water wheel at LSL was spared when it needed repair.


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