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JMintzer 05-05-2022 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by rsenholzi (Post 2092260)
are you kidding me? They are the ones making the money . We are the retired ones living on a fixed income. They use a shoddy company to lay in the piping under the roads in the villas and we have to pay for it. They are making money from the businesses in the squares- not only from the rents but additional money from a percentage of what they sell and we have to pay for the upkeep. They keep trying to taking parking spaces from the squares for their rental apartments and who loses out - the people who visit the squares to keep the businesses running because during snowbird season there is no parking. Movie theaters disappeared during covid because people couldn’t go and movies weren’t being made so they closed 2 of them! Their plan - to make more apartments and lose more parking on the squares. Mark my words - their plan is to close the squares so they don’t have to pay for the entertainment. They already refused to renew the contract with the police so there will be no police presence in the squares- another thing we are losing. They don’t care about the people - all they care about is lining their pockets with the green stuff
greed!!!

Isn't that always the answer? :popcorn:

JMintzer 05-05-2022 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by crash (Post 2092280)
How about any seating.
They have bleachers in Brownwood...

Bilyclub 05-05-2022 08:40 AM
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If you look at the bottom of the water tower you can see the shoddy work done. Either they botched it during construction or a cheap fix was done. The windmill itself appears to be functioning properly so all you need is a new tower. Doesn't the District have maintenance people on their payroll or do they contract out everything?

Aermotor Windmill Company - Wind-Powered Water Pumps

rsimpson 05-05-2022 08:44 AM
What is the "significance" of a water tower (that does not function?) Take it down - you won't miss it in a couple months. $225K is still a lot of money.

Joe C. 05-05-2022 08:58 AM
The tower and the windmill look "nice", but in the whole scheme of things, it's a waste of time, money and materials.
If the PWAC "owns" the tower, then they shouldn't be asked by a different entity to replace it, or pay for the replacement.

I think that someone is taking advantage, thinks of it as an opportunity, and wants some "easy money".

dewilson58 05-05-2022 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2092159)
its going to cost us .... $225k to tear down and replace the water tower and windmill in brownwood. the wood is all rotten. just tear it down . somebodys brother inlaw is making a lot of money.
But I was promised there would ALWAYS be a water tower & windmill in Brownwood.

zendog3 05-05-2022 09:04 AM
I like the windmill and water tower. But I think someone needs to question this expenditure.

I remember when they were built. Are we going to be on the hook for a quarter of a million every 5 or 6 years? Those timbers should last longer. Also, if they need to be replaced, take bids. Don't just take someone's word for it that they cost that much.I built a 7000 ft timber frame house of timbers like those used in the water tower for about $750,000. So, when someone tells me the demolition and reconstruction of that windmill will cost $250,000, I am going to take some convincing.

dewilson58 05-05-2022 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by zendog3 (Post 2092474)
I like the windmill and water tower. But I think someone needs to question this expenditure.

I remember when they were built. Are we going to be on the hook for a quarter of a million every 5 or 6 years? So, when someone tells me the demolition and reconstruction of that windmill will cost $250,000, I am going to take some convincing.
Don't fall for the click-bait...........it's estimated to cost. Quotes/bids have not been requested.

NatureBoy 05-05-2022 09:55 AM
My $0.02 since I'm going to be a Villager in a couple months so I need to get some complaining practice in:

One would expect structures like this to use pressure treated lumber and/or be made of materials that would last more than ten years. If The Developer built this as part of the decorations for the square, and then turned the maintenance over to the CDD (or whoever), I think the CDD would have a legitimate gripe that The Developer did not build them properly, in accordance with industry best practices, i.e. did a lousy job and should have known better. The dollar amount is probably not high enough to get too many lawyers involved, but it seems fair that the original builder (The Developer) should bear the burden of replacing it.

On the other hand, if there was some sort of maintenance that was required/expected to keep the structures healthy, and the CDD didn't perform that, then the fault is theirs.

Now, do _I_ want _my_ tax dollars going to replace something that is purely decorative? Not really. I'd rather see the money go into something functional - someone mentioned shading.

JMintzer 05-05-2022 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2092472)
But I was promised there would ALWAYS be a water tower & windmill in Brownwood.
:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

conman5652@aol.com 05-05-2022 10:00 AM
Don’t worry be happy

Garywt 05-05-2022 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Driver8 (Post 2092325)
They're concentrating on phasing out Spanish Springs now. I don't see Brownwood going anywhere anytime soon.
Yes, more of a joke. No one knows what will happen to Spanish Springs.

Stu from NYC 05-05-2022 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 2092524)
Yes, more of a joke. No one knows what will happen to Spanish Springs.
The Developer knows all

Marathon Man 05-05-2022 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2092367)
We need vote to just remove or replace, the boards don’t speak for majority of villagers, but have special interest involved IMO. If majority want to pay and spend the money then rest who don’t has to suck it up. I never go to brownwood so naturally I would vote to remove and be done with it.
This is exactly why we should never make decisions by popular vote. People don't like spending money unless they are directly and personally benefited. Take a ride through one of the communities that do that and see the results.

Keefelane66 05-05-2022 10:20 AM
We've been told windmills kill thousands of birds and cause cancer. Time for it to go.


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