[jimmemac]

If you have been around here for 10 or more years you may have noticed that the free golf we once had is getting harder and harder to find. This week my Tuesday group (12 Players), Wednesday group (4 players) and Thursday group (4 Players) all failed to receive a tee time using the tee time system to book a tee time in advance. One of the groups even had an average of less than 2.0 points. My Monday group got a time only because it dropped out 12 players. Yes I am aware that some are going to say we have too many points, or we didn't put in enough courses (18). Give me all the excuses you want but it wasn't always like this. So what changed? The developers did!! They keep building houses but have failed to keep up with the necessary number of courses, plain and simple. Times are changing but not for the better for those of us who enjoy playing a fair amount of golf. And if you think it is bad no just wait till another 5000 homes are built.

[TimeForChange]

Are you talking about Executive Courses or Champ courses? I play in a Wed and Fri group on Champ courses and we have no problem in the high snowbird season getting on Champ courses. It's not free and never has been. We play a lot of the same courses but we get T Times We are all Priority members.

[John_W]

The OP did not state if they are a priority member. That's the big difference. I'm not and the three guys I play the championship courses with every Friday are not and the computer has been unable to fulfill our request for a teetime three times so far the past 3 or 4 months. I've had to go online and get a much later teetime than we wanted, and then we were not able to play 18 holes. That's the problem, without priority membership teetimes at championship courses in the afternoon are a gamble. The savior will be daylight saving time whenever that gets here and then the end of snowbird season.

BTW, didn't you hear, golf is dead and nobody wants to buy here for the golf.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by John_W

The OP did not state if they are a priority member. That's the big difference. I'm not and the three guys I play the championship courses with every Friday are not and the computer has been unable to fulfill our request for a teetime three times so far the past 3 or 4 months. I've had to go online and get a much later teetime than we wanted, and then we were not able to play 18 holes. That's the problem, without priority membership teetimes at championship courses in the afternoon are a gamble. The savior will be daylight saving time whenever that gets here and then the end of snowbird season.

BTW, didn't you hear, golf is dead and nobody wants to buy here for the golf.

Daylight Saving Time for the year 2021 starts on Sunday, March 14th and ends on Sunday, November 7th for the Northern Hemisphere and starts on Sunday, October 3rd and ends on Sunday, April 4th for the Southern Hemisphere.

[Gpsma]

[QUOTE=John_W;1894049

BTW, didn't you hear, golf is dead and nobody wants to buy here for the golf.[/QUOTE]

BINGO...give this man a cigar!

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by TimeForChange

Are you talking about Executive Courses or Champ courses? I play in a Wed and Fri group on Champ courses and we have no problem in the high snowbird season getting on Champ courses. It's not free and never has been. We play a lot of the same courses but we get T Times We are all Priority members.

OP stated "free for life".

[Topspinmo]

IMO one thing we don’t need is more golf courses, nobody need to hog And play 2,3 or 4 time a day. Nowhere one earth are there more golf courses in community. So, if your playing too many times day or week don’t whine about it.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Gpsma

BINGO...give this man a cigar!

Maybe in future, but nobody knows what future holds. Especially us here where most us our time limited.

[tophcfa]

As soon as the winter rates started on January first we noticed that getting t times on the executives got squeezed in a big way. The choice for a non priority couple of paying $128 to hit off fairways with almost no grass, versus hitting off a Tee for free is kind of a no brainer during the winter months. Add to that the lack of adequate t times during the short winter days, houses being built at a faster pace than golfing opportunities are added, and golf being a very safe pandemic activity, and you have the perfect storm for jammed packed executive courses. We have been able to get executive t times, but you must be very flexible with both courses and times. If you have a tight time window and limit requests to only a couple of courses, you won’t have much luck unless you have not played in the last week (no points).

[UpNorth]

The ratio of golf to houses really begins to thin out once you get south of 466A. The further south you go, the thinner it gets. The developer would rather use the land for house profits instead of free golf holes. They will tell you the new young home buyers are not interested in golf anymore. And the "golf" they try to satisfy you with is "putt and play" and "pitch and putt". Poor excuses for real golf courses, executive or championship length.

[Northwoods]

Originally Posted by jimmemac

If you have been around here for 10 or more years you may have noticed that the free golf we once had is getting harder and harder to find. This week my Tuesday group (12 Players), Wednesday group (4 players) and Thursday group (4 Players) all failed to receive a tee time using the tee time system to book a tee time in advance. One of the groups even had an average of less than 2.0 points. My Monday group got a time only because it dropped out 12 players. Yes I am aware that some are going to say we have too many points, or we didn't put in enough courses (18). Give me all the excuses you want but it wasn't always like this. So what changed? The developers did!! They keep building houses but have failed to keep up with the necessary number of courses, plain and simple. Times are changing but not for the better for those of us who enjoy playing a fair amount of golf. And if you think it is bad no just wait till another 5000 homes are built.

I've been shut out on Exec. courses a few times (with a small group ... no one had more than 3 points). I've learned that if I want to get a tee time I have to not only put in many courses but more importantly, I have to put in at least a 5-hour window.
Yes... tee times were easier to get a few years ago. Things have changed. But... if I'm flexible (and I don't have too many points) I can get a tee time.
It's free... so I don't have much of an issue with that. I'm also a Priority member. Now... if I have a hard time getting tee times as a Priority member... I'll have a HUGE issue with that.

[mowdie]

Originally Posted by UpNorth

The ratio of golf to houses really begins to thin out once you get south of 466A. The further south you go, the thinner it gets. The developer would rather use the land for house profits instead of free golf holes. They will tell you the new young home buyers are not interested in golf anymore. And the "golf" they try to satisfy you with is "putt and play" and "pitch and putt". Poor excuses for real golf courses, executive or championship length.

There are 16 exec courses between 466 and 466A. There are 6 exec courses between 466A and 44 (and all six are closer to 466A). So no exec courses by 44 like both sides of 466 and 466A. WHY?

[John_W]

Originally Posted by mowdie

There are 16 exec courses between 466 and 466A. There are 6 exec courses between 466A and 44 (and all six are closer to 466A). So no exec courses by 44 like both sides of 466 and 466A. WHY?

The area furthest away from 466A towards 44, you have Brownwood Square, a fire station, now a wood shop, huge Eisenhower Rec Center and facillities, Transverse Shopping Center, a body of water Lake Deaton, looks like there really isn't much room for an executive course. Along the northern edge is all golf courses and homes, no commercial facilities until you cross east over Morse. It's the lay of the land (the lake) and the placement of the square.

Distance wise, if you're north of 44, it's only about a five minute drive to 466A. I think they crammed as much stuff as they could in the strip of land. 466A to 466 is a good five miles at least.

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[robsherry]

Very true, but still can get a tee time as a single player. Yep, this isn't the same place it once was, but everything changes. Get use to it or get gone.

[mike1946]

If you are just playing Executive Courses Priority Membership has no effect... it's not accounted for in the allocation system - it only has an effect when booking champ courses. Learned this from a talk given by a Tee Time office executive to our golfing group.