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Gulfcoast 12-15-2020 11:11 AM

I am not familiar with the senior Independent Living and AL apartments in TV but there are senior living communities that offer assistance with moves. Buffalo Crossing mentions Senior Move Managers (SMMs) on their website. Again, I am not familiar with the senior living facilities in TV, I have no idea how much move assistance would cost but it might be something worth looking into.

EdFNJ 12-15-2020 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1873738)
Doxxing:

The original letter, which was published on another website, was someone publishing someone else's identifying information (their name, address, marital status, the fact that they can't afford their home). The original post on THIS website (talk of the villages) took that personally identifying information that had been published somewhere else, and made absolutely SURE that it continued to be published, by spreading the information.

That, by definition, is doxxing. The "malicious intent" is "typically" not "always." Definitions are pretty precise. When a definition includes "typically" it's because whatever follows the word is not universally true.

And yes Gracie - clicking a few clicks IS absolutely positively doxxing, when you post (thereby publishing) the results of those clicks. You're one of the people who do it on a regular basis, so of course you won't recognize it for what it is.

Usually I agree with your posts but on this I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. :D That being said, "DOXING" on 99.9% of internet forums IS MEANT to be malicious. This thread was not. The "URBAN DICTIONARY" pretty much has it right: Urban Dictionary: doxxing as it started on the internet or Wikipedia Doxing - Wikipedia Yea, there are exceptions of course but (IMO) this thread isn't close to being doxing.

Chitown 12-15-2020 12:02 PM

I would be willing to donate a fairly large sum of money to help this woman but I would first need to be guaranteed that I can visit the home and see for myself and talk to the woman before I would give her money.

tvbound 12-15-2020 12:18 PM

We had a neighbor who lost her husband of 50+ years and come to find out, he had taken care of all of their financial and day-to-day issues. She asked my wife to help her and come to find out, the husband did most of the bill paying and banking online, but hadn't even provided his computer challenged wife with any of the passwords. It was a complete mess. My wife spent days helping her understand how to do everything from paying utility bills (reverted to snail mail), to how to write a check correctly, as she had always just used a credit card and had no clue as to what happened after that. Although it's hard to know in this case, it could be possible that the lady in the OP might be in a similar situation (although probably not after rereading the first post, given that her husband passed away quite a while ago) and just doesn't know how, or what, she needed to do to keep out of this tough situation. While I certainly have empathy for this lady, surely there has to be a trusted relative or local group that could sit down with her to try and figure out all of her options and let her choose the one(s) that she wants to take? Not to try and sound cold or uncaring, but I never donate to these types of go-fund-me causes unless I know the person and their situation very well. Especially since I've seen the children and grandchildren of friends, setting up these fund me causes so that they could go on a vacation.

Gulfcoast 12-15-2020 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1873807)
We had a neighbor who lost her husband of 50+ years and come to find out, he had taken care of all of their financial and day-to-day issues. She asked my wife to help her and come to find out, the husband did most of the bill paying and banking online, but hadn't even provided his computer challenged wife with any of the passwords. It was a complete mess. My wife spent days helping her understand how to do everything from paying utility bills (reverted to snail mail), to how to write a check correctly, as she had always just used a credit card and had no clue as to what happened after that. Although it's hard to know in this case, it could be possible that the lady in the OP might be in a similar situation (although probably not after rereading the first post, given that her husband passed away quite a while ago) and just doesn't know how, or what, she needed to do to keep out of this tough situation. While I certainly have empathy for this lady, surely there has to be a trusted relative or local group that could sit down with her to try and figure out all of her options and let her choose the one(s) that she wants to take? Not to try and sound cold or uncaring, but I never donate to these types of go-fund-me causes unless I know the person and their situation very well. Especially since I've seen the children and grandchildren of friends, setting up these fund me causes so that they could go on a vacation.

These are really good points. But, like you said, if this had been going on for 8 months that would be one thing but 8 YEARS - yikes. This situation didn't happen all of a sudden. She has somehow managed to keep all of the balls in the air enough to stay in the house so she must have some sense of what she can/can not afford to do.

It really does sound as though she's simply become overwhelmed by the maintenance of the home. When she and her husband moved into the house it was brand new, the plants in the yard were small and easy to manage and her husband was there to help with it all. Now, her husband has been gone for 8 years, there are more maintenance/repair issues to deal with and she likely has been living on a smaller income since his death. On the bright side, her home has appreciated nicely which should, hopefully, give her some options going forward.

Villageswimmer 12-15-2020 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1873738)
Doxxing:

The original letter, which was published on another website, was someone publishing someone else's identifying information (their name, address, marital status, the fact that they can't afford their home). The original post on THIS website (talk of the villages) took that personally identifying information that had been published somewhere else, and made absolutely SURE that it continued to be published, by spreading the information.

That, by definition, is doxxing. The "malicious intent" is "typically" not "always." Definitions are pretty precise. When a definition includes "typically" it's because whatever follows the word is not universally true.

And yes Gracie - clicking a few clicks IS absolutely positively doxxing, when you post (thereby publishing) the results of those clicks. You're one of the people who do it on a regular basis, so of course you won't recognize it for what it is.


Just my opinion, but the egregious invasion of privacy, completely unfounded speculation about her personal/financial situation, and gossip generated by post after post IS malicious.

DON10E 12-15-2020 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kimaquintana@aol.com (Post 1873188)
Is anyone in touch with this woman? I would be happy to meet with her and potentially purchase the house and let her stay there and pay monthly rent. OR I would be willing to see what she is in need of and help her get workers scheduled and put up funds to get the work done. How do I get in touch with her? Kim Quintana 978-476-1342

That would be great!

The home of Ingrid Rickard at 16558 SE 77th Northridge Court in the Village of Calumet Grove was the subject of a public hearing Friday before the Community Development District 4 Board of Supervisors.

That was from a news story in one of the outlets. Thank you!

Please keep me posted on your progress/outcome!

DON10E 12-15-2020 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1873250)
Life is full of mistakes and hardships we can't save everyone. Currently according to Zillow, there are 16 foreclosures in The Villages area who do you want to save next.

Not being able to save all is not a reason to save none.

Steve&Nancy 12-15-2020 04:00 PM

She may qualify for a "reverse mortgage" up to 50% of the equity she has in the property. This money is tax free, and is repaid from her estate when she's gone. There may not be anything to leave the kids, but she could be comfortable while she can.

Velvet 12-15-2020 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DON10E (Post 1873882)
Not being able to save all is not a reason to save none.

You are right, it is appreciated that this incident is brought to our notice. My personal response is that I like to evaluate which charities I help. And it is good to know who needs help directly. Thank you.

Spalumbos62 12-15-2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1873533)
I am equally as appalled by people asking for help or financial aid for their causes and presenting a story for a "Go Fund Me.".

I think that many Go fund me's are private money makers for the person reporting a sad situation about another. There is nothing wrong for people checking information when folks are asking for money. If this person is in dire straits and allowing her nice home to fall into serious failure, it is not a simple, give her money or organize a committee. I am tired of hearing of those kinds of solutions and tired of others thinking that people want pity or a handout. That is why I said that she must have something amiss that is not allowing her to see the reality of her situation. I imagine her neighbors know and well may have tried to help.

I agree that it can't be solved here but as many others have said it appears her home is worth enough to sell and to find a less expensive place to live. To me that is a simple solution, that most people would choose to do.

There is nothing creepy about doing a few clicks to see just what is going on.

GRACIE..I agree with most if what you just said...I do think "go fund me" is someone taking advantage....BUT doing a few clicks to see what is go I need on....that is straight up nosiness.....Gladys Kravitz.
Please don't tell me you gave binoculars by your front window too. Js

DON10E 12-15-2020 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghancock (Post 1873653)
Can I get her phone no. To tell her I am trying to line up someone now who did ours and was reasonable. Or tell her Antonio Mendez says he can stop by tomorrow and give an estimate. And he would do the work on the weekend. This is Gayle Hancock 352-801-3832

All I have is the article in the News. I don't know her personally. I'd give you the link to the article but I guess that's blocked here.

DON10E 12-15-2020 04:21 PM

Thank you all for some really good ideas. The comments here made it clear to me that Go Fund Me is probably not the right answer. Sometimes the right answer starts with the wrong answer. I think some of the folks here have volunteered to contact her and offer advice/help. I hope they'll keep us posted on their progress.

BTW, I don't know the woman personally and this isn't a scam. I was just bothered by the situation I read about and wanted to help. I'm grateful for the obvious compassion shown by so many. I'm proud to live in a community with so much to offer each other.

Merry Christmas!

retiredguy123 12-15-2020 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DON10E (Post 1873880)
That would be great!

The home of Ingrid Rickard at 16558 SE 77th Northridge Court in the Village of Calumet Grove was the subject of a public hearing Friday before the Community Development District 4 Board of Supervisors.

That was from a news story in one of the outlets. Thank you!

Please keep me posted on your progress/outcome!

You may think it is great to have someone come to the person's house to negotiate a sales price and lease agreement, but I think it is a bad idea. If she wants to sell the house, the way to do it is to get a market analysis, hire a real estate agent, and list it for sale to the public.

Spalumbos62 12-15-2020 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kimaquintana@aol.com (Post 1873722)
So you would not recommend someone offering to pay for her lanai to be fixed without asking the woman to pay it back? There are still good people in the world who have a sincere motivation to help someone in distress. It's clear that I will keep my opinion to myself and will continue to help people whenever I can and however I can. It was an offer to help.

Well...you did come on a little strong saying you could buy her out and then rent back.
Honestly, if this was my grandmother and she was getting this offer from you, I would tell her to run for the hills .
But, truth be told, the thread should not have ever even started....... the only way this became anyone's business is because of the town posting the situation and now people are deciding what she should be getting monthly from the army.... planning on buying her house and making her a tennant, fixing her birdcage....back off folks...let her decide.
I bet its been no stop door traffic since this post....the poor thing.


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