Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
Talk of The Villages Florida - Rentals, Entertainment & More
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania (1759) |
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I agree - good practice. |
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I believe that golf cart drivers are given to believe that those side lanes are for golf carts, walkers, runners and bicycles. To encourage or allow automobiles to begin using them, even for turns is dangerous. No less than automobiles using multimodel lanes.
When one has a sense of security that they are in a "golf cart lane," they shouldn't be subject to making way for automobiles. Until everyone is educated that golf cart lanes are shared by automobiles I say it's a dangerous practice. We see time and again that cars cut in front of carts in a right turn. Imagine those drivers now pulling over into the cart lane with total disregard for the carts, walkers and runners. How soon will it be before a golf cart is in the blind spot on the right of a car when it make it's entry into the golf cart lane. Or a walker or a runner. If they are to be shared, don't call them golf cart lanes. At that time, signs should indicate that cars are merging with carts. JLK |
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[QUOTE=Talk Host;310391]I believe that golf cart drivers are given to believe that those side lanes are for golf carts, walkers, runners and bicycles. To encourage or allow automobiles to begin using them, even for turns is dangerous. No less than automobiles using multimodel lanes.
When one has a sense of security that they are in a "golf cart lane," they shouldn't be subject to making way for automobiles. Until everyone is educated that golf cart lanes are shared by automobiles I say it's a dangerous practice. We see time and again that cars cut in front of carts in a right turn. Imagine those drivers now pulling over into the cart lane with total disregard for the carts, walkers and runners. How soon will it be before a golf cart is in the blind spot on the right of a car when it make it's entry into the golf cart lane. Or a walker or a runner. If they are to be shared, don't call them golf cart lanes. At that time, signs should indicate that cars are merging with carts. JLK[/QUOTE It would be a big mistake to assume a sense of security no matter if you're in a golf cart in the golf cart lane or in a car in a car lane. You must expect the unexpected and ALWAYS pay attention to everything. You must learn to anticipate others intentions. |
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That's true enough, and thousands of people are killed or injured because people don't or can't anticipate the actions of others. To invite automobiles to begin sharing cart lanes, I believe, is a big mistake. There are thousands and thousands of golf carts driving along with a sense of some security that they have their own lane, when suddenly, there's a car, garbage truck or UPS truck pulling into what they thought was their right of way. Unregistered carts are not permitted in the traffic lane, so the assumption is that registered automobiles are not suppose to be in the cart lane.
If it's gonna be that way, make it that way. Inform everybody and stop calling it a golf cart lane. |
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Look at the original post again. One of the problems with having cars move into the cart lane to pass when another car is waiting to turn left is that, when traffic starts to move, you can get two cars trying to move in the same direction where there is only a lane and a half.
Also, someone farther up the street sees traffic stopped behind a car turning left and starts to pull into the street when another car suddenly appears by going around in the cart lane. Even on Morse north of 466, the wait isn't usually that long since they put the lights in at San Marino. |
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I'm not sure that it's a law that cars must to go into the cart lane to initiate a right turn. I believe that it may be a misguided suggestion.
Additionally, I don't think that those lanes are wide enough to accommodate a full size car or truck, and the lanes are separated by a solid white line which I believe we are not suppose to cross. If it becomes the law of the land that those lanes are to be used for cars to turn, then in short order people will also use them for driving. Think not? JLK |
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Best to error on the side of caution and not use the cart lane for passing a left turning vehicle on the right or making a right turn.
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A bit off topic from original post, but.....
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http://www.sfbike.org/?bikelane_right_turns http://www.thewashcycle.com/2010/07/...ing-right.html It makes no more sense for a car to take a right hand turn from the traffic lane without first merging into the golf cart lane than it does for a golf cart to take a left hand turn from the golf cart lane without first merging into the left hand traffic lane. Turning across lanes without first properly merging is dangerous. |
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AJ.... I agree with you [and the California law] totally. It just makes common sense that a car would merge into the cart/bicycle lane to make a right hand turn. As with any merge, the driver should signal his/her intentions and make sure there is no other vehicle present. Whether its a cart, car or bicycle should not matter.
I just fail to see where this is an issue... The best way to make sure you are not in a accident [ever!], with you car or your cart, is to leave them in the garage... Just my thinking... |
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There is a wide canyon between "leaving your car in the garage" and providing traffic laws that best assure motorist safety. You have your opinion. I have mine. |
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Additionally, Section (2) reads in part, ...In no event shall such movement be made by driving off the pavement OR MAIN-TRAVELED PORTION OF THE ROADWAY. The "main-traveled portion of the roadway" is defined as that area where vehicles usually and normally travel. The 'golf cart lane' is not the Main-Traveled Portion for cars. Regardless the reason that traffic ahead is stopped in the lane, you cannot drive out of your lane to the right onto the Golf Cart Lane to pass on the right. This area is not the Main Traveled Portion of the roadway. |
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