[midiwiz]

Originally Posted by RICH1

It seems like the Next Generation of Retirees are moving in with more Liberal views on our established rules. Golf cart governor over-rides, pool IDs, AirBnbs, parking trailers in driveways, going around the ARC process, it goes on and on, and neighbors are afraid to report, and confront their neighbors about these infractions. I guess being "soft" is going to be make The Villages just another " all about me" neighborhood.. It's getting old fast.

That is a miopic viewpoint. The reality is that it's not actually needed to be coined as a politics thing aka "liberal" The fact is that a lot of the frogs etc, don't really get the so called rules. Does the gold cart governer really matter? No it does not. AirBNBs? well you guys actually caused all that. trailers ok fine but I don't see a lot of it. ARC process depends on the CDD just because one CDD is more restrictive that the other it's not going around. Actually speaking from experience this is another area where the frog group just doesn't read. Also it's not YOUR job to police any of this. Mind your own business and make sure you are doing the right things, believe it or not, all these things you say the others do has absolutely NO effect on you. If it doesn't crap on your life it's none of your business.

[RickyLee]

Originally Posted by srswans

That describes FL exactly - as it is and always has been down here.

Big shift from the yankee and puritan mindset up north.

There's always up north...

[donfey]

Originally Posted by Toymeister

Get off my lawn!

We gotta BE "That Guy!"

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

I am pretty much passed by every golf cart when out. I have an operating governor that keeps me just below 20 MPH.

And it has been that way since we got that golf cart. This was probably around 2015.

Scofflaws.

[Indydealmaker]

Originally Posted by RICH1

It seems like the Next Generation of Retirees are moving in with more Liberal views on our established rules. Golf cart governor over-rides, pool IDs, AirBnbs, parking trailers in driveways, going around the ARC process, it goes on and on, and neighbors are afraid to report, and confront their neighbors about these infractions. I guess being "soft" is going to be make The Villages just another " all about me" neighborhood.. It's getting old fast.

I would call it more irresponsible than liberal. We need to lobby Florida for CDDs to gain enforcement powers.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Why drive so slowly? Is your cart capable of doing the speed limit of 20 MPH? My electric cart does 20.4 MPH on a good down hill and 19.9 MPH on flat land. That seems very safe to me. Why make me have to pass you? I'm certainly not going to drive 15 MPH when my cart can give me the legal speed limit. Passing is dangerous even if one goes about it safely.

A certain poster here (he may be on "vacation" right now), likes to remind people that "SLOW DRIVERS" cause just as many accidents (possibly more) than faster drivers...

Passive aggressive drivers who "slow down when someone is on their @ss" are just as dangerous as those wishing do go a few MPHs faster...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The Police should do spot checks for golf carts with altered top speeds. The gas carts that can go over 20 MPH should get large dollar tickets. Police are responsible for SAFETY and golf carts with higher speed just encourages too much aggressive passing.

Nonsense...

My car has a top speed of over 120 mph... Which is already well above the posted speed limits...

If I boost its performance to 130, should that be "more illegal"? As long as I obey the speed limits, what's the problem? Same with golf carts...

[Larchap49]

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive

Rules without enforcement are merely suggestions.

I agree and the more I hear and read it seems TV is very reluctant to rattle anyone's cage by enforcing their own rules. Also TV seem very inconsistent in the ones they do enforce. One thing they are consistent with is raising the cost of everything they control.

[Shimpy]

Originally Posted by GoRedSox!

We just got a new Yamaha and it tops out at 20. Most of the time, it's at 19, even on flat ground. And yes, we get passed quite a bit. But I am not in a hurry to get anywhere when I'm in a golf car. If I have to get there fast, I will take my car.

What if in golf cart and the need to make an emergency toilet stop?

[GoRedSox!]

Originally Posted by Shimpy

What if in golf cart and the need to make an emergency toilet stop?

Well, of course, now we are getting to an issue for men at age 63 that I would rather not talk about but is a reality. I have only had this experience once so far, and Edna's was right around the corner. I'm still not going to be in a rush, in the case of need, I will program the GPS for the nearest rec center, there is always one close by.

Another reality is that my golf car will not go over 20 no matter the situation. 19-20 is the maximum speed. Is this typical for Yamaha gas cars?

[cjrjck]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

The Police should do spot checks for golf carts with altered top speeds. The gas carts that can go over 20 MPH should get large dollar tickets. Police are responsible for SAFETY and golf carts with higher speed just encourages too much aggressive passing.

Yeah, that's exactly how local police departments should allocate their limited resources. Those darned golf carts that have been tampered with.

[Marathon Man]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Nonsense...

My car has a top speed of over 120 mph... Which is already well above the posted speed limits...

If I boost its performance to 130, should that be "more illegal"? As long as I obey the speed limits, what's the problem? Same with golf carts...

Not the same. This has been talked about and explained countless times.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by midiwiz

That is a miopic viewpoint. The reality is that it's not actually needed to be coined as a politics thing aka "liberal" The fact is that a lot of the frogs etc, don't really get the so called rules. Does the gold cart governer really matter? No it does not. AirBNBs? well you guys actually caused all that. trailers ok fine but I don't see a lot of it. ARC process depends on the CDD just because one CDD is more restrictive that the other it's not going around. Actually speaking from experience this is another area where the frog group just doesn't read. Also it's not YOUR job to police any of this. Mind your own business and make sure you are doing the right things, believe it or not, all these things you say the others do has absolutely NO effect on you. If it doesn't crap on your life it's none of your business.

I disagree with part of this reply. That is, Golf Cart governors being changed for more speed. The GAS (as opposed to electric carts) have a HIGH center of gravity, which in combination with HIGHER speeds and often intoxication, cause the MANY golf Cart accidents that we read about. Ones like, "golf cart crashes into a palm tree and the driver is too drunk to get out of the vehicle".
.......A couple of days ago there was a story written by a bicycle rider that said a speeding and out of control golf cart cut him off and he flew over the handlebars and cut his knees. Also, it was a hit and run. I can just imagine that the Golf Cart had its speed settings tampered with.
........The only answer is for Police to make spot checks of suspiciously fast Golf Carts and issue HUGE tickets.
..........Some people may want to "poo-poo" THIS entire situation and NOT be able to RELATE to the injured bicyclist because they are always riding in an automobile or a Golf Cart. But, younger retirees want to enjoy the exercise and freedom of their bike rides. And more and MORE people are buying E-bikes in our age group.
.........It IS the RESPONSIBILITY of The Village owner / managers to PROMOTE safety through their POLICE FORCE. The idea of faster and faster Golf Carts is NOT "cute". It is DANGEROUS !!!!!!!

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by cjrjck

Yeah, that's exactly how local police departments should allocate their limited resources. Those darned golf carts that have been tampered with.

Please ask WHY the Police numbers and resources are LIMITED. We are a RICH community that pays TONS of money in taxes and activities fees. And also goes out to restaurants at a HIGH rate, which gives additional money to the DEVELOPERS. Remember in New York the increased Police presence and efficiency BEGAN with a need to stop "the broken window effect". Well, we have a "failure to Police the ILLEGAL speeds of Golf Carts" situation that is COMPARABLE.
.........Since it was just admitted that The Villages LACKS sufficient Police for the wealth of the area - I can imagine that any local CROOK then also is aware of that fact. And heaven FORBID that a crazed mass murderer wanted to attack an evening SQUARE - what then? Add more POLICE..........after the fact.
........Old people are ALWAYS a target of CRIME. And old RICH people are a greater target.
.........Conclusion.......when we have ENOUGH POLICE PRESENCE to deter ILLEGAL Golf Cart speeding, we will have enough POLICE PRESENCE to deter the more SERIOUS CRIMES. Everyone agrees that we The Villages CITIZENS are paying a lot to be here. Surely we DESERVE to be SAFE!!!!

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

A certain poster here (he may be on "vacation" right now), likes to remind people that "SLOW DRIVERS" cause just as many accidents (possibly more) than faster drivers...

Passive aggressive drivers who "slow down when someone is on their @ss" are just as dangerous as those wishing do go a few MPHs faster...

You have slightly misstated the actual wording of the "study". What it stated was that slow drivers are "more likely to be involved in" an accident, not that they necessarily "caused" the accident.

The poster of which you speak, and I ,had a lengthy back and forth on this difference. Even he agreed eventually that this statistic may well reflect the likelihood that "slow" drivers are driving slowly because they are aged and recognize that they don't see so well, their reflexes aren't what they used to be etc. etc.

The study also stated that while they may be involved in more accidents, it did not study the severity of accidents, and the relationship between severity and speed.