[VillagerFrog58]

Ok, I'm only 58 so can handle loud noises. We went to the 5pm Luminescence show at the Savannah center. While the show was ok, we would have really enjoyed it IF they would not have played the volume so loud; especially the BASS. I have a DB sound analyzer on my iphone and measured 110db for the set right before the intermission. My ears were starting to hurt. The last set averaged 102db with peaks at 108db. When we broke for intermission, I heard many comments from others that said the same thing. Wow, too loud and could not hear the voices. Even my wife said it was too loud. When your chest is vibrating, you would understand what I mean.
Anyhow, I hope that whoever runs the Entertainment reads this and makes contract corrections to perhaps limit maximum volume levels for better enjoyment. 110db is like working at a power saw 3' away. Look at the URL for comparisons.

Decibel (Loudness) Comparison Chart

Anyhow, for other villagers... take care and have great holidays.

[Mikeod]

A lot of the groups bring their own soundman/person. My experience is that most set the volume too loud as well. We usually sit in the stands in back and I still need to wear ear plugs. I have some hearing loss, but it's still hurtful for me.

And I agree, it's sometimes impossible to discern the lyrics because of the volume, although the ear plugs help a bit.

[Challenger]

Originally Posted by Mikeod

A lot of the groups bring their own soundman/person. My experience is that most set the volume too loud as well. We usually sit in the stands in back and I still need to wear ear plugs. I have some hearing loss, but it's still hurtful for me.

And I agree, it's sometimes impossible to discern the lyrics because of the volume, although the ear plugs help a bit.

I find that there are excessive db levels at almost every event that includes music in TV and in fact almost everywhere now. My wife and I uusually leave events (club dinners etc ) when the music starts. We both can hear reasonably well at 78yrs but don't want to risk damage at these db levels. Our rule is -if you cant carry on a conversation level at the table , then music is too loud. Our we go. When the piccolo player has an amplifier bigger than a base drum , you know that you are in trouble.

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by Challenger

My wife and I uusually leave events (club dinners etc ) when the music starts. We both can hear reasonably well at 78yrs but don't want to risk damage at these db levels. Our rule is -if you cant carry on a conversation level at the table , then music is too loud. Out we go.

I agree with you totally. I will absolutely not put up with loud noises, including music. I even walked out of our son's wedding reception because the music was too loud.

We enjoy going to music at the Squares. We bring our own chairs and sit back far enough so the music is at a comfortable volume.

[Retiring]

Originally Posted by VillagerFrog58

Ok, I'm only 58 so can handle loud noises. We went to the 5pm Luminescence show at the Savannah center. While the show was ok, we would have really enjoyed it IF they would not have played the volume so loud; especially the BASS. I have a DB sound analyzer on my iphone and measured 110db for the set right before the intermission. My ears were starting to hurt. The last set averaged 102db with peaks at 108db. When we broke for intermission, I heard many comments from others that said the same thing. Wow, too loud and could not hear the voices. Even my wife said it was too loud. When your chest is vibrating, you would understand what I mean.
Anyhow, I hope that whoever runs the Entertainment reads this and makes contract corrections to perhaps limit maximum volume levels for better enjoyment. 110db is like working at a power saw 3' away. Look at the URL for comparisons.

Decibel (Loudness) Comparison Chart

Anyhow, for other villagers... take care and have great holidays.

Seriously 110 db? Anything over 85db has the potential of permanent damage. Also, it would depend of duration of exposure.

In my experience I’ve found all bands play too loud. They don’t do it intentionally. Most musicians have hearing loss so it doesn’t sound too loud to them.

Please let someone in charge know how loud the bands are playing. If no one says anything, it won’t be fixed. If I was there I would say something but I’m 3000 miles away. Reasonable sound levels have nothing to do with age, I’m 55 and I would like to keep what hearing I still have.

[raynan]

We were at the Bruce Springsteen Tribute band at Savannah Sat nite at the 5pm show. The band was good but the sound level was way too loud. We go to a lot of the shows at Savannah and The Sharon. When you cannot decipher the lyrics and your chest is feeling the bass it is not enjoyable. We sit in the last row on the floor at Savannah. I can't imagine what it's like in the front rows. Several people walked out after the first song. More left after every song. People sitting in the audience with their fingers in their ears. Some people went and sat in the lobby because of ear pain but had to wait for the rest of their group to leave. Many complaints were lodged to the ushers and were related several times to the sound person but no change was made. We have to start demanding refunds because walking out doesn't work. It would be interesting to find out if it's the same sound person tonight that was there on Sat nite.

[Rango]

I use disposable ear plugs. I find the sound level too loud at the movie theaters.

[Jimmydoodlebug]

For comparison, the horn on a train is limited to 110 db and everyone knows how loud that is. It could practically blow you out of your car.

See line 4

eCFR — Code of Federal Regulations

[villagetinker]

We went to the Charlie Daniels concert at the Sharon, the sound was so bad I almost left. The last song, The Devil went down to Georgia, was so bad that I know the words, and could not understand Mr. Daniels. I sent several letters of complaint to the Sharon. I did get a reply, which if I remember correctly, each group uses their OWN sound people and equipment. We boycotted the Sharon until Illuminati was there. Went to that show, and the sound was very good, as was the show.
IMHO, the VILLAGE management of these venues needs to be present at rehearsals and to suggest/demand the appropriate volume levels. If necessary, they should be at the actual shows, with the authority to lower the volume levels if above an agreed to limit, JMHO.

[Challenger]

Aren't we talking about violations OSHA regs.? I know that the law relates to the work place, but there are workers in these venues.

[raynan]

I agree. We were at the Charlie Daniels Band too. Could not understand the lyrics at all and we know the songs. Villages entertainment has to have someone in authority that can adjust the sound level if necessary.

[perrjojo]

Originally Posted by villagetinker

We went to the Charlie Daniels concert at the Sharon, the sound was so bad I almost left. The last song, The Devil went down to Georgia, was so bad that I know the words, and could not understand Mr. Daniels. I sent several letters of complaint to the Sharon. I did get a reply, which if I remember correctly, each group uses their OWN sound people and equipment. We boycotted the Sharon until Illuminati was there. Went to that show, and the sound was very good, as was the show.
IMHO, the VILLAGE management of these venues needs to be present at rehearsals and to suggest/demand the appropriate volume levels. If necessary, they should be at the actual shows, with the authority to lower the volume levels if above an agreed to limit, JMHO.

We went to Charlie also. You are correct. We could not understand a word he was singing because the music was so loud. A very unpleasant experience.

[Two Bills]

Have not been to concerts for years because of the sound issues. They could do away with the lyrics, and go all instrumental for what you can make of them.
It is the same with television shows, they seem to be obsessed with playing music over the commentators voice, and drowning them out.
As for the music? they play in all stores etc. Don't get me started!

[VApeople]

Originally Posted by Two Bills

It is the same with television shows, they seem to be obsessed with playing music over the commentators voice, and drowning them out.

We watch a lot of shows with closed caption.

However, the voices on older shows - like Magnum, Lone Ranger, and Palladin - are usually much clearer.

[Retiring]

These noise levels do exceed OSHA but TV is not your employer. If they were, all they would be required to do is provide hearing protection. At the airline we have cases of foam ear plugs next to every door that goes out onto the ramp. Would be nice if TV provided a bucket full of earplugs at each event. (It costs approx. $10-15 for a case of 200 pair.) I think TV can afford it, but if they choose not to supply plugs I may put out a case of plugs at the events myself. Hearing is near and dear to my heart and most don’t understand that hearing damage is usually, or maybe always, permanent.

If you ask the band I’m sure they would say it’s not loud enough. So the last thing they would offer is to spend the $15 for plugs.

We have musicians on this forum, please share your thoughts on the subject.