[janetlea]

Hopefully everyone survived the hurricane. I have a villa with a fence in my backyard that has 5 Village palms tress behind my fence which never get trimmed. This morning I had 48 palm fonds in my yard, on my patio roof and the walkway on the side of my house. I called Property Management this am to complain about the palm fonds that are not mine! I was told that due to the fact they are in my yard I am responsible for the clean up even though the Villages owns the palm trees, kind of understand that but I still filled an complaint and was very surprised when someone from the Villages showed up 1/2 hour later. Every storm I have to clean up these palm fonds but never this many. He was very nice but reinforced that I was responsible for the cost of the clean up but he would make a note to have an Arborist look at the palms to see if they are dying. So long story short called my landscaper who is the best, Vidal Landscaping who came today to clean up my mess. They cleaned up 48-50 fonds and then had to clean out all of my gutters due to the debris from the palms that was clogging them to the tune of $350.00. My question is does anyone have an idea how to follow up on this to maybe recroup what I paid for the clean up and to let the Villages know that the landscaper told me I probably have another 5-10 fonds that are going to come down in the next wind storm. Another clean up bill.
Thanks, Janet

[shut the front door]

Originally Posted by janetlea

Hopefully everyone survived the hurricane. I have a villa with a fence in my backyard that has 5 Village palms tress behind my fence which never get trimmed. This morning I had 48 palm fonds in my yard, on my patio roof and the walkway on the side of my house. I called Property Management this am to complain about the palm fonds that are not mine! I was told that due to the fact they are in my yard I am responsible for the clean up even though the Villages owns the palm trees, kind of understand that but I still filled an complaint and was very surprised when someone from the Villages showed up 1/2 hour later. Every storm I have to clean up these palm fonds but never this many. He was very nice but reinforced that I was responsible for the cost of the clean up but he would make a note to have an Arborist look at the palms to see if they are dying. So long story short called my landscaper who is the best, Vidal Landscaping who came today to clean up my mess. They cleaned up 48-50 fonds and then had to clean out all of my gutters due to the debris from the palms that was clogging them to the tune of $350.00. My question is does anyone have an idea how to follow up on this to maybe recroup what I paid for the clean up and to let the Villages know that the landscaper told me I probably have another 5-10 fonds that are going to come down in the next wind storm. Another clean up bill.
Thanks, Janet

$350 to pick up palm fronds and clean gutters? WOW. That's ridiculous.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by janetlea

Hopefully everyone survived the hurricane. I have a villa with a fence in my backyard that has 5 Village palms tress behind my fence which never get trimmed. This morning I had 48 palm fonds in my yard, on my patio roof and the walkway on the side of my house. I called Property Management this am to complain about the palm fonds that are not mine! I was told that due to the fact they are in my yard I am responsible for the clean up even though the Villages owns the palm trees, kind of understand that but I still filled an complaint and was very surprised when someone from the Villages showed up 1/2 hour later. Every storm I have to clean up these palm fonds but never this many. He was very nice but reinforced that I was responsible for the cost of the clean up but he would make a note to have an Arborist look at the palms to see if they are dying. So long story short called my landscaper who is the best, Vidal Landscaping who came today to clean up my mess. They cleaned up 48-50 fonds and then had to clean out all of my gutters due to the debris from the palms that was clogging them to the tune of $350.00. My question is does anyone have an idea how to follow up on this to maybe recroup what I paid for the clean up and to let the Villages know that the landscaper told me I probably have another 5-10 fonds that are going to come down in the next wind storm. Another clean up bill.
Thanks, Janet

Key statement. Did you ever complain before??

[Aces4]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Key statement. Did you ever complain before??

Another key statement... what difference would complaining earlier make? Her statement seems clear enough to me, The Villages won't pay and it's not their problem.

Watch where you buy people, you make end of paying for The Villages mess.

[daniel200]

FE962/FE962: Handbook of Florida Fence and Property Law: Trees and Landowner Responsibility

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by shut the front door

$350 to pick up palm fronds and clean gutters? WOW. That's ridiculous.

I agree.

[Caymus]

Seems high, but did it take them 4 minutes or 4 hours? What was the size of the work crew?

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by janetlea

Hopefully everyone survived the hurricane. I have a villa with a fence in my backyard that has 5 Village palms tress behind my fence which never get trimmed. This morning I had 48 palm fonds in my yard, on my patio roof and the walkway on the side of my house. I called Property Management this am to complain about the palm fonds that are not mine! I was told that due to the fact they are in my yard I am responsible for the clean up even though the Villages owns the palm trees, kind of understand that but I still filled an complaint and was very surprised when someone from the Villages showed up 1/2 hour later. Every storm I have to clean up these palm fonds but never this many. He was very nice but reinforced that I was responsible for the cost of the clean up but he would make a note to have an Arborist look at the palms to see if they are dying. So long story short called my landscaper who is the best, Vidal Landscaping who came today to clean up my mess. They cleaned up 48-50 fonds and then had to clean out all of my gutters due to the debris from the palms that was clogging them to the tune of $350.00. My question is does anyone have an idea how to follow up on this to maybe recroup what I paid for the clean up and to let the Villages know that the landscaper told me I probably have another 5-10 fonds that are going to come down in the next wind storm. Another clean up bill.
Thanks, Janet

$350? I’m sure your landscaper is ‘the best’ but who wouldn’t be for that price point! There used to be laws that protect people from price gouging during events like this...not saying this is the case but sure seems excessive for the work you described.

[AMB444]

Note to those buying in TV. Make sure NO trees or landscape materials from neighbors will land on you property. Obviously a problem that potential buyers need to be aware of.

[westernrider75]

Originally Posted by janetlea

Hopefully everyone survived the hurricane. I have a villa with a fence in my backyard that has 5 Village palms tress behind my fence which never get trimmed. This morning I had 48 palm fonds in my yard, on my patio roof and the walkway on the side of my house. I called Property Management this am to complain about the palm fonds that are not mine! I was told that due to the fact they are in my yard I am responsible for the clean up even though the Villages owns the palm trees, kind of understand that but I still filled an complaint and was very surprised when someone from the Villages showed up 1/2 hour later. Every storm I have to clean up these palm fonds but never this many. He was very nice but reinforced that I was responsible for the cost of the clean up but he would make a note to have an Arborist look at the palms to see if they are dying. So long story short called my landscaper who is the best, Vidal Landscaping who came today to clean up my mess. They cleaned up 48-50 fonds and then had to clean out all of my gutters due to the debris from the palms that was clogging them to the tune of $350.00. My question is does anyone have an idea how to follow up on this to maybe recroup what I paid for the clean up and to let the Villages know that the landscaper told me I probably have another 5-10 fonds that are going to come down in the next wind storm. Another clean up bill.

Thanks, Janet

My guess is you have the benefit of those trees without the expense of planting them but you do have the obligation to clean up after them.

[La lamy]

I don't know OP's health status, but picking up a frond and dragging it to the curb for waste management is not hard. I would do it myself and call it a little exercise event. As far as the gutters are concerned, I'd wait to see how they work during a strong rain (yes you can go outside and look!), before trusting someone that says I need to get them cleaned.

[Mrmean58]

Originally Posted by Caymus

Seems high, but did it take them 4 minutes or 4 hours? What was the size of the work crew?

It doesn't matter. The homeowner is responsible for the clean up. That is true in the villages and anywhere else.

[midiwiz]

Originally Posted by janetlea

Hopefully everyone survived the hurricane. I have a villa with a fence in my backyard that has 5 Village palms tress behind my fence which never get trimmed. This morning I had 48 palm fonds in my yard, on my patio roof and the walkway on the side of my house. I called Property Management this am to complain about the palm fonds that are not mine! I was told that due to the fact they are in my yard I am responsible for the clean up even though the Villages owns the palm trees, kind of understand that but I still filled an complaint and was very surprised when someone from the Villages showed up 1/2 hour later. Every storm I have to clean up these palm fonds but never this many. He was very nice but reinforced that I was responsible for the cost of the clean up but he would make a note to have an Arborist look at the palms to see if they are dying. So long story short called my landscaper who is the best, Vidal Landscaping who came today to clean up my mess. They cleaned up 48-50 fonds and then had to clean out all of my gutters due to the debris from the palms that was clogging them to the tune of $350.00. My question is does anyone have an idea how to follow up on this to maybe recroup what I paid for the clean up and to let the Villages know that the landscaper told me I probably have another 5-10 fonds that are going to come down in the next wind storm. Another clean up bill.
Thanks, Janet

Congrats! Wecome to TV, where mgmt could care less as they already have you trapped and are collecting your $$$. NOTHING is their problem only yours it's by design. While they could clean up those palms, they won't. They lean on "Sharon Morse love them that way" and other BS. in order to have any chance with them you have to take this out of local court and find a federal law, etc to sue them for. They have local everything wired to their favor, what isn't is the next level up. That's how you hit them.

Your case will be almost impossible because (thinkng back to my HOA days) I don't know of any federal law that would enbale this type of suit, and it doesn't qualify for selective enforcement. Your only other angle would be a class action law suit and I don't think these residents have enough balls to do that.

Good luck, I'm on your side I hate the sight of thse unkept palms.

[mkjelenbaas]

Originally Posted by janetlea

Hopefully everyone survived the hurricane. I have a villa with a fence in my backyard that has 5 Village palms tress behind my fence which never get trimmed. This morning I had 48 palm fonds in my yard, on my patio roof and the walkway on the side of my house. I called Property Management this am to complain about the palm fonds that are not mine! I was told that due to the fact they are in my yard I am responsible for the clean up even though the Villages owns the palm trees, kind of understand that but I still filled an complaint and was very surprised when someone from the Villages showed up 1/2 hour later. Every storm I have to clean up these palm fonds but never this many. He was very nice but reinforced that I was responsible for the cost of the clean up but he would make a note to have an Arborist look at the palms to see if they are dying. So long story short called my landscaper who is the best, Vidal Landscaping who came today to clean up my mess. They cleaned up 48-50 fonds and then had to clean out all of my gutters due to the debris from the palms that was clogging them to the tune of $350.00. My question is does anyone have an idea how to follow up on this to maybe recroup what I paid for the clean up and to let the Villages know that the landscaper told me I probably have another 5-10 fonds that are going to come down in the next wind storm. Another clean up bill.
Thanks, Janet

Don’t waste your time and energy - pay the $350 and put it behind you.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Originally Posted by midiwiz

Congrats! Wecome to TV, where mgmt could care less as they already have you trapped and are collecting your $$$. NOTHING is their problem only yours it's by design. While they could clean up those palms, they won't. They lean on "Sharon Morse love them that way" and other BS. in order to have any chance with them you have to take this out of local court and find a federal law, etc to sue them for. They have local everything wired to their favor, what isn't is the next level up. That's how you hit them.

Your case will be almost impossible because (thinkng back to my HOA days) I don't know of any federal law that would enbale this type of suit, and it doesn't qualify for selective enforcement. Your only other angle would be a class action law suit and I don't think these residents have enough balls to do that.

Good luck, I'm on your side I hate the sight of thse unkept palms.

I will say I admire anyone willing to cross the ‘company line’ and express their opinions, even if they differ from the fellowship here....

That said, everybody here signs on the dotted line, there really are no secrets at closing. Just like logging on to any platform, who really reads all the ‘terms and agreements’ in their entirety. Most learn this behavior from politicians that put out 8,000 page bills and can’t tell you what’s in the body of the rest of it. Read the first page and the last page...like CliffsNotes.

The developer is successful because he dots the I’s and crosses the T’s. Maybe more here should do the same....exercise some due diligence before signing on the dotted line. It’s all in there for those that care enough to look at it.

As far as your ‘residents having the balls to do it’ comment. This reminds me of Harold Ramis’ character in the movie ‘Stripes’...when he says ‘i want you guys to know, if we ever see any real heavy combat, i’ll be behind you every step of the way’!