[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by cherylncliff

Common sense would be leave your guns at home in a gun safe unless you are going to the range

Yeah, I'll politely disagree... I've visited parts of Wildwood, Leesburg and Orlando where I was glad that I was armed. Just common sense...

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Who, on this thread made any such claim?

If they aren't carrying due to ego (you objected to that previously) and they aren't carrying so a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun (this objection) then is it just a fashion statement?

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by raananh

Common sense says that if people are armed, then criminals will have second thoughts about doing crime or using their guns. Am I right?

Or they will be first ones shot?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Correlation does not prove causation...

Exactly, that's why I included the statement in the post you quoted.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725

Like walking into a crowded restaurant with a gun on your hip? Scare people into getting a table faster?

Sorry, your feelings are not my concern...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlDWzN6TW5Y&t=1s

Fast forward to 2:10 for the appropriate part (or watch the whole thing if you want a laugh!)

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Actual training is no longer required to carry in Florida. As for the statement, it all looks quite accurate.

Where did I say it -was- required? I feel it -is- a VERY good idea, and I've taken multiple courses in self defense and defensive shooting.

As to the statement, "ONE COP" made a comment? A comment that doesn't reflect the reality of what typically happens?

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

If they aren't carrying due to ego (you objected to that previously) and they aren't carrying so a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun (this objection) then is it just a fashion statement?

Self defense... Which is why the VAST majority of people choose to carry a weapon.

Contrary to the opinion of several people on this thread, they aren't trying to live out some Charles Bronson vigilante fantasy...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

Exactly, that's why I included the statement in the post you quoted.

And why I included it in my response to you... Funny how that comes back to bite you...

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Personally, I found that I'm a much calmer person when carrying.

Yep.

The LAST thing I want to do is get involved in a confrontation...

Also yep. The first thing they teach you in CCW class is not to put yourself in a situation where you might need to use your weapon, bc the last thig you want to do is actually use it. Wise words.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Self defense... Which is why the VAST majority of people choose to carry a weapon.

Of course.

Contrary to the opinion of several people on this thread, they aren't trying to live out some Charles Bronson vigilante fantasy...

That's bc the gun control crowd is living in their fantasy world where legal, registered, CCW gun owners are committing crimes and mass shootings. Quite the opposite; the illegal, unregistered crowd is who you need to be worried about.

[bmcgowan13]

[QUOTE=Road-Runner;2461550Everyone there was still talking about a news story that just happened where someone concealed carrying in a restaurant moved in such a way to pull up his shirt temporarily exposing his inside the waste pistol to another patron. For this he was arrested and charged with a weapons related felony since there was no open carry. This was ludicrous at the time but Jacksonville's overzealous anti-gun DA prosecuted the poor guy regardless.[/QUOTE]

Something fishy here...

790.053 Open carrying of weapons.—
(1) Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection (2), it is unlawful for any person to openly carry on or about his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device. It is not a violation of this section for a person who carries a concealed firearm as authorized in s. 790.01(1) to briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense.

Sounds like he was possibly carrying concealed but did not have a permit.

I've always found it odd that every gun store, gun show, and shooting range I have ever been to in Florida has a sign on the front door...

"While we respect the 2nd amendment we kindly ask that no loaded weapons are brought into the building."

But when Florida Hospital, Disney, my church, my dentist or a local restaurant asks for that same courtesy people lose their minds.

go figure...

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by Pugchief

Of course.



That's bc the gun control crowd is living in their fantasy world where legal, registered, CCW gun owners are committing crimes and mass shootings. Quite the opposite; the illegal, unregistered crowd is who you need to be worried about.

You would probably find that most of the school and other shootings used guns owned by them or one of their family members.


There are stolen guns used in crimes but these are probably connected with the drug trade and other illegal activities like gambling, prostitution, etc.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I remember hearing about a few different mass shootings, when more than one person in the crowd was carrying a gun, but NONE of them shot back. For that reason - I am of the opinion that all these folks claiming to demand the right to protect themselves from a shooter - are posturing. They WANT to believe that they'd shoot the assailant. But chances are, they won't. And if they do shoot, and miss, guess who ends up shooting them instead?

Then there's the possibility that someone turns the corner JUST as a defender is firing against the original shooter. And that corner-turner person sees the defender doing the shooting, and shoots THEM thinking they're saving the day.

You couldn't pay me to possess a firearm. If I thought otherwise, I would've gone into law enforcement instead of retail.

[Taltarzac725]

Characteristics and Obtainment Methods of Firearms Used in Adolescent School Shootings - PubMed

FYI.

[Blueblaze]

I grew up in Oklahoma, where open carry has ALWAYS been legal. I can count on two fingers the times I ever saw a civilian carry openly, and in both cases, they were business owners. One of them was a favorite downtown burger joint, and I will admit, the first time I saw a guy flipping burgers with a 357 on his hip, it was a shock. But I doubt that he was ever robbed.

It's a stupid thing to worry about. Nobody who means you harm is going to advertise it.