[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Get real. People who want open carry may or may not realize that having a loaded and ready for action is passive/agressive] intimidation. You will get looks and make many folks, especially those with families, very uncomfortable and you know it. Makes sense that those looking for a pleasant meal will hurry or pack there food to go. You would be advertising the possibility and increased probability of violence and drama. If I walked in with my family and saw someone with a gun on their hip, I would take the family elsewhere.

Sounds like a "You" problem...

[Mrprez]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Partially true. You cannot carry (open or concealed) into a bar, but you CAN carry into a restaurant that serves alcohol...

You still cannot consume alcohol if you have a firearm with you.

Florida Statute 790.151 prohibits the carrying of a firearm while under the influence of alcohol, chemical substances, or controlled substances. While there isn’t a specific blood alcohol content (BAC) level explicitly defined in this statute regarding firearms, the law refers to being impaired to the point where your normal faculties are affected. This is significant because it means you don’t necessarily need to be legally drunk to be in violation. Even a small amount of alcohol that demonstrably impairs your judgment could lead to legal trouble. Law enforcement officers can use field sobriety tests and observations to determine if you are impaired.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

I’m not sure that’s true but let’s say it is. I’ll change my statement to shall-issue makes it easier to carry a gun, more likely that a gun will be carried, and less likely an illegal gun will be identified and taken off the street.

I'lll have to disagree with your last statement. How could you possibly prove that?

Add that to a population with a high crime rate already and crime increases. Who would have guessed?

Where did you come up with that?

[JMintzer]

/// Wrong case

[JMintzer]

My bad. Confused Daniel Perry w/ Daniel Penny. Penny was acquitted...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

No. More reality. Sad but true.

Sure... But no...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

Not "No". "Yes" is the correct answer, and that is why it may be assumed it could happen with open carry.

Please cite the event where it happened. Seriously. I have NEVER heard of such a case in TV.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

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Good one!

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580

If it is concealed, who would know. People do illegal stuff allll the time. In fact I bet you may have done something illegal at some point in your life. I have, and I'm not proud of it. But I'm much better now. 😃

Not the point... But I refuse to answer on the grounds that it may...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Mrprez

You still cannot consume alcohol if you have a fireman with you.

Florida Statute 790.151 prohibits the carrying of a firearm while under the influence of alcohol, chemical substances, or controlled substances. While there isn’t a specific blood alcohol content (BAC) level explicitly defined in this statute regarding firearms, the law refers to being impaired to the point where your normal faculties are affected. This is significant because it means you don’t necessarily need to be legally drunk to be in violation. Even a small amount of alcohol that demonstrably impairs your judgment could lead to legal trouble. Law enforcement officers can use field sobriety tests and observations to determine if you are impaired.

There is a difference between "Consuming alcohol" and "Under the Influence"... A BIG difference!

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

That's a lot of "what if's"... What if you see the whack job start to shoot and are able to stop him with one accurate shot, injuring no one else - then what?

What, exactly, does a "whack job", look like? How do you know that he/she/it is actually going to pull the trigger? How do you know that the gun is even loaded, or real?
How do you know until said "whack job" actually discharges the weapon and a bullet is actually out of the muzzle that you aren't witnessing a stunt. Do you take him/her/it down first? And how would you feel if you, fueled by fear or anxiety shot first and found you had been too hasty and mistook a harmless YouTube prank and ended a life? And, when you f8re all the other gun towers who didn't know what you were shooting for and decide YOU are the shooter and fire in your direction?

[Mrprez]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

There is a difference between "Consuming alcohol" and "Under the Influence"... A BIG difference!

It isn’t defined under that law. It could be as little as a sip.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

There is a difference between "Consuming alcohol" and "Under the Influence"... A BIG difference!

.08 is NOT A BIG difference.

[Pugchief]

Originally Posted by Mrprez

You still cannot consume alcohol if you have a fireman with you.

How about if you have a policeman with you?

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by JMintzer

Sounds like a "You" problem...

Not just me. But feeling somehow so insecure and impotent that you feel compelled to strap that big iron on your hip sounds like psychological issues to me.