[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

That is patently not true. Please stay off the internet. the vaccines PREVENT you from getting sick from Covid. The science is not there yet to make a statement such as you are making.

Please see response #33 and some discussion over in one of the other threads on the same topic. "The science is not there yet" means that "patently not true" is a bit of an overstatement.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

I want what Gracie said to be true but that isn't what I have heard. Just wondering why we are being told by CDC that anyone who is vaccinated must continue to wear masks and social distance so as not to transmit Covid to another person. The person vaccinated is protected but others are not.

I didn't see that statement from the CDC. Wear masks and distance for how long after vaccination?????

Since the very concept of that statement is the antithesis of vaccination strategy, I have to believe it is an agenda driven statement. I can only speculate as to why they would put that out there.

perhaps....

1) Since the studies were fast tracked, perhaps they did not gather the ancillary information as to how long after vaccination one develops immunity (and therefore cannot transmit)

2) The first shot confers about 50-60% immunity and the second 95%. That still means the vaccine did not work on 5% or 50,000/million recipients. They might not want those people out there believing they are safe.

3) (and I favor this one) As we roll out the vaccine, a larger percentage of the population will slowly be immunized----10%,20%,30% etc. There are plenty of places that have a sign that states "mask required", and plenty of people who go ape-sheet if they spot someone not wearing one. How can we know who was and was not vaccinated? A scarlet V tattooed on their forehead???? Imagine a grocery store where some are masked and some are not---with the current level of anxiety it's a formula for chaos.

But I would never take that statement to mean immunized individuals are not protected and can transmit COVID

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I didn't see that statement from the CDC. Wear masks and distance for how long after vaccination?????

Since the very concept of that statement is the antithesis of vaccination strategy, I have to believe it is an agenda driven statement. I can only speculate as to why they would put that out there.

perhaps....

1) Since the studies were fast tracked, perhaps they did not gather the ancillary information as to how long after vaccination one develops immunity (and therefore cannot transmit)

2) The first shot confers about 50-60% immunity and the second 95%. That still means the vaccine did not work on 5% or 50,000/million recipients. They might not want those people out there believing they are safe.

3) (and I favor this one) As we roll out the vaccine, a larger percentage of the population will slowly be immunized----10%,20%,30% etc. There are plenty of places that have a sign that states "mask required", and plenty of people who go ape-sheet if they spot someone not wearing one. How can we know who was and was not vaccinated? A scarlet V tattooed on their forehead???? Imagine a grocery store where some are masked and some are not---with the current level of anxiety it's a formula for chaos.

But I would never take that statement to mean immunized individuals are not protected and can transmit COVID

You can find the CDC statement and a link to it back on response #21.

I have seen your #1 used as an explanation (though I don't currently have that link) and I suspect your #3 plays into it as well.

[Bonnevie]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I do not think you are clear as to what is really happening. Please read what Golfing Eagles wrote. Please. EVERY POST ON THIS THREAD FROM GOLFING EAGLES. He is an M.D. from the State of New York, now living here.

having worked with many, many doctors over the years, having MD after your name isn't a guarantee of always being right, not that this person isn't, just one should get more than one opinion.

[Bonnevie]

Originally Posted by Debfrommaine

I work in healthcare here, vaccines are being administered efficiently, IMO, in my workplace. Had my first injection Saturday, no issues all the way around.

I find this quote from an actual, working healthcare worker evidence of what's really happening. was in a doctor's office yesterday an when I asked if they have got it or will be getting it, he expressed frustration saying "we're getting no information about it".