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junction29 04-08-2016 12:48 PM

TV will have to pay!
 
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Originally Posted by Retiring (Post 1210297)
If not too much of a financial burden, empty pool, professionally clean, refill. And I would invoice somebody, but don’t know who.

Hi everyone,

Thank you for all your advice.

I think on balance it will have to be emptied, cleaned, filters changed and refilled and I will expect TV to pay for their mistake.

On reflection I still think that my idea of regular daytime testing is necessary.

Carl in Tampa 04-08-2016 12:54 PM

Some Reassurance
 
If I were in your situation my first step would be to ask The Villages management what action they proposed to take to reassure me that the water in my pool was safe for human contact.

I would also want to know the source of the water used to irrigate the golf course; is it from retention ponds, or is it semi-processed "grey water?"

Before considering using the pool I would give it a chlorine shock treatment followed by testing for residual chlorine and total chlorine. More about this in a moment.

The reason for the shock treatment is that chlorine will kill the bacteria which might be in the pool. Chlorine is the chemical of choice for processing drinking water throughout our nation.

When the Southern Baptist Disaster Relief volunteers go to the sites of hurricanes, floods, or other places where the safety of the water is in question, they set up their own water filtration systems. They systems are basically physical filters for the larger material that can be filtered out with a final treatment of chlorine. I have seen this done, but have not actually taken the training.

I have extracted the following from the Oklahoma Baptist Water Purification Manual: Chlorine has been universally accepted as an excellent disinfectant by public utility authorities. Chlorine kills rather than removes bacteria. The chlorine burns the bacteria and requires a contact time to accomplish this process. Recommended chlorine injection into drinking water will range between 4 and 8 ppm, (U.S. public utility water usually has 1 to 2 ppm). Water that has been chlorinated should be allowed to sit for at least 30 minutes before being used for drinking.

The portable system uses other elements in addition to the physical filter and chlorine, but they are major elements. You can read the entire manual at http://www.okdisasterhelp.org/wp-con...2008-03-17.pdf

Chlorine is a powerful chemical. The Centers for Disease Control says that chlorine in a swimming pool kills the HIV virus.

I mention all of this just to give you a measure of reassurance that perhaps your pool filtration system has kept you safe in the past. As Gracie pointed out, if no one has become ill, that might be an indication that the contamination has been handled.

Regarding the testing after chlorination, this is from the Manual: Chlorine has been universally accepted as an excellent disinfectant by public utility authorities. Chlorine kills rather than removes bacteria. The chlorine burns the bacteria and requires a contact time to accomplish this process. The remaining chlorine after “burning” bacteria is called “free chlorine”. When testing the output of the water purification unit, the free chlorine and total chlorine should be the same, indicating no bacteria in the water. Commercially available water quality test strips (litmus strips) are provided from swimming pool supply stores. Follow the instructions on the bottle of test strips. Test strips should be kept in their original container, which should be kept closed before and after use.

I will be interested in what assurances The Villages offers.

Carl in Tampa 04-08-2016 01:08 PM

Southern Baptist Disaster Relief
 
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As a brief addition to my post, you will note in the Water Purification Manual, it is considered acceptable to have a water source that is a pond covered with scum (algae), which might or might not describe the retention pond that your golf course irrigation is drawn from.

Bogie Shooter 04-08-2016 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by junction29 (Post 1210163)
Hi,
At just after 7am this morning, TV was watering the golf course and a huge jet of water was shooting into our pool.

When we contacted TV about it at Bonifay Country Club they sent a guy, who first of all didn't believe it was watering on our property and then had the cheek to say it normally happens around midnight or one o'clock, as if, if we didn't see it, it was ok 😈😈

We have often seen moisture on our birdcage in the mornings, but just assumed it was condensation from the night air, now we realise we, our friends and relatives, including our Grandchildren have been swimming in CONTAMINATED WATER - probably for the last THREE Years - NOT Good enough!

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I think TV should try out their golf course sprinklers every few months during the day at a publicised time, so that everyone on a golf course can see whether their home has been polluted by this filthy water.

Over this three year period, how much pool water have you and your grandchildren drank?

gomoho 04-08-2016 01:17 PM

At the risk of having my head chopped off - may I ask a question. My understanding is the golf courses are watered with water from the retention ponds throughout The Villages evidenced by the fact when flooding is a threat they run the sprinklers to lower the pond. Assuming that is the water that went into your pool - how would this be any different then swimming in a pond or lake which has no chlorine treating the water?

Uberschaf 04-08-2016 01:19 PM

I swam in lakes before,I'm still here.A small pool has about 14,000 gallons of water I doubt that maybe a gallon or two went in the pool so that leaves 13,098 gallons of clean water I don't think you would have to drain the pool.What about rain that's non potable.

kcrazorbackfan 04-08-2016 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1210205)
If no one became sick and they changed the sprinkler right away then all is well. Right?


It is good to warn others that this could happen but an errant sprinkler sprinkling your yard is an advantage, just not your pool. Your own sprinklers could do that too. And south of 466 they are diverted retention pond water.

Before all of you yappers keep jumping on gracie girl for her comment, I believe when she asked "right"? she was doing that with sarcasm.

graciegirl 04-08-2016 02:43 PM

I thought I was the worst worrier I had ever met.

Walter123 04-08-2016 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1210328)
Over this three year period, how much pool water have you and your grandchildren drank?

And yet another unbelievable comment.

outlaw 04-08-2016 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 1210329)
At the risk of having my head chopped off - may I ask a question. My understanding is the golf courses are watered with water from the retention ponds throughout The Villages evidenced by the fact when flooding is a threat they run the sprinklers to lower the pond. Assuming that is the water that went into your pool - how would this be any different then swimming in a pond or lake which has no chlorine treating the water?

I think the irrigation water for homes south of 466 is reclaimed/grey water versus the TV common property, which is retention pond supplied. A friend living in Buttonwood? has a filter on his irrigation water supply because it is slimy.

flyerguy 04-08-2016 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by junction29 (Post 1210313)
Hi everyone,

Thank you for all your advice.

I think on balance it will have to be emptied, cleaned, filters changed and refilled and I will expect TV to pay for their mistake.

On reflection I still think that my idea of regular daytime testing is necessary.

I believe TV management will want a sample of the water and want to know the extent of the contamination, if any, before they would authorize the costs of emptying, refilling and new filter's. So before you empty the pool, check with management to see what they might require.

outlaw 04-08-2016 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1210358)
Before all of you yappers keep jumping on gracie girl for her comment, I believe when she asked "right"? she was doing that with sarcasm.

Wrong.

chuckinca 04-08-2016 03:02 PM

Toss a gallon of Clorox in the pool and stay out of it for a few days until you can't smell the chlorine or until your pool guy tells you the chlorine level is safe.

(that's how municipal water tanks and pipelines are decontaminated but with more or less chlorine)

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graciegirl 04-08-2016 03:03 PM

Illness Increasing From Contaminated Swimming Water

bagboy 04-08-2016 03:14 PM

I would ask your pool tech and the pool installer for advice as to what your options are. If they aren't sure, they can find out for you.


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