Cooguated stailess Steel Tubing safe if insalled properly
 

The key to this settelement if you read it is that they assert that Stainless Steel Tubing is safe only if it is installed properley. That means bonding and grounding the Corrugated Stainless Steel tubing as close as possible to the metter on the house side with Number 6 wire to the electrical panel ground and main house ground and not routing the Corrugated Stainless Steel tubing next to any metal object in particular the Gas Exhaust from the Furance that projects 6 feet into the air and act like a lighting rod. The Settlement states correctly installed Stainless Steel Tubing is safe and that the problem is with Corrugated Stainless Tubing that is not installed correctly. If you can walk around the Villages and find where these Corrugated Stainless Steel Pipes are Grounded and Bonded at the gas meter and connected to the eletrical panel and main ground I would like to see them. Other wise you are dreaming about this.

I don't know if there is an agenda but here is what I can tell you from my similar experience. In 2000 we bought a home that was built in 1991. It was not here in TV. Our home was built to code and and acceptable specifications at THAT time. After we purchased our home it was discovered that polybutylene plumbing would burst without warning over time. We discovered that Synthetic Stucco had major mold problems. Guess what? We had both. We paid 6000 dollars to replace the plumbing and another 6ooo for stucco remediation and protection. Who's fault was that? It was no ones fault because it was built to code at the time and problems were discovered later. who paid for this! We did. Stuff happens. There were class action suits but we were not eligible because we did not wait for the impending disaster. We felt better having peace of mind. There are many building products that have been used and later found to be unreliable. Stuff happens. I hate it when it happens to me. Who is to blame? Beats me! Stuff happens! If you feel uncomfortable with your gas plumbing...replace it...but it was an acceptable building product at the time it was installed.

For those of us laymen who have never heard of this issue before, what is the hidden agenda posters keep alluding to? There must be a reason so many homes in The Villages have burned to the ground after being struck by lightning. Some of us are very interested in this subject.

We also had homes with things that were built to code and later proven to be fire hazards. What comes to mind first was a house we built in the early '70s that had a laundry chute. Big fire hazards, and illegal in PA shortly thereafter.

Then we had a house in NJ that had aluminum wiring, and that became a fire hazard. All these things were to code at the time. We had the laundry chute closed off in the PA house and replaced the wiring at the receptacles throughout the house in NJ as per the method recommended.

To those that are asking, the OP had been to a POA meeting where this was brought up. I wonder (but cannot prove) if the "agenda" is to get people riled up enough to bring another class action suit. ONLY MY SPECULATION.

If the purpose was just to make people aware of the safety issue, the first thread would have covered it. We may hear more about this in the future.

Just my opinion.

Automatic Shut off valve
 

It seems to me a simple solution is in the wings but I can't find it. Maybe some of you plumbers/electricians know of this solution.

In my previous life I was a machine designer and some of our products were Ovens, really big ovens that were in some cases big enough to put a car body in and were several hundred feet long. Any way we had exhaust ducts that sometimes went through fire walls. At these areas we had to install a fire damper. It was a damper designed to shut automatically when a fusible link was activated by excessive high temps. Like a fire in the oven. They also shut down the gas train to the oven because the airflow stopped.

There are automatic gas shut off valves that are earthquake activated. They are used to shut down the main line in the event of an earthquake.

It seems to me there should be a thermal activated gas valve that we could use in our homes. The sensor would need to be in the actic and the valve right after the meter outside the house. It could also be a high flow shut off valve.

I like gas for it's economics and particullarly for cooking. So I feel fortunate that I live in a neighborhood that has gas. BTW I think the last house that burnt to the slab because of a lightening strike was all electric. I could be wrong on that.

Any of you experts know of an thermal automatic valve.

In addition to earthquake gas shut off valves, triggered by seismic events, there are also excess flow gas shut off valves triggered by a gas line break. Sounds like a less costly solution to replacing csst gas line.

Wonder why a simple replumb using black pipe wouldn't be done? It is economical, sturdy and easy to ground.

Up in boston a plastic tube was used by the gas company to replace our 40 year old line. Note the plastic tube was fished thru the existing underground line.

What we don't know is whether the OP has this problem and doesn't know how to get it fixed, doesn't have this problem but concerned that other people do, or has spoken to a contractor about it and wonders if it is covered under some program. There was some reference in one of her posts to the POA. Has anyone seen this issue discussed in their newsletter?

A direct hit
 

From what I have been able to find out Black Iron ot Galv. Pipe would still likely be ruptured or perforated due to a direct lightening strike.

High flow shutoff valves are a potential solution. The are limited however. Most of the investigations showed the gas lines with small perforations. The valve would not detect that meanwhile a deadly pocket of gas would develop. Eventually the pipe would break and the valve would shut things down.

Ok folks. Everyone relax. Yes the gas lines need to be bonded. In the villages in every home I've been in during construction ( thousands) all of the home with gas are bonded during the electrical rough in. It is code and these home would have never passed inspection had they not been bonded.

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Spoiler Alert!
 

Omike, you should be ashamed of yourself! Spoiling everybody's fun by using first person observation and experience based facts! You know that mindless speculation and liberal dispersion of rumors is way more fun!

Yeah, and not only that, now we can't fight anymore. Grrr...:mad:

My apologies!! I won't let it happen again. I never meant to ruin the fun.....lol!

No worries. We'll just have to find something else to argue about!