Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 1937988)

Want to see vaccination rates soar? Make it a prerequisite to vote.

Originally Posted by fishon (Post 1937991)

I have been tested positive for the covid antibodies.
Covid must have been the headache I had back in December.
I have no intention of getting a dangerous, rushed to the front vaccination.

It's been field tested on millions

Didn't the CDC say you can still get the Chinese Virus even after your vaccination?

No, they didn't (well, yes, 0.008% can)

Anyway, my natural covid antibodies can beat up your artificial antibodies.

Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1937971)

When you own a business or a cruise line you can make the decision if you want to risk your business or cruise line. So far, the cruise lines do not. If you don't want to play then you have option of not patronizing those businesses or cruise lines that conflict with your opinion.

Originally Posted by lindaelane (Post 1937872)

Its my understanding cruise lines will accept the white card you received when you got your vaccine. I know for a fact (because I am going) that Iceland will accept that card as proof of vaccine, so this card looks to be on the road accepted from folks from the USA, worldwide.

I presume these white cards can be forged, though it would be difficult to get the exact type and weight and size of paper if you are just "downloading from the internet", but I presume it could be done. Countries lower their risk but do not eliminate risk when asking for a vaccine card. We are going to need to work with lowered risk, not perfect lack of risk. Every time we drive a car we work with lowered risk.

Laminating cards is advised against since it is possible boosters may be needed next year and would be noted on that card.

"Vaccine passports" appear to be a United States "thing" (despite the name "passport") to get into large gatherings, businesses, etc. who decide they want these passports (if they are legal in their state) and who put no faith in the white vaccine card that is being accepted by other countries as sufficient proof of a U.S. vaccination.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1937989)

That makes no sense, especially when you don't need ID to vote

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1937878)

Why the uprising of some chanting...do not take away my rights...when shot records and requirements thereof have been a part of International travel for YEARS!!

As it has been in the past....not a big deal....if ya wanna go there get and provide what is required....if not DON'T GO!

Was and remains...pretty simple!

Originally Posted by gatorbill1 (Post 1937566)

How will cruise lines be able to come back to Florida if we don't allow ID proof of vaccine? All cruise lines will require proof, which we in Florida are not allowed to have if they become available.

Originally Posted by twinklesweep (Post 1938006)

Why such an aversion to keeping things simple? And it’s not only international travel; another example is the US military which has an extensive vaccination program.

We’re on information overload—some good information, some unintended misinformation (in the sense that they learned something new this week regarding something from last week), deliberate misinformation, and any combination that serves its intended purpose.

I can get overwhelmed by too much complicated information, and it’s at times like this—vaccine or no vaccine, masks or no masks, social distancing or not—that I ask myself:

“What would be the choices of such publicly known figures as American businessman Herman Cain, US Congressman-elect Luke Letlow, East African nation Tanzania President John Magufuli, actress Cloris Leachman, baseball star Tom Seaver, and others to these questions?”

This is not a sure-fire solution, because there’s no way to get into anyone else’s head—but it can help by reducing the issues to the most appropriate simplest possible terms.

Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 1938053)

You cannot buy a machine gun,...

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1937680)

Notice when you read a post, read what was posted.

Quote “ if you can’t find your card you can download a blank one”

No reference to if one was vaccinated. Just a statement that you can download a blank card

A 5 year old and a good scanner can accomplish a white card in 5 minutes

Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1937968)

I was wondering the same thing. There are lots of people who have natural immunity to the virus because they already had and recovered from the virus.

Florida is handling this whole thing right. Businesses, including cruise lines, should not be asking to see our personal health records.

Originally Posted by Patriceunger (Post 1937982)

I don’t think people who are choosing not to get vaccinated are ignoring public safety, and I think very few are rejecting it because of political beliefs or rights. Many are rejecting it because they don’t feel as though it’s been proven safe due to limited testing and the fact that none are FDA approved. It’s their right not to participate in the clinical study that is ongoing, and I don’t have any negative opinions about people making that choice. A few years or less down the road, all of those who rushed into get the vaccines may feel differently based on long term results. Time will tell, but no one should presume that you know what’s best for others.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1937994)

I don't know that, so there's no way in he!! that you do. And just how long does natural and vaccine conferred immunity last? I don't know that (and certainly neither do you)

Just what we need, another google physician that gets everything wrong