[CFrance]

[QUOTE=Abby10;1464874]I like not having to deal with trash cans in TV. Up north, they always seem so unsightly and then there's the problem with people leaving them out too long, wind blowing them over, and they can get pretty heavy even with wheels. Never thought it was cheapness on the part of the developer - husband and I thought it was just a better way to keep the community looking nicer. If there is a major problem with bags being torn open though, I can see the reason to change the current system.

Regarding coyotes, when we were down in September, we spotted one in the vicinity of the Villages of Sanibel/Charlotte. As we rounded a bend in our golf cart, we realized that it appeared to be tracking a couple of women who were walking their small dogs. We rushed up to alert them. They said they were aware and frightened. We escorted them home hoping the golf cart noise would keep the coyote away. Fortunately, they got home safely with their dogs. I said to my husband, instead of being on community watch, we were on coyote watch that night! [/QUOTE
Kudos to you! Neighbors helping out.

[Mrs. Robinson]

Originally Posted by billethkid

Perhaps the current method is least cost?
Least unsightly?

Originally Posted by Abby10

I like not having to deal with trash cans in TV. Up north, they always seem so unsightly and then there's the problem with people leaving them out too long, wind blowing them over, and they can get pretty heavy even with wheels. Never thought it was cheapness on the part of the developer - husband and I thought it was just a better way to keep the community looking nicer. If there is a major problem with bags being torn open though, I can see the reason to change the current system.

Yes, the current method is the least cost, for the developer, not the homeowner who has to purchase the plastic bags.
And it amazes me that no one cares that these bags do not disintegrate in the landfills.
It's as though no one cares about future generations (grandchildren?) because that who these contaminates will affect.

There are trash bags which are ripped open with trash and garbage strewn all over the street.
Is there anything more unsightly than that???

Why do people make excuses that trash cans are unsightly and because they aren't taken back in when you think it should be done.
If there are "rules" regarding when trash can be placed out, there would be "rules" for when the receptacles have to be taken back in.

[manaboutown]

Coyote proof. Gator proof. Let's hope it does not come to needing to bear proof TV's trash. Counties roll out bear-proof trash cans as the opportunistic eaters' range expands - Orlando Sentinel

[Carl in Tampa]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

Coyote proof. Gator proof. Let's hope it does not come to needing to bear proof TV's trash. Counties roll out bear-proof trash cans as the opportunistic eaters' range expands - Orlando Sentinel

Lions, and tigers, and bears............oh my.

Lions, Tigers, Bears - The Wizard Of Oz - YouTube

[ColdNoMore]

Rumor has it, that there are many more cougars here than coyotes.

[Abby10]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson

Yes, the current method is the least cost, for the developer, not the homeowner who has to purchase the plastic bags.
And it amazes me that no one cares that these bags do not disintegrate in the landfills.
It's as though no one cares about future generations (grandchildren?) because that who these contaminates will affect.

There are trash bags which are ripped open with trash and garbage strewn all over the street.
Is there anything more unsightly than that???

Why do people make excuses that trash cans are unsightly and because they aren't taken back in when you think it should be done.
If there are "rules" regarding when trash can be placed out, there would be "rules" for when the receptacles have to be taken back in.

I'm a little lost here when you talk about the use of plastic trash bags. Even if you had trash cans for your trash, wouldn't you still be using trash bags? Unless you're speaking of disposal of recyclable materials, then I see your point, but since you mention landfills I'm thinking otherwise.

[elshackovillages]

There is no reported attack on a human, by a coyote, in the state of Florida. Southeastern coyotes do not attack pets being walked on leashes, as coyotes are opportunistic animals. They will, however, keep coming around an area where they have seen small dogs or cats running free. They will watch and wait for that opening, and they will kill your pet. But, the rules of the Villages prohibit people from letting their pets run free or tying them up outside, so, there should not be any problems with coyotes. But, there is. Every dog killed by a coyote, was illegally running free. That means the owner put their dog's life in danger as well as broke the rules of the Villages. If you love your pet, keep it on a short leash and obey the rules.

[Mrs. Robinson]

Originally Posted by Abby10

I'm a little lost here when you talk about the use of plastic trash bags. Even if you had trash cans for your trash, wouldn't you still be using trash bags? Unless you're speaking of disposal of recyclable materials, then I see your point, but since you mention landfills I'm thinking otherwise.

No.
Trash bags aren't necessary in a trash can.
I never put garbage in with trash; that's what garbage disposals are for.

[gap2415]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson

Yes, the current method is the least cost, for the developer, not the homeowner who has to purchase the plastic bags.
And it amazes me that no one cares that these bags do not disintegrate in the landfills.
It's as though no one cares about future generations (grandchildren?) because that who these contaminates will affect.

There are trash bags which are ripped open with trash and garbage strewn all over the street.
Is there anything more unsightly than that???

Why do people make excuses that trash cans are unsightly and because they aren't taken back in when you think it should be done.
If there are "rules" regarding when trash can be placed out, there would be "rules" for when the receptacles have to be taken back in.

In the Port Charlotte area, giant garbage cans were provided free to all households, one for recycling. Like many, an attractive little fence was put on the driveway side of the house and we easily wheeled it to the curb. All neighborhood cans matched. From then on, only one garbage person was needed as an arm from the truck picked the cans up and put them in the truck before lowering it back in place. At first, many even us, resisted the change but soon got to like it. Later, on a trip to Toronto, we saw how people had recycling down to an art. Even kitchen leftovers and potato peels went into plastic buckets that were picked up for recycling. Most used their own recycle bags in stores. Toronto had a big garbage\landfill problem and sought ways to solve it. Even in the country areas, lots of different large containers were at strategic points for separation of various recycled items and people used them. When I came back to Florida and saw all the plastic bags being used in stores, I had a sinking feeling that we complain about the environment but do much less than we can to protect it.

[gap2415]

Originally Posted by Nodipecten

The pack of coyotes live right behind my house on Lake Miona, they were here earlier in the year then left somewhere but I can hear them almost every night at dusk just a few yards behind my house. A week ago I spotted a pack of four in the middle of the day catching mice or rats in the long grass between the house and the lake and was able to take a picture but rushed to the lanai to bring my cats in.

If we have a rat problem, and kill off all the feral kitties, why wouldn't the coyotes move in. I'd rather cats than rats especially with the new no kill, back into the neighborhood with a clipped ear and shots Program out...our neighborhood patrol! Coyotes not so much as they kill our pets when we let them loose. We need a war on rats I think, the coyotes just might head elsewhere as it is harder to snatch a well-guarded pet.

[TNLAKEPANDA]

Originally Posted by manaboutown

I have lived around coyotes most of my life (still do in NM and CA). Friends of mine lost several of their cats which liked to roam free to coyotes. Best to stay with your (leashed) dog when it is out. Coyotes are very smart wild animals. They are stealthy, quick to react, can move fast and I can verify are very difficult to hit with a scoped .243 rifle out on a ranch in broad daylight! Please, do not try to shoot one in an urban environment with a handgun! Use pepper spray or the like.

If you know of a nearby coyote den, find a trapper to take care of it.

We are from AZ and lived out in the desert 🌵 with the coyotes. They are very smart animals and will out witt you every time. Pepper spray is ok but chances are if they are that close you are already in big trouble. We are trained using firearms and I would have one on me to use as a last use option.

[Taltarzac725]

Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA

We are from AZ and lived out in the desert ������ with the coyotes. They are very smart animals and will out witt you every time. Pepper spray is ok but chances are if they are that close you are already in big trouble. We are trained using firearms and I would have one on me to use as a last use option.

Throw golf balls at them. Seems to have worked in other communities. Geneva Adopts Plan to "Haze" Coyotes - NBC Chicago

[Henryk]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson

Carl -- you always give such good information on most topics and this is another one of them.
At personal level, I don't think ripped open plastic trash bags needs to be a widespread problem.
As long as there is some of this happening, and there is, it warrants having the trash cans you describe and show.
Regardless of the fact that so many people are against trash receptacles because they don't want to be bothered with them, it is the only solution that makes sense, particularly to solve the "critter" problem.

Waste Management provides the type of can you have shown. Unfortunately, we do not have Waste Management.
I believe the reason we don't have that type of trash can and recycling can is because the developer doesn't want to go to the expense of providing them.
No -- instead residents have to go to the expense of buying trash bags which only adds to the millions of bags that don't disintegrate in the landfills.

HenryK -- Good for you! You are one of the few who doesn't throw garbage in with your trash.
I do a similar thing that you do.
I save up Chicken bones in the freezer until I have enough and when I do I pressure cook them.
When they are soft, I put them in a blender to pulverize them and then add it to our dogs' food.
I also have a compost bin for vegetable and plant remains.

I wish more people cared about our environment, but alas -- they don't because it's usually too much of a bother.

Mrs. R., I have a dual rotating compost unit. I was shocked to find that (I assume was) squirrels ATE through ROUNDED edges to get inside. How do you avoid rodent problems?

[Island57]

Originally Posted by elshackovillages

There is no reported attack on a human, by a coyote, in the state of Florida. Southeastern coyotes do not attack pets being walked on leashes, as coyotes are opportunistic animals. They will, however, keep coming around an area where they have seen small dogs or cats running free. They will watch and wait for that opening, and they will kill your pet. But, the rules of the Villages prohibit people from letting their pets run free or tying them up outside, so, there should not be any problems with coyotes. But, there is. Every dog killed by a coyote, was illegally running free. That means the owner put their dog's life in danger as well as broke the rules of the Villages. If you love your pet, keep it on a short leash and obey the rules.

Exactly. Common sense. This should not even be an issue. Keep your eyes and a leash on your pet!

[Mrs. Robinson]

Originally Posted by Henryk

Mrs. R., I have a dual rotating compost unit. I was shocked to find that (I assume was) squirrels ATE through ROUNDED edges to get inside. How do you avoid rodent problems?

I have had a compost bin for the past 25 years or so, no matter where I've lived.
Currently, I probably have the same one you have now (dual sided and rotating).

I have not had the problem you are having and can't think of a real solution that would work.
Can you attach a flag that would wave in the breeze or sit one of those plastic owl figures on top?

I hate to say this, but it probably isn't a squirrel. Is it happening during the day or at night? That would tell you what it is -- rat or squirrel, but it still doesn't solve your problem.

Rats have been here long before us and will be here well after we are gone.
Yeah, I know; that isn't helping solve your problem, either.
I'll put my thinking cap on and try to come up with something that might help you out.