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MDLNB 07-20-2015 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by beachx4me (Post 1089582)
yes, really and seriously. I find it sad that someone has self appointed themselves as the yard patrol. With the time they are spending doing this they could actually be doing something fun.

And now it has stopped raining and i intend to do something fun!!

amen !!

Bonny 07-20-2015 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1089555)
What makes you think that they are not??

This house has been sitting for a few years. It's 2 doors down from us. Overgrown bushes cover most of the front, the flower beds are filled with tall weeds and the driveway cracks are weeds. The lawn is totally burned. It's just awful.

Barefoot 07-20-2015 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim 9922 (Post 1089453)
Those that complain loudly about the neighbor's bronze birds or concrete turtle, probably adore the Morse's giant "lawn art" such as the phony faded beer signs and covered wagon planter in Spanish Springs, or the cannons "guarding" the entrance to Spanish Springs, or the "wrecked" boats littering Lake Sumter, or the rusting empty grain elevator and windmill that pumps no water in Brownwood, not to mention the silly bronze cowboy, his dog and his "herd" of steers.

I have never complained about a neighbor.
But then I also think the artifacts that create the personality and the ambiance for the three Town Squares
are appropriate and delightful.
I especially like the "silly bronze cowboy, his dog and his herd of steers". :thumbup:

Bonny 07-20-2015 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by broycenjuice (Post 1089541)
Why is deed compliance not going after bank owned houses that have weeds in the driveways, overgrown shrubs, burnt out lawns and a run down house?

Sure hope they do something soon. I sick of looking at it too !! :22yikes:

Polar Bear 07-20-2015 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1089608)
...I also think the artifacts that create the personality and the ambiance for the three Town Squares are appropriate and delightful...

Same here. Plus...they don't violate any deed restrictions. :)

DonH57 07-20-2015 02:47 PM

When we moved to TV the house next to us was vacant and had been for no less than 6 years. The place looked worse than the Addam's family place.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-20-2015 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PattyPan1 (Post 1088380)
Received a visit from someone from the deed compliance office. It seems someone complained that I had some grass that was dying (there was topsoil on it to regrow), then she said I had a flower pot with no plant in it. Also, there were a couple of weeds.

I was steaming mad and called the office to see who complained. They told me that there were approximately 30 complaints registered that day by the same person. All the complaints were around the Buttonwood area.

Of course, the complaints were made anonymously.

If someone has a complaint, they should have to put there name down, especially when there are over 30 complaints.

Some people must have nothing better to do then drive around neighborhoods and report just about anything.

If my lawn was bad, I would just shrug it off, but having sneaky, vicious people just doesn't fit into the "Friendly Neighborhood" motto.

Force people to give there names and I bet the complaints drop down considerably.

When properties are not kept up, it affects the value of all of the properties surrounding it. It's important that people feel that they can complain without fear of retribution. I don't know that I'd want less complaints. In fact in my neighborhood, I feel that more complaints are needed.

It might be that in your case, the complaint was not justified, but does that mean that we want the the number of complaints to drop down? Based on your description it doesn't sound like there was any serious violation on your part. The unfortunate part of having anonymity is that people can make unjustified complaints.

Not maintaining you property properly and dragging down the value of your neighbors property doesn't fit into the "Friendly Neighborhood" motto either.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-20-2015 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by broycenjuice (Post 1089541)
Why is deed compliance not going after bank owned houses that have weeds in the driveways, overgrown shrubs, burnt out lawns and a run down house?

Actually, if you call and complain, they will have someone come out and cut the grass and trim the shrubs. A lien will be filed on the property and The Villages will get their money when it is sold. Unfortunately, sometimes it takes years to determine who is the rightful owner of some of these properties. People die without wills and heirs cannot be found or refuse to take ownership. It may take a bank six months or more to foreclose on a property. Its not always a simple or quick fix.

Bonny 07-20-2015 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1089626)
Actually, if you call and complain, they will have someone come out and cut the grass and trim the shrubs. A lien will be filed on the property and The Villages will get their money when it is sold. Unfortunately, sometimes it takes years to determine who is the rightful owner of some of these properties. People die without wills and heirs cannot be found or refuse to take ownership. It may take a bank six months or more to foreclose on a property. Its not always a simple or quick fix.

We have all have called and called. They pretty much just cut the dead lawn filled with weeds. They cut a few bushes here and there, but not so good in the weeding department.

graciegirl 07-20-2015 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 1089629)
We have all have called and called. They pretty much just cut the dead lawn filled with weeds. They cut a few bushes here and there, but not so good in the weeding department.


The lending institution can choose to ignore the demands of the compliance and the fines stack up. It happens everywhere. Thank Goodness not as often here as in other areas, but it still is frustrating.



But that technically isn't the issue we were discussing. We were discussing people being annoyed that they got a notice. A notice only comes if the person is non compliant, not on the whim of the complainer The complainer can say they don't like your curtains, but compliance can't send a note about that. It has to be something covered in the deed restrictions.

THUNDERCHIEF 07-20-2015 03:15 PM

I agree people should take care of their lawn- i have a beautiful lawn until people from other streets walk their dogs at night and let them pee on my grass-- the next day i have brown spots on the lawn- i can't believe people would bring their dogs to someone else's property to do their business. I put signs out please keep your dog off the grass-- then someone reported i had illegal lawn art in the yard-- wow subdivision living--- THE DEED DEPARTMENT SAID THEY CAN'T CONTROL THE DOGS ITS A CIVIL MATTER- THEY SAID CALL THE POLICE AND GET PICTURES

graciegirl 07-20-2015 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by THUNDERCHIEF (Post 1089636)
I agree people should take care of their lawn- i have a beautiful lawn until people from other streets walk their dogs at night and let them pee on my grass-- the next day i have brown spots on the lawn- i can't believe people would bring their dogs to someone else's property to do their business. I put signs out please keep your dog off the grass-- then someone reported i had illegal lawn art in the yard-- wow subdivision living---



Your signs were non compliant. No signs allowed. I suggest you scream at the peeers and their owners so people can call the cops on you disturbing the peace. ;)


It doesn't take long for things to turn into a poop thread.

MDLNB 07-20-2015 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1089621)
When properties are not kept up, it affects the value of all of the properties surrounding it. It's important that people feel that they can complain without fear of retribution. I don't know that I'd want less complaints. In fact in my neighborhood, I feel that more complaints are needed.

It might be that in your case, the complaint was not justified, but does that mean that we want the the number of complaints to drop down? Based on your description it doesn't sound like there was any serious violation on your part. The unfortunate part of having anonymity is that people can make unjustified complaints.

Not maintaining you property properly and dragging down the value of your neighbors property doesn't fit into the "Friendly Neighborhood" motto either.

I assume that you noticed that the poster stated that there were at least 30 complaints made in the area by that person. You can pretty much surmise by that information that the complainant had an agenda, and was not in the spirit of "Friendly Neighborhood" correction.

Other than abandoned or foreclosed homes going into disrepair, I have not seen any evidence in the Villages of neighborhoods being drug down. But, I have seen some pretty interesting properties, some of which have been spotlighted in the Daily Sun.

I was visiting a friend in a different neighborhood (North of 466) about a year ago and noticed that one neighbor had a wine bottle tree in his/her yard. They also had some other less conspicuous items of interest, such as a water fountain at their front door. Although, I personally wouldn't have a wine bottle tree, I still found it interesting if not somewhat pleasant. I realize that this is not something that you would consider "dragging down" the neighborhood value.

I too believe in rules, but in this case someone was "using" those rules as a tool in their agenda or to be vindictive. 30 complaints? I bet I could find something for them to be doing more entertaining than irritating the neighbors and the Community Standards police.

Bonny 07-20-2015 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1089635)
The lending institution can choose to ignore the demands of the compliance and the fines stack up. It happens everywhere. Thank Goodness not as often here as in other areas, but it still is frustrating.



But that technically isn't the issue we were discussing. We were discussing people being annoyed that they got a notice. A notice only comes if the person is non compliant, not on the whim of the complainer The complainer can say they don't like your curtains, but compliance can't send a note about that. It has to be something covered in the deed restrictions.

I realize what the thread was about. I was only commenting on some other things that were posted.

graciegirl 07-20-2015 03:25 PM

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    Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1089640)
    I assume that you noticed that the poster stated that there were at least 30 complaints made in the area by that person. You can pretty much surmise by that information that the complainant had an agenda, and was not in the spirit of "Friendly Neighborhood" correction.

    Other than abandoned or foreclosed homes going into disrepair, I have not seen any evidence in the Villages of neighborhoods being drug down. But, I have seen some pretty interesting properties, some of which have been spotlighted in the Daily Sun.

    I was visiting a friend in a different neighborhood (North of 466) about a year ago and noticed that one neighbor had a wine bottle tree in his/her yard. They also had some other less conspicuous items of interest, such as a water fountain at their front door. Although, I personally wouldn't have a wine bottle tree, I still found it interesting if not somewhat pleasant. I realize that this is not something that you would consider "dragging down" the neighborhood value.

    I too believe in rules, but in this case someone was "using" those rules as a tool in their agenda or to be vindictive. 30 complaints? I bet I could find something for them to be doing more entertaining than irritating the neighbors and the Community Standards police.







And therein lies the reason for deed restrictions. Apparently a wine bottle tree is allowed where you saw it. I would like to go on record as saying I don't think I would like a wine bottle tree or a beer bottle tree or a milk bottle tree, but hey, that is MY personal taste. None of them are allowed where we live, thank heavens .

Apparently where you live those things are allowed, so relax and enjoy them. Even if the serial yard reporter turned in that tree, it would be fine. People have a choice to live where they want in The Villages. I like strict deed restrictions.

Bavarian 07-20-2015 03:34 PM

Maybe a possible remedy would be for deed compliance to filter the complaints so that only real complaints go through. And try to check with homeowner to see if brown spots on lawn are their fault of loose dogs.

graciegirl 07-20-2015 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian (Post 1089649)
Maybe a possible remedy would be for deed compliance to filter the complaints so that only real complaints go through. And try to check with homeowner to see if brown spots on lawn are their fault of loose dogs.



Deed compliance only sends a letter if someone is out of compliance not just because someone complained. It has to be a an issue that is on the deed restriction, not just because someone bitched.

I apologize to everyone for being so upset and so direct about this. This is something that matters to me a lot, as you can see.

MDLNB 07-20-2015 03:57 PM

Perhaps, being one that has lived and visited several other countries and enjoyed or hazarded different cultures, I have more patience than some. Of course, I am probably not as "senior" as many in The Villages either. I try to keep my property looking as good or better than most in my neighborhood. I try to be a good neighbor and assist others when needed, since I still can. One person's junk is another person's treasure. Some folks like to display their imagination so that others can enjoy it. Perhaps the motto of "The Friendliest Home Town in America" is a misnomer? Or do we just have a few in some neighborhoods that need everything to be to THEIR liking or can't be flexible with other folks likes. Thank goodness for my neighborhood.

I agree with most of you that state that "rules are rules" but rules are not laws. I have seen laws violated in The Villages, with no one being concerned. But, let your grass grow a bit high or develop a grass fungus and you had better take care of it fast or someone may pounce on you in their due diligence.

I have been a bit facetious in my posts. I rarely participate in these, but the rain has kept me inside today away from my grill/smoker. I was really looking forward to some apple wood smoked, pulled pork. Oh well, I digress. I may have to gather up my best half and drive down to Oakwood to quench my craving for BBQ.

A wine bottle tree is not my personal taste either, but it didn't bother me in the slightest. It may have bothered their neighbors though. Some folks need something to bother them or they wouldn't feel alive. Stress can be very detrimental to your health.

I will bet that the poster's neighbors knew that she was attempting to repair her damaged lawn and therefore did not bother complaining. An empty flower pot? My snowbird neighbors left town for the summer, leaving several with dead plants in them. It's hardly worth being disturbed over.

To the poster that received the complaint, God Bless you. At least you know that the folks that deal with policing community standards are doing their part. Don't stress. Look at all that work that the complainant went through to agitate 30 other residents. Pray for that person. They have to be in a very unhappy place.

Polar Bear 07-20-2015 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1089655)
I apologize to everyone for being so upset and so direct about this. This is something that matters to me a lot, as you can see.

<furiously fans towel in gg's direction>

MDLNB 07-20-2015 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1089655)
Deed compliance only sends a letter if someone is out of compliance not just because someone complained. It has to be a an issue that is on the deed restriction, not just because someone bitched.

I apologize to everyone for being so upset and so direct about this. This is something that matters to me a lot, as you can see.

I can see that you are very concerned about this subject and I respect that. I see no reason for your apology. If anyone should apologize, it should be me for agitating some on by taking the "devil's advocate" side, so to speak. I see that you have been a member for quite some time and you have participated in hundreds of conversations. I value your experience and input and hope that I have not participated in muddying your day. God Bless you.

MDLNB 07-20-2015 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian (Post 1089649)
Maybe a possible remedy would be for deed compliance to filter the complaints so that only real complaints go through. And try to check with homeowner to see if brown spots on lawn are their fault of loose dogs.

Darn those dogs!! We didn't have that problem in Vietnam. They made a tasty meal when prepared properly. :mmmm:

dbussone 07-20-2015 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1089675)
Darn those dogs!! We didn't have that problem in Vietnam. They made a tasty meal when prepared properly. :mmmm:


Thank you for your service. (But please stay away from Harry - my dog.)

Barefoot 07-20-2015 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1089640)
I was visiting a friend in a different neighborhood (North of 466) about a year ago and noticed that one neighbor had a wine bottle tree in his/her yard. . Although, I personally wouldn't have a wine bottle tree, I still found it interesting if not somewhat pleasant. I realize that this is not something that you would consider "dragging down" the neighborhood value.

I'm trying to imagine a pleasant wine bottle tree. :shocked: Nope, can't visualize it.

Mama C 07-20-2015 04:39 PM

We bought in TV because properties are well kept--I myself want the deed restrictions and although I don't like to have to report violations --when you affect how I feel driving thru the area, I will do it--anonymously

Mama C 07-20-2015 04:41 PM

Deed compliance
 
We bought in TV because properties are well kept--I myself want the deed restrictions and although I don't like to have to report violations --when you affect how I feel driving thru the area, I will do it--anonymously--it's nothing against you personally, I just like my eye candy!

MDLNB 07-20-2015 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1089690)
I'm trying to imagine a pleasant wine bottle tree. :shocked: Nope, can't visualize it.

Hey, it was art. Where's your portent for diverse culture?..:wine:

MDLNB 07-20-2015 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1089683)
Thank you for your service. (But please stay away from Harry - my dog.)

No worry, I love animals. Smoked, sauteed, deep fried, with gravy...:mmmm:

We have pets also, so I empathize with the care and maintenance requirement. But, the life they give us as well as prolonging our life is priceless. But, I am still a carnivore...:pepper2:

MDLNB 07-20-2015 04:52 PM

One person's "eye candy" may be boring to others. Some like Rembrandt and others Picasso. I kind of favor Vargas.

Barefoot 07-20-2015 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1089695)
Where's your portent for diverse culture?..

I must be lacking in portent. :confused: I had to google it to find a meaning!
We are talking about whether a wine-bottle tree is a tasteful lawn ornament, right?
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por·tent
ˈpôrˌtent/
noun
noun: portent; plural noun: portents
1.
a sign or warning that something, especially something momentous or calamitous, is likely to happen.
"they believed that wild birds in the house were portents of death"

TheVillageChicken 07-20-2015 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1089701)
I must be lacking in portent. :confused: I had to google it to find a meaning!
We are talking about whether a wine-bottle tree is a tasteful lawn ornament, right?
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por·tent
ˈpôrˌtent/
noun
noun: portent; plural noun: portents
1.
a sign or warning that something, especially something momentous or calamitous, is likely to happen.
"they believed that wild birds in the house were portents of death"

I was born and raised in the land of bottle trees. They are not lawn ornaments, but rather ward off evil spirits. The spirits are attracted to the sparkling color of the bottles, blue ones seemingly more enticing. The moaning sound made by the wind as it passes over the bottle openings are proof that a spirit is trapped within.

Loudoll 07-20-2015 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1088443)
It has to be reported before Deed Compliance can act.

I have no sympathy for people trying to evade deed compliance. It is one of the main reasons many of us bought here..

Wholeheartedly agree and no, the complainer should not have to give his/her name. If there is no infraction, case closed.

MDLNB 07-20-2015 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1089701)
I must be lacking in portent. :confused: I had to google it to find a meaning!
We are talking about whether a wine-bottle tree is a tasteful lawn ornament, right?
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por·tent
ˈpôrˌtent/
noun
noun: portent; plural noun: portents
1.
a sign or warning that something, especially something momentous or calamitous, is likely to happen.
"they believed that wild birds in the house were portents of death"

Ouch! I meant to use the term "penchant." My bad. I didn't think that a Coors light (or two) would have that much effect. On the other hand, look at the positive side of my mistake. You paid attention to my ramblings. Thus, you have made my day...:mademyday:

CFrance 07-20-2015 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1089690)
I'm trying to imagine a pleasant wine bottle tree. :shocked: Nope, can't visualize it.

It would be one wherein the wine bottles are still full, waiting to be enjoyed.

dbussone 07-20-2015 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1089724)
It would be one wherein the wine bottles are still full, waiting to be enjoyed.


And in that case, the bottles are a portent of a lovely evening.

CFrance 07-20-2015 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1089725)
And in that case, the bottles are a portent of a lovely evening.

I have a penchant for that portent:wine:

Barefoot 07-20-2015 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 1089707)
I was born and raised in the land of bottle trees. They are not lawn ornaments, but rather ward off evil spirits. The spirits are attracted to the sparkling color of the bottles, blue ones seemingly more enticing. The moaning sound made by the wind as it passes over the bottle openings are proof that a spirit is trapped within.

You never fail to amaze me.

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1089724)
It would be one wherein the wine bottles are still full, waiting to be enjoyed.

In that case, I think wine-bottle trees should grow on everyone's lawn.

CFrance 07-20-2015 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1089747)
You never fail to amaze me.


In that case, I think wine-bottle trees should grow on everyone's lawn.

Especially if it's that kind of plant where if you pinch it back, it grows even more bottles.

dbussone 07-20-2015 07:26 PM

Deed Compliance
 
I just planted a nice empty bottle of Bordeaux on my side lawn. Can't wait for that tree to produce fruit. The cork was planted on the front lawn hoping for Beaujolais Nouveau to appear there. If this works, I'm planting an orchard.

CFrance 07-20-2015 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1089760)
I just planted a nice empty bottle of Bordeaux on my side lawn. Can't wait for that tree to produce fruit. The cork was planted on the front lawn hoping for Beaujolais Nouveau to appear there. If this works, I'm planting an orchard.

:a20:

DonH57 07-20-2015 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheVillageChicken (Post 1089707)
I was born and raised in the land of bottle trees. They are not lawn ornaments, but rather ward off evil spirits. The spirits are attracted to the sparkling color of the bottles, blue ones seemingly more enticing. The moaning sound made by the wind as it passes over the bottle openings are proof that a spirit is trapped within.

Excellent. I like this.:wave:


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