[Cedwards38]

I see the thread about the Villages News online service got closed. Who makes that call and based on what criteria?

A wise newspaper editor once set me straight when I contacted him to complain about lack of coverage of a local public school event. He said when things go well, that's not news because that is what is supposed to happen, and does happen nearly every day. News is when things do not go well or as they are supposed to happen.

SOME OBSERVATIONS:

(1) Seems that every time a thread gets the least bit controversial on TOTV it gets closed, because, heaven forbid, we might have different opinions and it would sound like argument, and someone might not be able to control their temper.

(2) I love the Dailly Sun, and will continue to subscribe to it for as long as I am a resident of TV, but they do not provide thorough reporting of the infrequent darker side of our community (sex on the square, neighbor against neighbor violence, alcohol and drug abuse, crime against residents, troublesome children living with residents, mental instability of some residents, etc). Truthfully, they do not provide any reporting of the darker side of our community. Do you want to know these things?

(3) WVLG AM. See # 2.

(4) The Villages is a wonderful place to live, but it is not perfect, and I do not want to be censored from information about our community, or the world, that some consider to be inconsistent with the model of perfection.

(5) It's not trashing our community to report the truth. That's what news people do. Maybe a headline might seem sensationalized, or not, but the real service of the media is telling the facts of what actually happened.

(6) Let's not "shoot the messenger." When we are exposed to something we don't want to hear, it is all too easy to blame the source of the information. The bad things in life are not because someone told you about them, but rather because they actually happened, and it's not the fault of the news media. If your community, your government, your political party, your political candidate, your religion, or your life in general is bad, it's not the fault of the source that told you about it. Just receive the facts and judge the facts, and make up your own mind.

(7) Finally, the world always seems biased to those who disagree.

[Kahuna32162]

IMHO the other thread was probably closed because a small group of posters had started to attack each other's views which had nothing to do with the OP. It's hot out there, what better things to some have to do right now then to stay inside and post.

[alwann]

Another old saying is news is what the editor says it is. More often, it is what the publisher says it is.

Many years ago I left my news reporting job to take a position as editor of a corporate publication. More money, benefits, etc. I clearly remember my new boss saying we run a newspaper, but it's based more on the Pravda model than the NY Times. I believe that same philosophy applies here. But, with social media and other sources, the truth always comes out.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Kahuna32162

IMHO the other thread was probably closed because a small group of posters had started to attack each other's views which had nothing to do with the OP. It's hot out there, what better things to some have to do right now then to stay inside and post.

Also don't overlook the power of a few complaints being sent to the powers that be.

[Bogie Shooter]

These are the "Breaking News" headlines on the other web site, August 1-5.
How do these stories effect ones life, one way or another?
If I missed reading any of them I wouldn't know that I had missed them.
Just what is the value..........................

Firefighters cut off van door to remove driver from wreckage
I75 near Bushnell

Pair arrested after police officer smells marijuana during traffic stop
North of Leesburg

Speeding driver on U.S. Hwy. 27/441 found to have suspended license
US27/441 near Rolling Acres

90-year-old Villager escapes injury in rear-end collision on County Road 466A

Wildwood woman arrested after caught driving on suspended license

K-9 assists in arrest of Fruitland Park woman on methamphetamine charge

Man arrested after alleged attack on woman at Wildwood motel

Man found to have meth in pocket after traffic stop on Sunset Harbor Road

Woman pleads for help from deputy after alleged attack by live-in boyfriend

58-year-old Fruitland Park man arrested after fight with woman

[Bonny]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

These are the "Breaking News" headlines on the other web site.
How do these stories effect ones life, one way or another?
If I missed reading any of them I wouldn't know that I had missed them.
Just what is the value..........................

Firefighters cut off van door to remove driver from wreckage
I75 near Bushnell

Pair arrested after police officer smells marijuana during traffic stop
North of Leesburg

Speeding driver on U.S. Hwy. 27/441 found to have suspended license
US27/441 near Rolling Acres

90-year-old Villager escapes injury in rear-end collision on County Road 466A

Wildwood woman arrested after caught driving on suspended license

K-9 assists in arrest of Fruitland Park woman on methamphetamine charge

Man arrested after alleged attack on woman at Wildwood motel

Man found to have meth in pocket after traffic stop on Sunset Harbor Road

Woman pleads for help from deputy after alleged attack by live-in boyfriend

58-year-old Fruitland Park man arrested after fight with woman

I also read the on line news.
I am a lover of the Villages, but not so blind sighted that I don't want to know what's going on around me. Good & bad things happen everywhere.
Yes, they print the "kool-aid" "developer's greed" stories. If I don't want to read those, I scroll on by.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Cedwards38

I see the thread about the Villages News online service got closed. Who makes that call and based on what criteria?

A wise newspaper editor once set me straight when I contacted him to complain about lack of coverage of a local public school event. He said when things go well, that's not news because that is what is supposed to happen, and does happen nearly every day. News is when things do not go well or as they are supposed to happen.

SOME OBSERVATIONS:

(1) Seems that every time a thread gets the least bit controversial on TOTV it gets closed, because, heaven forbid, we might have different opinions and it would sound like argument, and someone might not be able to control their temper.

(2) I love the Dailly Sun, and will continue to subscribe to it for as long as I am a resident of TV, but they do not provide thorough reporting of the infrequent darker side of our community (sex on the square, neighbor against neighbor violence, alcohol and drug abuse, crime against residents, troublesome children living with residents, mental instability of some residents, etc). Truthfully, they do not provide any reporting of the darker side of our community. Do you want to know these things?

(3) WVLG AM. See # 2.

(4) The Villages is a wonderful place to live, but it is not perfect, and I do not want to be censored from information about our community, or the world, that some consider to be inconsistent with the model of perfection.

(5) It's not trashing our community to report the truth. That's what news people do. Maybe a headline might seem sensationalized, or not, but the real service of the media is telling the facts of what actually happened.

(6) Let's not "shoot the messenger." When we are exposed to something we don't want to hear, it is all too easy to blame the source of the information. The bad things in life are not because someone told you about them, but rather because they actually happened, and it's not the fault of the news media. If your community, your government, your political party, your political candidate, your religion, or your life in general is bad, it's not the fault of the source that told you about it. Just receive the facts and judge the facts, and make up your own mind.

(7) Finally, the world always seems biased to those who disagree.

Excellent post. We must have a new moderator.

[Bonny]

Originally Posted by Cedwards38

I see the thread about the Villages News online service got closed. Who makes that call and based on what criteria?

A wise newspaper editor once set me straight when I contacted him to complain about lack of coverage of a local public school event. He said when things go well, that's not news because that is what is supposed to happen, and does happen nearly every day. News is when things do not go well or as they are supposed to happen.

SOME OBSERVATIONS:

(1) Seems that every time a thread gets the least bit controversial on TOTV it gets closed, because, heaven forbid, we might have different opinions and it would sound like argument, and someone might not be able to control their temper.

(2) I love the Dailly Sun, and will continue to subscribe to it for as long as I am a resident of TV, but they do not provide thorough reporting of the infrequent darker side of our community (sex on the square, neighbor against neighbor violence, alcohol and drug abuse, crime against residents, troublesome children living with residents, mental instability of some residents, etc). Truthfully, they do not provide any reporting of the darker side of our community. Do you want to know these things?

(3) WVLG AM. See # 2.

(4) The Villages is a wonderful place to live, but it is not perfect, and I do not want to be censored from information about our community, or the world, that some consider to be inconsistent with the model of perfection.

(5) It's not trashing our community to report the truth. That's what news people do. Maybe a headline might seem sensationalized, or not, but the real service of the media is telling the facts of what actually happened.

(6) Let's not "shoot the messenger." When we are exposed to something we don't want to hear, it is all too easy to blame the source of the information. The bad things in life are not because someone told you about them, but rather because they actually happened, and it's not the fault of the news media. If your community, your government, your political party, your political candidate, your religion, or your life in general is bad, it's not the fault of the source that told you about it. Just receive the facts and judge the facts, and make up your own mind.

(7) Finally, the world always seems biased to those who disagree.

One of the best posts I've read !!

[gerryann]

I don't believe (in the original post) that anyone was complaining about the online paper itself. Tha complaints came regarding the sleazy way that the "reporting" was done. And I personally don't like the way they repost over and over on Facebook with the nasty mug shots....over and over. And I certainly realize that I don't have to open those links up and I certainly realize that I don't have to read the online news source. I and others are simply saying they report things in an unprofessional, sleazy manner with misspellings, poor grammar, etc, etc.

Other folks from all over the country who may(or may not) be interested in moving here, read this garbage. It does absolutely no justice to the community. I'm tired of folks back home assuming we are a bunch of VD infected, sex obsessed drunks. Remember how long it took to get the VD stories to (somewhat) go away? Then the "sex on the squares" and utility boxes, then a murder in the square? A small blurb on page 23 in the Sun is all that is needed...not a barrage of smutty articles over and over in this online rag.

[TOTV Team]

Thanks for asking this question regarding threads being closed. The moderators attempt to follow the site rules as close as possible when moderating.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...p?pageid=rules

When a thread has numerous users violating site guidelines in many cases the entire thread will be closed due to the amount of time it would take to address excessive rule violations. A thread can also be closed when if it has gone off track of the original thread to such an extent it isn't relavant to the original topic any longer and too time consuming to sort.

I would challenge any user to find a thread that was closed where the site rules were not violated and there were excessive users/comments involved. Also know that when users are violating rules we address those issues privately. We don't feel that it is respectful to publicly criticize or share corrective actions or conversations we have with users.

As always thanks for your support!

TOTV Team

[bbbbbb]

Originally Posted by Cedwards38

I see the thread about the Villages News online service got closed. Who makes that call and based on what criteria?

A wise newspaper editor once set me straight when I contacted him to complain about lack of coverage of a local public school event. He said when things go well, that's not news because that is what is supposed to happen, and does happen nearly every day. News is when things do not go well or as they are supposed to happen.

SOME OBSERVATIONS:

(1) Seems that every time a thread gets the least bit controversial on TOTV it gets closed, because, heaven forbid, we might have different opinions and it would sound like argument, and someone might not be able to control their temper.

(2) I love the Dailly Sun, and will continue to subscribe to it for as long as I am a resident of TV, but they do not provide thorough reporting of the infrequent darker side of our community (sex on the square, neighbor against neighbor violence, alcohol and drug abuse, crime against residents, troublesome children living with residents, mental instability of some residents, etc). Truthfully, they do not provide any reporting of the darker side of our community. Do you want to know these things?

(3) WVLG AM. See # 2.

(4) The Villages is a wonderful place to live, but it is not perfect, and I do not want to be censored from information about our community, or the world, that some consider to be inconsistent with the model of perfection.

(5) It's not trashing our community to report the truth. That's what news people do. Maybe a headline might seem sensationalized, or not, but the real service of the media is telling the facts of what actually happened.

(6) Let's not "shoot the messenger." When we are exposed to something we don't want to hear, it is all too easy to blame the source of the information. The bad things in life are not because someone told you about them, but rather because they actually happened, and it's not the fault of the news media. If your community, your government, your political party, your political candidate, your religion, or your life in general is bad, it's not the fault of the source that told you about it. Just receive the facts and judge the facts, and make up your own mind.

(7) Finally, the world always seems biased to those who disagree.

VERY GOOD POST
The best Engineering manager I ever worked for would say in meetings: Please do not come in here and tell me all the good things that are working, those items speak for themselves and they do show well. What I want to hear is what are the problems and what are you doing to correct them. Very good.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by bbbbbb

VERY GOOD POST
The best Engineering manager I ever worked for would say in meetings: Please do not come in here and tell me all the good things that are working, those items speak for themselves and they do show well. What I want to hear is what are the problems and what are you doing to correct them. Very good.

And your Engineering manager was correct. However at a sales meeting, people are encouraged to share their successes.

If you are a teacher of small children you try to encourage and reward good behavior. If you are a teacher of teens, you try to...I don't know, I would have smacked them. I liked teaching little ones.

If you are a parent you try to balance the heavy job of directing those put into your trust from doing harm and try to have them live successful lives independent from you. You have to be harsh at times, but it must be balanced with hugs and honest praise.

If you are a neighbor, you need to think long and hard before you are critical. You will be living there and attending parties and events. It could be uncomfortable if you point out that they have terrible taste with their bending over plump lady cut out in the front yard.

If you are on a Forum you can be anonymous and even make things up. People don't know if you are an alcoholic, a drug user, someone who works for a competing business, a disgruntled employee, someone who has been thrown off the forum a dozen times, someone that the police visit their home a lot.... Or a nice normal person.

I don't think you should shoot the messenger, especially an unknown new messenger, but having been a teacher, a parent, in sales, a neighbor and have met a lot of good people and a few rascals, I see nothing wrong with probing for more information if someone is making a statement of fact unknown to most of us.

[Buffalo Jim]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

And your Engineering manager was correct. However at a sales meeting, people are encouraged to share their successes.

If you are a teacher of small children you try to encourage and reward good behavior. If you are a teacher of teens, you try to...I don't know, I would have smacked them. I liked teaching little ones.

If you are a parent you try to balance the heavy job of directing those put into your trust from doing harm and try to have them live successful lives independent from you. You have to be harsh at times, but it must be balanced with hugs and honest praise.

If you are a neighbor, you need to think long and hard before you are critical. You will be living there and attending parties and events. It could be uncomfortable if you point out that they have terrible taste with their bending over plump lady cut out in the front yard.

If you are on a Forum you can be anonymous and even make things up. People don't know if you are an alcoholic, a drug user, someone who works for a competing business, a disgruntled employee, someone who has been thrown off the forum a dozen times, someone that the police visit their home a lot.... Or a nice normal person.

I don't think you should shoot the messenger, especially an unknown new messenger, but having been a teacher, a parent, in sales, a neighbor and have met a lot of good people and a few rascals, I see nothing wrong with probing for more information if someone is making a statement of fact unknown to most of us.

Well stated !

[Bonny]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

And your Engineering manager was correct. However at a sales meeting, people are encouraged to share their successes.

If you are a teacher of small children you try to encourage and reward good behavior. If you are a teacher of teens, you try to...I don't know, I would have smacked them. I liked teaching little ones.

If you are a parent you try to balance the heavy job of directing those put into your trust from doing harm and try to have them live successful lives independent from you. You have to be harsh at times, but it must be balanced with hugs and honest praise.

If you are a neighbor, you need to think long and hard before you are critical. You will be living there and attending parties and events. It could be uncomfortable if you point out that they have terrible taste with their bending over plump lady cut out in the front yard.

If you are on a Forum you can be anonymous and even make things up. People don't know if you are an alcoholic, a drug user, someone who works for a competing business, a disgruntled employee, someone who has been thrown off the forum a dozen times, someone that the police visit their home a lot.... Or a nice normal person.

I don't think you should shoot the messenger, especially an unknown new messenger, but having been a teacher, a parent, in sales, a neighbor and have met a lot of good people and a few rascals, I see nothing wrong with probing for more information if someone is making a statement of fact unknown to most of us.

Totally agree.

[rubicon]

Originally Posted by Cedwards38

I see the thread about the Villages News online service got closed. Who makes that call and based on what criteria?

A wise newspaper editor once set me straight when I contacted him to complain about lack of coverage of a local public school event. He said when things go well, that's not news because that is what is supposed to happen, and does happen nearly every day. News is when things do not go well or as they are supposed to happen.

SOME OBSERVATIONS:

(1) Seems that every time a thread gets the least bit controversial on TOTV it gets closed, because, heaven forbid, we might have different opinions and it would sound like argument, and someone might not be able to control their temper.

(2) I love the Dailly Sun, and will continue to subscribe to it for as long as I am a resident of TV, but they do not provide thorough reporting of the infrequent darker side of our community (sex on the square, neighbor against neighbor violence, alcohol and drug abuse, crime against residents, troublesome children living with residents, mental instability of some residents, etc). Truthfully, they do not provide any reporting of the darker side of our community. Do you want to know these things?

(3) WVLG AM. See # 2.

(4) The Villages is a wonderful place to live, but it is not perfect, and I do not want to be censored from information about our community, or the world, that some consider to be inconsistent with the model of perfection.

(5) It's not trashing our community to report the truth. That's what news people do. Maybe a headline might seem sensationalized, or not, but the real service of the media is telling the facts of what actually happened.

(6) Let's not "shoot the messenger." When we are exposed to something we don't want to hear, it is all too easy to blame the source of the information. The bad things in life are not because someone told you about them, but rather because they actually happened, and it's not the fault of the news media. If your community, your government, your political party, your political candidate, your religion, or your life in general is bad, it's not the fault of the source that told you about it. Just receive the facts and judge the facts, and make up your own mind.

(7) Finally, the world always seems biased to those who disagree.

Cewards: I saw what you did Shut out on a thread just start another to keep it going so kool that's one of those "I won't be denied moments"