[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

As a test, I would eliminate all gates arms at the four gates that allow access to the villages south of 466A between Buena Vista and Morse road. As most residents in these areas are newer villagers, they would not be as set in their ways as other residents. I think it is a pain to wait for a gate to open. What�s the purpose other than that�s how it�s done in the Villages?

As far as golf carts go, they seem to move right along at the entrances to Lake Sumter off of Morse and Buena Vista. Pictures can still be taken of all cars going through the open gates. Gate keepers can�t deny access to these areas as the roads are public. I would like to see no gate arms while driving to my house in The Village of Lake Deaton. Let�s try a change to see what happens.

" I think it is a pain to wait for a gate to open." Why the big hurry? Leave early to wherever you are going the pain will go away.
I travel those highlighted entrances...........both are dangerous, because people in carts are always in a hurry.
BTW you did see all the gates before you bought and moved to the villages, didn't you?

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

I would like to look at the golf cart accident statistics for the golf cart crossings of Buena Vista at Old Mill and Morse at Lake Sumter. Is there a problem there with no gate arms? Maybe gate arms should be at all road intersections to help golf carts?

I do believe that gates are a marketing tool for the developer and thus probably will not be entirely eliminated.

Or not eliminated at all.............................

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

Or not eliminated at all.............................

Why change stuff? First twoplane wanted slower than twenty mph speed limits for carts ....

[zonerboy]

If gates are ever eliminated because of repair expense or any other excuse, then I would suggest they be replaced by a great big honkin' speed bump that would seriously rattle your chassis if negotiated at a speed greater than 4 mph. That should be sufficient to slow auto and truck traffic so that golf carts can safely cross the busiest of residential entrances.

[twoplanekid]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Why change stuff? First twoplane wanted slower than twenty mph speed limits for carts ....

Please read all of my post to find that I never proposed "slower than twenty mph speed limits for cars ...."

As golf carts are used on most roads in TV, why is there this concern with these gate crossings? Is there something special about these gate crossings and not others as I have questioned those at Late Sumter that don’t have gates to slow down cars? As the gates are not security gates, I don’t understand the need to force cars to stop. At all other road crossings in TV, golf cart wait their turn and then proceed. What is the importance at these particular road intersections for golf carts to make cars stop and not others?

Why change stuff? I am happy to see many things change and yet others remain the same. It depends ! If gates do or don't change will not make or break my day.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

Please read all of my post to find that I never proposed "slower than twenty mph speed limits for cars ...."

As golf carts are used on most roads in TV, why is there this concern with these gate crossings? Is there something special about these gate crossings and not others as I have questioned those at Late Sumter that don�t have gates to slow down cars? As the gates are not security gates, I don�t understand the need to force cars to stop. At all other road crossings in TV, golf cart wait their turn and then proceed. What is the importance at these particular road intersections for golf carts to make cars stop and not others?

Why change stuff? I am happy to see many things change and yet others remain the same. It depends ! If gates do or don't change will not make or break my day.

Golf carts as a traveling machine

[twoplanekid]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

Golf carts as a traveling machine

Thanks for providing this link which verifies what I said!

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by zonerboy

If gates are ever eliminated because of repair expense or any other excuse, then I would suggest they be replaced by a great big honkin' speed bump that would seriously rattle your chassis if negotiated at a speed greater than 4 mph. That should be sufficient to slow auto and truck traffic so that golf carts can safely cross the busiest of residential entrances.

That would be a great experiment. It sounds like it might work.

I remember some neighborhood back home that had gravel and potholes. The neighbors complained, the road got fixed and then they realized the cars were going too fast on the new surface to feel safe walking or playing on the street.

[Marathon Man]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

I would like to look at the golf cart accident statistics for the golf cart crossings of Buena Vista at Old Mill and Morse at Lake Sumter. Is there a problem there with no gate arms? Maybe gate arms should be at all road intersections to help golf carts?

I do believe that gates are a marketing tool for the developer and thus probably will not be entirely eliminated.

These two crossings are very different than the gated entrances to the villages. Removing the gates would be dangerous. Unless the suggestion is to also remove all landscaping, signs, gatehouses and all other items that obstruct the ability of a cart driver to see an oncoming car. The gates were designed to be what they are. You can't just change one part of the design and expect an improvement.

[twoplanekid]

Originally Posted by Marathon Man

These two crossings are very different than the gated entrances to the villages. Removing the gates would be dangerous. Unless the suggestion is to also remove all landscaping, signs, gatehouses and all other items that obstruct the ability of a cart driver to see an oncoming car. The gates were designed to be what they are. You can't just change one part of the design and expect an improvement.

These two crossing are very busy as they lead to a popular place. In what other ways are they different? The entrance to Hillsborough off of Morse doesn�t have a guard shack. The two new entrances on Moyer Loop(Pine Hills & Pine Ridge) require golf carts to merge with car traffic well before the gates, don�t have guard shacks and yet they still have gate arms. What is the purpose for these gate arms?

[Bogie Shooter]

I have concluded, right or wrong, some folks have too much time on their hands............................

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

These two crossing are very busy as they lead to a popular place. In what other ways are they different? The entrance to Hillsborough off of Morse doesn�t have a guard shack. The two new entrances on Moyer Loop(Pine Hills & Pine Ridge) require golf carts to merge with car traffic well before the gates, don�t have guard shacks and yet they still have gate arms. What is the purpose for these gate arms?

The terms "watch and wait" and "stop to smell the roses" come to mind.

[Doctommft]

An attorney's dream.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by Doctommft

An attorney's dream.

What??

[Walter123]

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter

What??

HE SAID "AN ATTORNEY'S DREAM" lol