[TOTV Newbie]

Should we get our own Realtor to buy in The Villages or is it best to deal directly with a sales agent?

Thx

[JoMar]

If you want to purchase a new home you will need TV sales agent. If you want to look at pre-owned you want to get a an outside realator. TV sales agent can sell new and pre-owned that are listed with them. To see all the pre-owned available you need both TV sales agent and an MLS agent.

[Bryan]

Real Estate Agents typically represent the seller. You would be wise to get a "Buyers Agent" to represent you as the Buyer. Normally, the Buyers Agent splits the sales commission with the Selling Agent so it actually does not cost you and you have someone dedicated to looking out for your interests. Any licensed Real Estate Agent can be a Buyers Agent but some specialize in that field.

[Mrs. Robinson]

Originally Posted by Bryan

Real Estate Agents typically represent the seller. You would be wise to get a "Buyers Agent" to represent you as the Buyer. Normally, the Buyers Agent splits the sales commission with the Selling Agent so it actually does not cost you and you have someone dedicated to looking out for your interests. Any licensed Real Estate Agent can be a Buyers Agent but some specialize in that field.

Sorry, but you are wrong. Real estate agents do not typically or necessarily represent a buyer or a seller, for that matter.

As a Realtor/agent for over 30 years, I and 99% of the Realtors I have worked with, have worked as a transaction agent. A transaction agent, to save words and make it simple to understand, is simply that we deal fairly and honestly with both parties. There is full disclosure to both parties regarding known details about the property.

I and those I have worked with have never found it necessary to work as a buyer's agent. Your advice that "would be wise to get a buyer's agent" is intimating that an agent who works as a transaction agent is dishonest. Nothing could be farther from the truth!

Commissions are not split between the agents. By law, commissions are paid to the broker and an agent will receive his/her split from the broker.

Realtors are members of their local Board of Realtors as well as the National Association of Realtors and abide to the Code of Ethics as set forth by the National Assn. of Realtors. Villages' agents are not Realtors; they are agents only and consequently, none of the above applies to them.

[outlaw]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson

Sorry, but you are wrong. Real estate agents do not typically or necessarily represent a buyer or a seller, for that matter.

As a Realtor/agent for over 30 years, I and 99% of the Realtors I have worked with, have worked as a transaction agent. A transaction agent, to save words and make it simple to understand, is simply that we deal fairly and honestly with both parties. There is full disclosure to both parties regarding known details about the property.

I and those I have worked with have never found it necessary to work as a buyer's agent. Your advice that "would be wise to get a buyer's agent" is intimating that an agent who works as a transaction agent is dishonest. Nothing could be farther from the truth!

Commissions are not split between the agents. By law, commissions are paid to the broker and an agent will receive his/her split from the broker.

Realtors are members of their local Board of Realtors as well as the National Association of Realtors and abide to the Code of Ethics as set forth by the National Assn. of Realtors. Villages' agents are not Realtors; they are agents only and consequently, none of the above applies to them.

There's a reason we now have full disclosure laws for the real estate industry. I have dealt with numerous RE agents over my life and can recall many instances of less than full honest transactions. Sorry, but your industry is no more honest than the auto dealerships or the financial industry. Just a few examples; "buy now before the build out is complete", selling seven year old rental homes as "new" homes, daily advertisements for new homes with prices NOT including the several thousand dollars bond.

[Mrs. Robinson]

Originally Posted by outlaw

There's a reason we now have full disclosure laws for the real estate industry. I have dealt with numerous RE agents over my life and can recall many instances of less than full honest transactions. Sorry, but your industry is no more honest than the auto dealerships or the financial industry. Just a few examples; "buy now before the build out is complete", selling seven year old rental homes as "new" homes, daily advertisements for new homes with prices NOT including the several thousand dollars bond.

Full disclosure laws have been in effect for many, many years. These laws are nothing new. As a matter of fact, both buyer and seller should be signing a seller's disclosure. The form is a legal document in the event a problem arises regarding what is stated about the property.

I don't know in what field you were employed, but I can guarantee there were some undesirables working in your field also. So let's get beyond that those who work in one specific field lie more than another. I've never heard of anyone selling a 7 year old rental home as new, and there are laws that protect buyers from those kind of lies.

In The Villages, I have not seen a house for sale that included the bond unless it was so stated in the listing. That isn't such a big deal because the bond is part of full disclosure. Most people don't even know what the balance is of their bond!

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by JoMar

If you want to purchase a new home you will need TV sales agent. If you want to look at pre-owned you want to get a an outside realtor. TV sales agent can sell new and pre-owned that are listed with them. To see all the pre-owned available you need both TV sales agent and an MLS agent.

I agree.

[spofford]

Have bought properties with and without realtor. It depends how comfortable you are in reviewing all paperwork. To see all properties for sale, you will need a Villages agent, Independent agent, and individuals for sale by owners. All new properties are Villages only. Same Villages agent can do new and used on Villages listed properties.

Have fun and don't stress. There was and still may true, all Villagers own 3 homes. So this is only your first.

[retiredguy123]

The whole concept of a "buyers agent" is deceptive. The seller of a house pays the entire commission to the listing broker. Therefore, all agents involved in the transaction, who share in the commission, work for and are paid by the seller. The buyer pays nothing and gets nothing in terms of real contractual "agency" representation. If the real estate industry wants to honestly promote the buyers agent concept, then they need to develop contracts that require the buyer and the seller to pay separate commissions or fees for services rendered.

[vbsheriff]

You are getting some confusing and inaccurate info on previous posts. Dual agents are not allowed on Florida. Best source of accurate info will be a Florida Real Estate / Land Use attorney.

[bbbbbb]

[QUOTE=TOTV Newbie;1312998]Should we get our own Realtor to buy in The Villages or is it best to deal directly with a sales agent?

From bbbbbb:

Here is our take on this and it worked well for us in many Realty deals here and elsewhere.
1. Contact and review with a Village Agent
2. Contact and review with an outside Realtor, Remax, Grizzard, Executive etc.
3. Contact the For Sale by owner on this or on their own website.
4. Buy a lot and have the home of your dreams built, caution, buy a case of Aspirin pills for this one.

That way you get total coverage, will probably learn the most of what you need to do.
We think it is most important,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Get to know the area, and settle on that item first. AREA!!
Decide on a home or Villa as to what is best for you.
We have had 12 homes, mostly elsewhere and have done the items listed above. Take your time and do what is best for you and your family. Probably best to not take too much stock in what you may be TOLD.
And,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, get a big tablet, list what you want and then go after the many challenges to get it as you want and try to protect your sanity and blood pressure. So,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, TAKE YOUR TIME AND BE PATIENT.

bbbbbb and Mrs. bbbbbb

[ColdNoMore]

Originally Posted by TOTV Newbie

Should we get our own Realtor to buy in The Villages or is it best to deal directly with a sales agent?

Thx

Hire both...totally trust neither.

Don't be afraid to ask tough questions and hold the agents accountable for giving you an answer...in writing if necessary.

The minute you ask them to put in writing what they've verbally told you (expansions/adding a pool/guaranteed 'views'/etc.), is when you'll start to get a hint on where their loyalties actually lie.

Just remember, they get paid for selling a house...not for total honesty or being your friend.

Good luck.

[John_W]

Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson

...I've never heard of anyone selling a 7 year old rental home as new, and there are laws that protect buyers from those kind of lies.

The Villages - Search for New, Pre-owned Homes and Villas in The Villages, Florida

If you go to this link you will see what Outlaw was referencing, or as an unsuspecting buyer going on 'thevillages.com' 'homes for sale', then 'new homes', then 'lake sumter area' you would find 18 CYV (Courtyard Villas) for sale, which is where the link will take you. Most everyone who's been in TV (The Villages) for a time and or might have even stayed on a LSV (Lifestyle Visit) at one of these homes, will know they are 7 years old. Since you're newer, you might have stayed at Alden Bungalows on a LSV, just imagine 6 years from now Alden Bungalows will be listed as new homes for sale.

[VillagerNut]

Originally Posted by outlaw

There's a reason we now have full disclosure laws for the real estate industry. I have dealt with numerous RE agents over my life and can recall many instances of less than full honest transactions. Sorry, but your industry is no more honest than the auto dealerships or the financial industry. Just a few examples; "buy now before the build out is complete", selling seven year old rental homes as "new" homes, daily advertisements for new homes with prices NOT including the several thousand dollars bond.

And what you are describing has nothing to do with an independent Realtors here! The disclosure laws are only enforced for Realtors! Yes I did see courtyards being sold as new when they're 7 to 8 years old! But they are not listed with a Realtor!

[LitespeedRider]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I like the kind of people that is not a problem to.

And then....their kid get parole and moves in....