[Carlsondm]

Originally Posted by jswirs

I think we need to add a power saw to your list, they make lots of noise as well.

I think ours had a gas chain saw also. Plus he likes to mow early next to our property. Real early.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by NoMo50

Not correct on both levels. A new member at the Woodshops pays an initiation fee of $200, plus the first year dues of $75. Annual dues of $75 are payable each year. For a host of reasons, there are members every year who elect not to renew their membership. For those who use the shops, it is a real bargain, as opposed to purchasing, storing, and maintaining equipment in their homes.

Additionally, Villages residents (non members) pay NOTHING in regard to the Woodshops. The shops are run and supported by member dues and fees, and volunteer member labor. The only paid employee at both shops is the janitor.

The physical shop itself is paid for with amenity fees. Only members are allowed to use it - it is not open to all villagers, there are no "open hours" for use. The building was constructed and paid for by amenity fees, not membership dues.

Compare to the archery club: they have a workshop building, which is only accessible to club members. However, the archery range itself is open to all villagers, with no extra fee required. In addition, the club members have the responsibility of "stewardship" of the range. They also avail themselves to any archer on the range who seeks assistance, and offers group instruction on the basics of archery, again open to all Villagers with no fees at all.

The building was built courtesy of our amenity fees, and the club members, by BEING members, do the community a public service through instruction, assistance, and stewardship of the range.

The woodworking club members go into their clubhouse, which no one else can go into, and do everything inside there, and do - or not do - whatever they want with their finished products. They don't teach non-club-members anything, they're not stewards of some greater property. There's also a waiting list, and the only time a new member is allowed to join is when someone else quits or dies. With the archery club. the entirety of the Villages' 150,000-resident community is welcome to be members. And the dues are only $15/year.

The archery workshop is primarily a repair shop, and also stores and maintains generic bows and arrows for members who don't own their own equipment. They also set the targets out to the range - which again, is available for ALL villagers, not just club members.

[RicNic]

Wow!! I really opened up my question to a lot of discussion. Your responses were overwhelming. Actually they do make patio villas with a two car, one golf cart floor plan. it’s called the Emerald. And yes it would new construction. I most definitely would be considerate to my neighbors I wouldn’t want to offend anyone. As a hobby I wouldn’t be using the shop often, so the noise would be limited. As one of the other bloggers mentioned I would also insulate the shop for noise reduction. Being a voice actor I understand the need for noise isolation. I wouldn’t want any noise distractions ruining my recordings, as i would be recording an audio book. Yes I am aware of the Woodworkers club, in fact that is what drew me to the thought of moving to TV’s. I did come across a You Tube video by Jerry an Linda the Newcomers, showing a very impressive tour of the Brownwood Woodworkers club. WOW! I guess you could say some people move here for the golf courses. I’d move here for the woodworking clubs and also a nice place for me and my wife to retire to.I would definitely join the club, but on my downtime from the club I could work on a project at home. Thank you for all your input.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by RicNic

Wow!! I really opened up my question to a lot of discussion. Your responses were overwhelming. Actually they do make patio villas with a two car, one golf cart floor plan. it’s called the Emerald. And yes it would new construction. I most definitely would be considerate to my neighbors I wouldn’t want to offend anyone. As a hobby I wouldn’t be using the shop often, so the noise would be limited. As one of the other bloggers mentioned I would also insulate the shop for noise reduction. Being a voice actor I understand the need for noise isolation. I wouldn’t want any noise distractions ruining my recordings, as i would be recording an audio book. Yes I am aware of the Woodworkers club, in fact that is what drew me to the thought of moving to TV’s. I did come across a You Tube video by Jerry an Linda the Newcomers, showing a very impressive tour of the Brownwood Woodworkers club. WOW! I guess you could say some people move here for the golf courses. I’d move here for the woodworking clubs and also a nice place for me and my wife to retire to.I would definitely join the club, but on my downtime from the club I could work on a project at home. Thank you for all your input.

You mean you would definitely get on the waiting list to join the club, and possibly need to wait a few years to actually join it because of so many other people ahead of you in line.

[Velvet]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The physical shop itself is paid for with amenity fees. Only members are allowed to use it - it is not open to all villagers, there are no "open hours" for use. The building was constructed and paid for by amenity fees, not membership dues.

Compare to the archery club: they have a workshop building, which is only accessible to club members. However, the archery range itself is open to all villagers, with no extra fee required. In addition, the club members have the responsibility of "stewardship" of the range. They also avail themselves to any archer on the range who seeks assistance, and offers group instruction on the basics of archery, again open to all Villagers with no fees at all.

The building was built courtesy of our amenity fees, and the club members, by BEING members, do the community a public service through instruction, assistance, and stewardship of the range.

The woodworking club members go into their clubhouse, which no one else can go into, and do everything inside there, and do - or not do - whatever they want with their finished products. They don't teach non-club-members anything, they're not stewards of some greater property. There's also a waiting list, and the only time a new member is allowed to join is when someone else quits or dies. With the archery club. the entirety of the Villages' 150,000-resident community is welcome to be members. And the dues are only $15/year.

The archery workshop is primarily a repair shop, and also stores and maintains generic bows and arrows for members who don't own their own equipment. They also set the targets out to the range - which again, is available for ALL villagers, not just club members.

I’ve put myself on the waiting list 2 years ago for the woodwork shop, and I’ve been asked to fill out the same forms twice and then heard nothing back. I suspect it is because there is some powerful tools being used, safety is a high concern. Just like you can’t drive without a license they need to feel sure that you can use things safely. I need introduction to these tools. My background in engineering exposed me to many possibly hazardous equipment in the various labs we had to take. But so far I don’t qualify to take the introductory sessions. Still waiting….

My mother used the archery range you are talking about. She got her photo in the Daily Sun about 20 years ago? for being the oldest archer at the club. She was sooo proud of it .

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by Velvet

I’ve put myself on the waiting list 2 years ago and I’ve been asked to fill out the same forms twice and then heard nothing. I suspect it is because there is some powerful tools being used, safety is a high concern. Just like you can’t drive without a license they need to feel sure that you can use things safely. I need introduction to these tools. My background in engineering exposed me to many possibly hazardous equipment in the various labs we had to take. But so far I don’t qualify to take the introductory sessions. Still waiting….

My mother used the archery range you are talking about. She got her photo in the Daily Sun about 20 years ago? for being the oldest archer at the club. She was sooo proud of it .

That's the thing though. Knowing /why/ you can't just join the club and start enjoying the workshop doesn't help you get to it any quicker.

Knowing WHY you aren't allowed to just walk in and use it during "open shop" hours or "open sign-up" hours, because they don't HAVE any of those, doesn't make the expense of building the workshop cease to come out of your amenity fees.

You paid for it. And you aren't allowed to use it at all. That is the reality of the situation, until you become a member.

[justjim]

Originally Posted by cherylncliff

I have a shop in my garage including table saw, drill press, band saw, router table and power miter saw as well as an assortment of power hand tools. I have been making furniture and toys for the last 12 years and have not had any issues. I generally work between 10AM and 3PM. I clean up at the end of each day and dispose of the sawdust and wood scraps in the trash. During the summer it does get rather hot and humid. My table saw has a cast iron top which I periodically wax with a paste wax and I keep it covered with a heavy, cloth drop cloth to keep it from rusting.

I wouldn’t mind at all having you as a neighbor.. Your hobby hours are close to mine. But as I have often said, “you can choose your house but not your neighbor.”

[KAM+6]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

The physical shop itself is paid for with amenity fees. Only members are allowed to use it - it is not open to all villagers, there are no "open hours" for use. The building was constructed and paid for by amenity fees, not membership dues.

Compare to the archery club: they have a workshop building, which is only accessible to club members. However, the archery range itself is open to all villagers, with no extra fee required. In addition, the club members have the responsibility of "stewardship" of the range. They also avail themselves to any archer on the range who seeks assistance, and offers group instruction on the basics of archery, again open to all Villagers with no fees at all.

The building was built courtesy of our amenity fees, and the club members, by BEING members, do the community a public service through instruction, assistance, and stewardship of the range.

The woodworking club members go into their clubhouse, which no one else can go into, and do everything inside there, and do - or not do - whatever they want with their finished products. They don't teach non-club-members anything, they're not stewards of some greater property. There's also a waiting list, and the only time a new member is allowed to join is when someone else quits or dies. With the archery club. the entirety of the Villages' 150,000-resident community is welcome to be members. And the dues are only $15/year.

The archery workshop is primarily a repair shop, and also stores and maintains generic bows and arrows for members who don't own their own equipment. They also set the targets out to the range - which again, is available for ALL villagers, not just club members.

NO No NO. You become a member when you complete Certification process. They have over 1300 members and you do NOT wait for someone to die or give up their membership. You are giving MISINFORMATION. You can not just walk in the insurance requires 2 days of instruction to operate dangerous tools. I just received an email requiring face shields along with safety glasses. This weekend there were 4 accidents 1 taken to the hospital and 1 distant person was hit in the back with a flying piece of wood. 2 others were also injured.

The waiting list for certification is back up because they can only do so many at a time. Again, nobody has to DIE or give up their membership. You just ha e to complete your certification to become a member. This is a insurance requirement.

[thelegges]

Originally Posted by KAM+6

NO No NO. You become a member when you complete Certification process. They have over 1300 members and you do NOT wait for someone to die or give up their membership. You are giving MISINFORMATION. You can not just walk in the insurance requires 2 days of instruction to operate dangerous tools. I just received an email requiring face shields along with safety glasses. This weekend there were 4 accidents 1 taken to the hospital and 1 distant person was hit in the back with a flying piece of wood. 2 others were also injured.

The waiting list for certification is back up because they can only do so many at a time. Again, nobody has to DIE or give up their membership. You just ha e to complete your certification to become a member. This is a insurance requirement.

In reality the multi month back up is due to a waitlist to to be certified. So if you add in death, and member drops out should speed up the process😁
The 4 accidents, in one weekend after they did a requirement of 2 day certification is very disconcerting