[Andrea3051]

How many more times must I be chased by my neighbors offleash pack of small growling & barking dogs when going outside with my sweet pup? And apparently because I go into protection mode by picking her up to avoid an unknown outcome, I'm in the wrong?

I have only seen these dogs barking & growling which alerts me into defense mode..No idea if friendly

I had hoped people here were as polite and considerate as I am, and most are lovely but I guess a few bad apples are here too

She told me off while I said nothing from the anxiety of the moment. No apology just judgement of my reaction..

I suffer from chronic illness & anxiety, I came here to recover with my emotional support dog. I'm quiet & considerate to everyone yet some just don't care & find it necessary to attack me?

Nobody knows what others are going thru..shame on her & I will no longer be holding my tongue. So much for my quiet peaceful happy place 🙄

Merry Christmas ...

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by Andrea3051

How many more times must I be chased by my neighbors offleash pack of small growling & barking dogs when going outside with my sweet pup? And apparently because I go into protection mode by picking her up to avoid an unknown outcome, I'm in the wrong?

I had hoped people here were as polite and considerate as I am but I guess a..holes are everywhere 😠

She told me off while I said nothing from the anxiety of the moment. No apology just judgement of my reaction..

I suffer from chronic illness & anxiety, I came here to recover with my emotional support dog. I'm quiet & considerate to everyone yet some just don't care & find it necessary to attack me?

Nobody knows what others are going thru..shame on her & I will no longer be holding my tongue. So much for my quiet peaceful happy place 🙄

Merry Christmas to me...because last night was not pleasant.😕

Most of us are!!!

[PugMom]

stick to dog parks where the owner is present, and probably more responsible. is also a good way to meet new people

[Spalumbos62]

Originally Posted by Andrea3051

How many more times must I be chased by my neighbors offleash pack of small growling & barking dogs when going outside with my sweet pup? And apparently because I go into protection mode by picking her up to avoid an unknown outcome, I'm in the wrong?

I had hoped people here were as polite and considerate as I am but I guess a..holes are everywhere 😠

She told me off while I said nothing from the anxiety of the moment. No apology just judgement of my reaction..

I suffer from chronic illness & anxiety, I came here to recover with my emotional support dog. I'm quiet & considerate to everyone yet some just don't care & find it necessary to attack me?

Nobody knows what others are going thru..shame on her & I will no longer be holding my tongue. So much for my quiet peaceful happy place 🙄

Merry Christmas to me...because last night was not pleasant.😕

Sorry to hear your dilemma. I have a similar unwanted dog/neighbor issue- the old, cancer filled dog thinks my yard is his potty...I've discussed it with the neighbor, but like your problem ,falls on deft ears. So now I keep a loaded squirt gun by the door. Yes, I have startled him a few times and will continue. The neighbor said...." oh, don't hurt my little baby" .....really?
Next its gonna have a little vinegar in there.
Obviously I don't want to hurt any dog, as you wouldn't either...but maybe carry a little spray bottle with you and give them a startle. I sure hope it's just little ones that are running out to you, because if not, it's time for some authoritative person step in...maybe write a ticket.
Eitherway, Merry Christmas

[Andrea3051]

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62

Sorry to hear your dilemma. I have a similar unwanted dog/neighbor issue- the old, cancer filled dog thinks my yard is his potty...I've discussed it with the neighbor, but like your problem ,falls on deft ears. So now I keep a loaded squirt gun by the door. Yes, I have startled him a few times and will continue. The neighbor said...." oh, don't hurt my little baby" .....really?
Next its gonna have a little vinegar in there.
Obviously I don't want to hurt any dog, as you wouldn't either...but maybe carry a little spray bottle with you and give them a startle. I sure hope it's just little ones that are running out to you, because if not, it's time for some authoritative person step in...maybe write a ticket.
Eitherway, Merry Christmas

Thanks I did buy some defensive tools because of this issue, I just don't carry when stepping out for last call at night but clearly I will need to start.

I know most people here are so lovely but these others really ruin it! Merry Christmas

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by PugMom

stick to dog parks where the owner is present, and probably more responsible. is also a good way to meet new people

She sounds as if she is almost a prisoner in her house, being attacked by off leash pack of dogs when she goes outside. Needs to get video/audio of this and get appropriate authorities involved. Sue the neighbor for harassment or assault.
Meanwhile, don't forget, the dogs in pack mode could be dangerous and if she should suffer a bite call police immediately to have the dogs removed for they are dangerous and the neighbor should not be allowed to have them if she can't or won't control them.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Andrea3051

How many more times must I be chased by my neighbors offleash pack of small growling & barking dogs when going outside with my sweet pup? And apparently because I go into protection mode by picking her up to avoid an unknown outcome, I'm in the wrong?

I had hoped people here were as polite and considerate as I am but I guess a..holes are everywhere 😠

She told me off while I said nothing from the anxiety of the moment. No apology just judgement of my reaction..

I suffer from chronic illness & anxiety, I came here to recover with my emotional support dog. I'm quiet & considerate to everyone yet some just don't care & find it necessary to attack me?

Nobody knows what others are going thru..shame on her & I will no longer be holding my tongue. So much for my quiet peaceful happy place 🙄

Merry Christmas to me...because last night was not pleasant.😕

We of course only get one side of every story. "Offleash,Small pack of barking growing dogs." There are rules intended to minimize people's intrusion on the rights of others.
People can only own TWO pets. Two dogs is not a pack. So if they have more than TWO dogs they are in violation. Also, even on your own property a dog must be on a leash another violation.

Too many dog owners lose track that it is a dog. A dog is a pack animal the reason why IF your neighbor has several they will bark growl together. One is the leader and that will be obvious. Also, by instinct a dog will not welcome another dog or even people on to it's property

The question in the OP. Am I wrong? Then name calling a holes. Then Merry Christmas to ME. Does not sound like you are completely innocent.

Sadly, when things start bad it is difficult to turn things around-BUT IT CAN BE DONE.
Perhaps, there is someone that would help both of you? Perhaps, the villages?
The hardest part is rejecting the thought, I'm gonna get even-I'm gonna teach them a lesson. That is the hardest part, for BOTH SIDES of every issue.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by DAVES

We of course only get one side of every story. "Offleash,Small pack of barking growing dogs." There are rules intended to minimize people's intrusion on the rights of others.
People can only own TWO pets. Two dogs is not a pack. So if they have more than TWO dogs they are in violation. Also, even on your own property a dog must be on a leash another violation.

Too many dog owners lose track that it is a dog. A dog is a pack animal the reason why IF your neighbor has several they will bark growl together. One is the leader and that will be obvious. Also, by instinct a dog will not welcome another dog or even people on to it's property

The question in the OP. Am I wrong? Then name calling a holes. Then Merry Christmas to ME. Does not sound like you are completely innocent.

Sadly, when things start bad it is difficult to turn things around-BUT IT CAN BE DONE.
Perhaps, there is someone that would help both of you? Perhaps, the villages?
The hardest part is rejecting the thought, I'm gonna get even-I'm gonna teach them a lesson. That is the hardest part, for BOTH SIDES of every issue.

You should hold off on attacking the OP, she obviously has some emotional issues and should seek professional help. That being said, what you posted is probably spot on. The telling phrase is that the neighbor's dogs are a growling, barking pack and her dog is a "sweet pup".

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Andrea3051

Thanks I did buy some defensive tools because of this issue, I just don't carry when stepping out for last call at night but clearly I will need to start.

I know most people here are so lovely but these others really ruin it! Merry Christmas

"I did buy some defensive tools." Law is always strange. I'm not an attorney but I think I read somewhere that to carry pepper spray you need a concealed carry permit in Florida.

As stated previously, it is difficult, but not impossible to resolve such issues. It sounds to me that you are allowing anger to escalate the issue. "I did buy some defensive tools." Is an escalation of the issue. Not an act that will led to a resolution.

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

You should hold off on attacking the OP, she obviously has some emotional issues and should seek professional help. That being said, what you posted is probably spot on. The telling phrase is that the neighbor's dogs are a growling, barking pack and her dog is a "sweet pup".

I did the best I could not to attack anyone. I should be obvious-I HOPE.

[walterray1]

Originally Posted by Andrea3051

How many more times must I be chased by my neighbors offleash pack of small growling & barking dogs when going outside with my sweet pup? And apparently because I go into protection mode by picking her up to avoid an unknown outcome, I'm in the wrong?

I had hoped people here were as polite and considerate as I am but I guess a..holes are everywhere 😠

She told me off while I said nothing from the anxiety of the moment. No apology just judgement of my reaction..

I suffer from chronic illness & anxiety, I came here to recover with my emotional support dog. I'm quiet & considerate to everyone yet some just don't care & find it necessary to attack me?

Nobody knows what others are going thru..shame on her & I will no longer be holding my tongue. So much for my quiet peaceful happy place 🙄

Merry Christmas to me...because last night was not pleasant.😕

isnt an offleash pack of small growling and barking neighbors.

[fdpaq0580]

Originally Posted by DAVES

We of course only get one side of every story. "Offleash,Small pack of barking growing dogs." There are rules intended to minimize people's intrusion on the rights of others.
People can only own TWO pets. Two dogs is not a pack. So if they have more than TWO dogs they are in violation. Also, even on your own property a dog must be on a leash another violation.

Too many dog owners lose track that it is a dog. A dog is a pack animal the reason why IF your neighbor has several they will bark growl together. One is the leader and that will be obvious. Also, by instinct a dog will not welcome another dog or even people on to it's property

The question in the OP. Am I wrong? Then name calling a holes. Then Merry Christmas to ME. Does not sound like you are completely innocent.

Sadly, when things start bad it is difficult to turn things around-BUT IT CAN BE DONE.
Perhaps, there is someone that would help both of you? Perhaps, the villages?
The hardest part is rejecting the thought, I'm gonna get even-I'm gonna teach them a lesson. That is the hardest part, for BOTH SIDES of every issue.

You are right on many points and on this day of days bring a message of seeking peaceful resolution. Good for you.
Sadly, I feel that once something is broken it can actually be broken beyond repair. In the case of neighborly relations, that bridge must be built from both sides and meet in the middle. Both sides must want it.
As for only getting one side of the story, that is, unfortunately, all we usually get and must try to give our "two cents worth" intuitively.
If the neighbor for some reason refuses to obey the rules, then documenting and evidence gathering should begin sooner rather then later for ones own protection.
May this situation come quickly to a peaceful and friendly resolution.
Merry Christmas to one and all!

[DAVES]

Originally Posted by Spalumbos62

Sorry to hear your dilemma. I have a similar unwanted dog/neighbor issue- the old, cancer filled dog thinks my yard is his potty...I've discussed it with the neighbor, but like your problem ,falls on deft ears. So now I keep a loaded squirt gun by the door. Yes, I have startled him a few times and will continue. The neighbor said...." oh, don't hurt my little baby" .....really?
Next its gonna have a little vinegar in there.
Obviously I don't want to hurt any dog, as you wouldn't either...but maybe carry a little spray bottle with you and give them a startle. I sure hope it's just little ones that are running out to you, because if not, it's time for some authoritative person step in...maybe write a ticket.
Eitherway, Merry Christmas

From my dad, who could make the most complex issues truly simple. In fact covers so many of these threads on different issues. Your rights end where the other person's rights begin. Someone allowing their dog to go on your side of the property line is clearly beyond where your rights begin.

A dog is a dog. By instinct the dog knows it's waste is dirty and disease carrying. The reason why the dog will not relieve itself on it's owners property. Dog owners, some are well strange. You can talk about anything, my husband, wife, lawn, golf cart even the truly important stuff like my lawn but, my dog and you will have a war.

When, your neighbor refuses to control their dog and you have told them so they are aware, there is no shortage of dog repellent products-no need to even explain to your neighbor why their dog no longer goes in YOUR yard.

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by DAVES

"I did buy some defensive tools." Law is always strange. I'm not an attorney but I think I read somewhere that to carry pepper spray you need a concealed carry permit in Florida.

No, Pepper Spray may be carried w/o a permit...

[Andrea3051]

Originally Posted by DAVES

We of course only get one side of every story. "Offleash,Small pack of barking growing dogs." There are rules intended to minimize people's intrusion on the rights of others.
People can only own TWO pets. Two dogs is not a pack. So if they have more than TWO dogs they are in violation. Also, even on your own property a dog must be on a leash another violation.

Too many dog owners lose track that it is a dog. A dog is a pack animal the reason why IF your neighbor has several they will bark growl together. One is the leader and that will be obvious. Also, by instinct a dog will not welcome another dog or even people on to it's property

The question in the OP. Am I wrong? Then name calling a holes. Then Merry Christmas to ME. Does not sound like you are completely innocent.

Sadly, when things start bad it is difficult to turn things around-BUT IT CAN BE DONE.
Perhaps, there is someone that would help both of you? Perhaps, the villages?
The hardest part is rejecting the thought, I'm gonna get even-I'm gonna teach them a lesson. That is the hardest part, for BOTH SIDES of every issue.

Yes. Two sides:
she came out to her open garage with her 3 dogs and once they saw us across the street entering my garage they took off barking & growling. Then yelled at me for reacting to protect my dog, to relax and I think she said for me to move.

MY Side: I was walking to enter my garage, suddenly heard & saw the dogs running for us, yes, on my property & and reacted by picking up my medium size dog so they couldn't get to her. She's a docile dog. I remained quiet to calm me & my pup.

No apology, its all my fault because I wasn't ok with it all, second time this has happened. But I'm the issue in her eyes. 🙄. She doesn't know me or my issues, how dare she dictate how I should be behave in an situation that shouldn't be happening in the first place.

Sadly this appears to be a TV issue happening too much, these owners are behaving irresponsible. What if that happened to an aggressive dog? The larger dog would be blamed for injuries..