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Papa_lecki 02-18-2023 09:55 AM

#121 - do we get to 200?

Byte1 02-18-2023 11:11 AM

Interesting that dog owners (I was one for many years) repeat over and over again that they cannot control their pets when they stop to use our lawns for a toilet. I wonder how many of them that take their dogs with them into stores, have that same problem. I've owned dogs most of my life and never, ever had one take a dump on someone else's property. Maybe that is why I feel I can criticize the other dog owners for being disrespectful of the property of others? I don't hate dogs. I like them more than people. I spend a sizable amount of money on my lawn and do not want others to use it without my permission. Is there anything wrong with that? Would you want visiting family members of your neighbors playing football, or volleyball on your lawn without asking?

JMintzer 02-18-2023 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2188808)
Interesting that dog owners (I was one for many years) repeat over and over again that they cannot control their pets when they stop to use our lawns for a toilet. I wonder how many of them that take their dogs with them into stores, have that same problem. I've owned dogs most of my life and never, ever had one take a dump on someone else's property. Maybe that is why I feel I can criticize the other dog owners for being disrespectful of the property of others? I don't hate dogs. I like them more than people. I spend a sizable amount of money on my lawn and do not want others to use it without my permission. Is there anything wrong with that? Would you want visiting family members of your neighbors playing football, or volleyball on your lawn without asking?

The comparison fails... I don't take my dog for a "walk thru Lowes"...

When dogs are inside, they typically do not "use the facilities" (assuming they are housebroken...)

Are you really comparing "playing football or volleyball" with a dog peeing on a few square inches of your grass?

shut the front door 02-18-2023 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_lecki (Post 2188757)
#121 - do we get to 200?

Absolutely. If nothing else, it's fun pi$$ing off the post nazi.

fdpaq0580 02-18-2023 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2188887)
The comparison fails... I don't take my dog for a "walk thru Lowes"...

When dogs are inside, they typically do not "use the facilities" (assuming they are housebroken...)

Are you really comparing "playing football or volleyball" with a dog peeing on a few square inches of your grass?

The comparison is legit. It should be obvious. Trespassing is still Trespassing, just like stealing is still stealing, be it a bicycle or a BMW. Speeding is speeding 5 mph or 50 mph over the limit. Shooting someone with a 22 VS a 45, they can be just as dead as your attempt to justify using your neighbors yard to let your dog sniff and snoop in hopes it will pee and poop.

JMintzer 02-18-2023 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2188960)
The comparison is legit. It should be obvious. Trespassing is still Trespassing, just like stealing is still stealing, be it a bicycle or a BMW. Speeding is speeding 5 mph or 50 mph over the limit. Shooting someone with a 22 VS a 45, they can be just as dead as your attempt to justify using your neighbors yard to let your dog sniff and snoop in hopes it will pee and poop.

More horrible analogies... (except maybe the one about getting shot...)

brianherlihy 02-18-2023 05:46 PM

well i hate all dogs and dogs pee and poop at home and bur home grass

fdpaq0580 02-18-2023 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2188978)
More horrible analogies... (except maybe the one about getting shot...)

The analogies are only horrible to you because they demonstrate the hypocrisy of your pathetic attempt to justify your trespassing. You have no right to even one square inch of another's property without prior permission. It is good that you pick up your dogs mess, but it is totally irrelevant to the act of trespassing. It, the picking up after your dog, in no way justifies or minimizes the fact you abused and disrespected your neighbor and their property when you chose to let your dog go there.

Ndomines 02-19-2023 07:23 AM

Take a picture
 
TAKE A PICTURE. of dog owners not picking up after their dogs. Post it here and on youtube. Same for the dog parks as well. Looking at your phone and not noticing the pile you dog just left is no excuse.

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Originally Posted by Catalina36 (Post 2186890)
DOG OWNERS, please pick up your Dogs POOP
I recently noticed a Dog Owner walking his Dog on a neighborhood corner property. The owner appeared to be not paying any attention to the dog. After the dog pooped the dog owner walked away without picking up the poop. I backed up the car and informed the owner as he was walking away that he did not pick up the dogs poop!! He stated I always pick up the dogs poop!! I stated well you didnt pick it up this time. Pick up your dogs poop. He told me to go XXXX myself. Another day I was driving into my neighbor hood and I noticed the same owner again not picking up after his dog!!

THE VILLAGES is a beautiful place to live!! Our neighbors spend a great deal of money on maintaining their property to keep it looking nice.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO PICK UP AFTER YOUR DOG THEN WALK THE DOG ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY NOT SOMEONE ELSE'S!!!!!!!!


JMintzer 02-19-2023 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2189044)
The analogies are only horrible to you because they demonstrate the hypocrisy of your pathetic attempt to justify your trespassing. You have no right to even one square inch of another's property without prior permission. It is good that you pick up your dogs mess, but it is totally irrelevant to the act of trespassing. It, the picking up after your dog, in no way justifies or minimizes the fact you abused and disrespected your neighbor and their property when you chose to let your dog go there.

I never said I had "the right"... It's just that "sh!t happens"...

Were you the guy who kept the baseball when it accidentally rolled into your yard?

Bilyclub 02-19-2023 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2189131)
I never said I had "the right"... It's just that "sh!t happens"...

Were you the guy who kept the baseball when it accidentally rolled into your yard?

How was your vacation? The other JM was running amuck in your absence.

coffeebean 02-19-2023 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2189044)
The analogies are only horrible to you because they demonstrate the hypocrisy of your pathetic attempt to justify your trespassing. You have no right to even one square inch of another's property without prior permission. It is good that you pick up your dogs mess, but it is totally irrelevant to the act of trespassing. It, the picking up after your dog, in no way justifies or minimizes the fact you abused and disrespected your neighbor and their property when you chose to let your dog go there.

I certainly am not in favor of anyone allowing their dog to relieve themselves anywhere other than the dog owner's property. But....... don't we have easements at the street that none of us actually OWN? I think those areas are utility easements. I know we home owners don't actually OWN the easement but we are responsible for maintaining that lawn that makes up the easement. Is this semantics? Maybe.

fdpaq0580 02-19-2023 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2189131)
I never said I had "the right"... It's just that "sh!t happens"...

Were you the guy who kept the baseball when it accidentally rolled into your yard?

Dog poo and pee only happens in the neighbors yard if you allow it. Be a good neighbor and don't trespass. It is so simple "a caveman could do it".

Also, I never kept any kind of ball. But, Cujo did.

fdpaq0580 02-19-2023 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2189192)
I certainly am not in favor of anyone allowing their dog to relieve themselves anywhere other than the dog owner's property. But....... don't we have easements at the street that none of us actually OWN? I think those areas are utility easements. I know we home owners don't actually OWN the easement but we are responsible for maintaining that lawn that makes up the easement. Is this semantics? Maybe.

The concept of easements has been use many times to falsely justify trespassing. You own your property and pay taxes on it and maintain it. Only the appropriate utility, safety and law enforcement have the necessary authority to access your property when necessary. Your lawn and garden is like a living carpet that you bought and paid for. No-one has the right to trespass on it.

fdpaq0580 02-19-2023 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2189179)
How was your vacation? The other JM was running amuck in your absence.

You exaggerate. He got nowhere near Amuck.

Velvet 02-19-2023 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2189192)
I certainly am not in favor of anyone allowing their dog to relieve themselves anywhere other than the dog owner's property. But....... don't we have easements at the street that none of us actually OWN? I think those areas are utility easements. I know we home owners don't actually OWN the easement but we are responsible for maintaining that lawn that makes up the easement. Is this semantics? Maybe.

The easement is strictly for workers. It is not public property.

Dotneko 02-19-2023 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2189192)
I certainly am not in favor of anyone allowing their dog to relieve themselves anywhere other than the dog owner's property. But....... don't we have easements at the street that none of us actually OWN? I think those areas are utility easements. I know we home owners don't actually OWN the easement but we are responsible for maintaining that lawn that makes up the easement. Is this semantics? Maybe.

Those easements are NOT PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY. They are utility and maintenance easements. You cant set up your lemonade stand next to my water meter. Its trespassing.
If you want to leave your dog crap on public property, walk it on the walking paths. That belongs to the Villages. *Sarcasm*
While we are at it, your dog is supposed to be under your control. That means not using a 15 foot flexi leash.

JMintzer 02-19-2023 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2189179)
How was your vacation? The other JM was running amuck in your absence.

Which one? :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

JMintzer 02-19-2023 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2189202)
Dog poo and pee only happens in the neighbors yard if you allow it. Be a good neighbor and don't trespass. It is so simple "a caveman could do it".

Also, I never kept any kind of ball. But, Cujo did.

So you allowed kids to "trespass" on your property?

fdpaq0580 02-19-2023 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2189346)
So you allowed kids to "trespass" on your property?

Where, exactly, did I say that? Are you free form interpreting, or just making up stuff?

JMintzer 02-19-2023 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2189381)
Where, exactly, did I say that? Are you free form interpreting, or just making up stuff?

I guess no kids ever dared to step on your property to retrieve a stray ball or frisbee...

Otherwise, they would have been trespassing. If they did, you ALLOWED them to trespass, since other than yelling form the street, "Hey Mister, can we come get our ball", they never asked permission...

If that never ever happened, I apologize. Plus, I may contact the media, because it would probably be the first time in history...

fdpaq0580 02-19-2023 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2189389)
I guess no kids ever dared to step on your property to retrieve a stray ball or frisbee...

Otherwise, they would have been trespassing. If they did, you ALLOWED them to trespass, since other than yelling form the street, "Hey Mister, can we come get our ball", they never asked permission...

If that never ever happened, I apologize. Plus, I may contact the media, because it would probably be the first time in history...

I and other kids in our neighborhood grew up together. We often played together and visited each other, with parental permission and supervision. If something ended up in our yard, I went and got it. We had a very large dog who claimed anything that came into the yard
As we reached our teens we always called before any visit. One never knows what you might be interrupting.
In the span of a couple of years we all went our separate ways. Never had kids nearby that needed access to the yard. Call the media if you like, but my story involving kids would be dull.

MX rider 02-19-2023 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2189131)
I never said I had "the right"... It's just that "sh!t happens"...

Were you the guy who kept the baseball when it accidentally rolled into your yard?

Comparing dog Sh*t to a baseball is idiotic.

coffeebean 02-19-2023 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2189220)
The concept of easements has been use many times to falsely justify trespassing. You own your property and pay taxes on it and maintain it. Only the appropriate utility, safety and law enforcement have the necessary authority to access your property when necessary. Your lawn and garden is like a living carpet that you bought and paid for. No-one has the right to trespass on it.

OK then.

coffeebean 02-19-2023 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2189270)
The easement is strictly for workers. It is not public property.

Got it. Thanks.

MX rider 02-19-2023 08:06 PM

Bottom line, if your dog needs someone elses yard to crap in, you either should've bought a house with a bigger yard, or you shouldn't own a dog. It's obvious here, some people shouldn't own dogs

And I'm a dog owner. I have 2 labs here in Indiana. We own 1.5 acres and they never crap in my neighbors yard, only ours. But when we start snowbirding next fall I'm going to re-home them. As hard as that will be, they can't live a good active life there like they're used to here, as our yard is pretty small.

JMintzer 02-19-2023 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MX rider (Post 2189405)
Comparing dog Sh*t to a baseball is idiotic.

No more idiotic than many of the "comparisons" in this thread...

But I wasn't comparing a baseball to dog sh*t... I was specifically talking about trespassing...

JMintzer 02-19-2023 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MX rider (Post 2189434)
Bottom line, if your dog needs someone elses yard to crap in, you either should've bought a house with a bigger yard, or you shouldn't own a dog. It's obvious here, some people shouldn't own dogs

And I'm a dog owner. I have 2 labs here in Indiana. We own 1.5 acres and they never crap in my neighbors yard, only ours. But when we start snowbirding next fall I'm going to re-home them. As hard as that will be, they can't live a good active life there like they're used to here, as our yard is pretty small.

Well, I have a small 13 lb schnauzer/poodle mix. She doesn't need a "big yard". She does 95+% of her "business" in our yard. Especially before we go for a walk...

But as I and others have said, when walking, nature takes it's course...

I'm sorry you'll have to give yours away. I don't think I could bring myself to do that... I'd wait or make sure I could bring them to the dog park daily so they could run...

MX rider 02-20-2023 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2189447)
Well, I have a small 13 lb schnauzer/poodle mix. She doesn't need a "big yard". She does 95+% of her "business" in our yard. Especially before we go for a walk...

But as I and others have said, when walking, nature takes it's course...

I'm sorry you'll have to give yours away. I don't think I could bring myself to do that... I'd wait or make sure I could bring them to the dog park daily so they could run...

I stand by what I said. If a dog needs another yard to go in, you shouldn't have a dog.

I love my dogs, but they're dogs, not kids.
Our #1 priority is having a happy, active retirement, and we don't need dogs to make us happy.

MX rider 02-20-2023 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2189444)
No more idiotic than many of the "comparisons" in this thread...

But I wasn't comparing a baseball to dog sh*t... I was specifically talking about trespassing...

It's up to the homeowner to decide what and what not they allow on their property. Assuming it's ok for a dog to dump in someones yard is just plain wrong.


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