[Kannon451]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

If you can legally carry a gun when walking your dog-do so, coyotes can be shot on sight

I don't believe that for a second. That may be legal in some places, but not in The Villages and not by a private residents.
The concealed carry cadre (CC) here has the answer, gun it down on sight. Easier said than done....
.....The Coyote bursts from the brush and grabs the pet and starts to run. The CC reaches for their trusty weapon, but where, under arm? Small of back?, ankle?......what ever. ...(The Coyote is still running). The CC draws the weapon, but wait, is there a round chambered, is the hammer cocked, is the safety on......think, think. The Coyote at this point is most likely 50 yards away by now. Ok, everything set....FIRE! Whatever is hit at that point won't be the Coyote.

[Duckfinger2]

A good CO2 pallet pistol will do the trick, it will not kill the coyote but will get it's attention.
Or if you are a bow hunter get a predator call set it off and wait !

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Duckfinger2

A good CO2 pallet pistol will do the trick, it will not kill the coyote but will get it's attention.

Or if you are a bow hunter get a predator call set it off and wait !

Not a bad idea.

[David Moon]

I've seen a fox while walking the dog, but not coyotes.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by David Moon

I've seen a fox while walking the dog, but not coyotes.

I've seen coyotes numerous times on the streets here (Sanibel) and running in between homes.

[FosterMomma]

I would be devastated if a wild animal got one of my Golden Retrievers... would a fog horn work?

[Kannon451]

Originally Posted by dbussone

Not a bad idea.

pepper spray is another option. But a number of those with concealed carry permits choose the lethal force option. The May also carry pepper spray, I don't know, but whenever a thread gets to crime, personal protection, etc., they always mention their guns as thy first option.
Having such a permit, doesn't guarantee that in a very emotional, Adeline filled scenario, they will have the presence of mind to if they should drew the weapon or how and if to use it.
Frankly, I'm more concerned about these folks walking around the Villages, than I am about lightning strikes, and sink holes.

[dbussone]

Originally Posted by Kannon451

pepper spray is another option. But a number of those with concealed carry permits choose the lethal force option. The May also carry pepper spray, I don't know, but whenever a thread gets to crime, personal protection, etc., they always mention their guns as thy first option.

Having such a permit, doesn't guarantee that in a very emotional, Adeline filled scenario, they will have the presence of mind to if they should drew the weapon or how and if to use it.

Frankly, I'm more concerned about these folks walking around the Villages, than I am about lightning strikes, and sink holes.

I agree with you. I have CWP but it is difficult to conceive of a situation in TV where it would be necessary. A pellet gun or pepper spray make far more sense.

EXCEPT KCRaxorbackfan and some others are professionals. I say let them do what they think works.

[Kannon451]

Originally Posted by dbussone

I agree with you. I have CWP but it is difficult to conceive of a situation in TV where it would be necessary. A pellet gun or pepper spray make far more sense.

EXCEPT KCRaxorbackfan and some others are professionals. I say let them do what they think works.

Professionals by definition are more proficient at what they do than novices are and therefor less likely to have accidents. But they do have them. Professional drivers wreck cars as law enforcement people have accidents with their weapons. There is no shortage of examples of that.
To repeat myself, now those individuals are saying they would fire their weapons at an indigenous animal trying to do what it does...survive within the Villages. Why, because it is their dog. This where human emotions and weaknesses come into play. Would they shoot an alligator eating ducks? Probably not, unless of course, the duck was their pet. Professional is just a word. They are not perfect machines, only human with all that that brings.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Originally Posted by Kannon451

pepper spray is another option. But a number of those with concealed carry permits choose the lethal force option. The May also carry pepper spray, I don't know, but whenever a thread gets to crime, personal protection, etc., they always mention their guns as thy first option.
Having such a permit, doesn't guarantee that in a very emotional, Adeline filled scenario, they will have the presence of mind to if they should drew the weapon or how and if to use it.
Frankly, I'm more concerned about these folks walking around the Villages, than I am about lightning strikes, and sink holes.

Trust me, don't be outside walking around when it's lightning; this IS the lightning capital. After 25 years of carrying a weapon, a coyote (and neither much anything else) will not get me emotional or adrenaline filled. Pepper spray will just run the coyote off, a bullet insures it will not bother anyone again. My .380 won't be my 1st option; kicking the s**t out of it and breaking something will be. Then....

[Kannon451]

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan

Trust me, don't be outside walking around when it's lightning; this IS the lightning capital. After 25 years of carrying a weapon, a coyote (and neither much anything else) will not get me emotional or adrenaline filled. Pepper spray will just run the coyote off, a bullet insures it will not bother anyone again. My .380 won't be my 1st option; kicking the s**t out of it and breaking something will be. Then....

Truth is, I still think I have a better chance with lightening then being down range from someone emptying their gun trying to hit a coyote running all out in the dark. All the while recovering from the recoil of each shot and adjusting for ever changing elevation and lead distance. (The animal isn't going to stand there so it can be kicked and then shot.
The emotional element I was talking about was if it happened to be that persons own dog/pet. That is undeniable and normal. The emotional element denied is evident here. The coyote only trying to survive. As long as it eats frogs, ducks, etc. it's ok. When it starts eating pet dogs, it needs to be killed so it won't bother anyone again.

[graciegirl]

I don't own a gun but a lot of folks do here. I may want to own a gun sometime in the future if I feel the need to protect myself. I think trying to shoot this coyote is overkill. I think being mindful and protective of our pets will get the job done.

I hope I am right.

[Uberschaf]

I would think discharging a firearm is illegal in TV even at a coyote.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Bonny

If the puppy was close enough to you, I would think, once you start kicking that coyote, chances are he would take off.

Kick a Coyote? Would you kick a German Shepard? Because the coyotes I have seen are much bigger than those in the past. My wife took the trash out and was harassed by a coyote when we lived in NC. It would have attacked her if I had not run outside and shouted at it. It backed off, but slowly and barking. If I would have had my gun with me, I would have shot at it. I would not suggest kicking a coyote unless you want to undergo some rabbi shots. If you have no other recourse, then sure, kick it.

Having a CCW is not for bragging rights. It's for self defense and defense of those near you. I consider an attack by a coyote to warrant self defense. I would consider an attack by a large dog to be self defense. I'd worry about civil violations later. My pets are family and I would defend them. If I had to resort to the use of a gun, I would do so and worry about a fine later. Just my opinion. I wouldn't hunt for coyotes, but I would use the force necessary to protect myself and mine from an attack. To legally have a CCW you must have a knowledge of gun safety and operation. It's not something taken lightly.

They also make an aerosol spray that you could carry when you walk your dog. Some of them are quite effective in repelling wildlife. For those that are afraid of guns, I would suggest that mode of defense. A stick could work on a coyote, if it is not rabid or really hungry. They used to run when shouted at, but seem to be getting braver recently. Generally, coyotes avoid humans, and seek out small meals.

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Uberschaf

I would think discharging a firearm is illegal in TV even at a coyote.

You are probably right in one regard. Just discharging a firearm in TV. However, the exception to those type of rules is self defense. Even so, my pets and family are more important than a fine. Just my opinion.