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Read the Federal ADA law. The dog is a service animal who performs a necessary service for the owner, who has a disability and cannot function without the dog's assistance.
You missed a key point or two. ADA.gov states “ Under the ADA, a service animal is defined as a dog that has been individually trained to do work or perform tasks for an individual with a disability. The task(s) performed by the dog must be directly related to the person's disability.” The key point Is “individually trained” . The animal “must be trained to take a specific action when needed to assist the person with a disability.” The other point is that emotional support animals are NOT service animals. So many people abuse the system, I think it should be scrapped and replaced with one that requires certification of training and medical need to be displayed on the animals harness. There are always a few that ruin a good thing for everyone.
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A dog must be properly Identified as a Service Animal to qualify. It may be a stretch but I doubt these complaints were directed toward these dogs.
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Stop judging when you don’t know. Just because you can’t see what the impairment is doesn’t mean it’s not there. There are working dogs trained to alert their owner if their blood sugar is dropping, about to have a seizure, alert the hearing impaired of sirens, assist those with anxiety & ptsd. There are many reasons for a service dog that you cannot tell what service they are providing nor is it any of your business. Sure there will some who take advantage of the system but service animals are imperative to many people.
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Lowe’s, Home Depot & TJ Max are also pet friendly. I would call or check the stores website before you go. A lot of stores are now becoming pet friendly.
Stores becoming pet friendly? That’s a shame. I don’t want your dog at the fish counter or in the dressing room. I don’t want to have to navigate around your Golden Retriever in the aisle. It’s rude to bring your dog in public indoor places. Some are under the misguided idea that everyone else loves their little mutt too. Not true. I like dogs. I don’t like rude dog people. And... when I see a capable grown man insisting his is a self-proclaimed “service” dog, I assume he isn’t well adjusted enough to cope with the simple things in life; if he must emotionally rely on a dog to make it through the Lowe’s. Not a turn-on dude. Shaking my head... Be polite. Leave your precious FeFe at home when you go out. It’s another mask type of thing. Be self-aware and aware of your neighbors. It is so difficult to follow societal rules?

On my beach at home in OC, people want to sneak their poor dogs onto the beach. All the time despite the beach being a terrible environment for dogs due to possible heat stroke, salt water poisoning etc. I always go to the lifeguard. One day I see a young guy on the beach with his dog. I look closer, the guy has one arm and no legs, possible a veteran. That’s a service dog. Wanting to carry FeFe into the Publix because you love FeFe so much isn’t the same thing. I’m Diabetic. I get all issues aren’t as visible as no arms or legs. Have the dog properly identified with credentials AND most importantly — proper training to actually be a “service” animal and I have no problem.

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You can buy on line Emotional support dog certificate and vest for fee.
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I have a pet cow I’ve trained her to give me milk when I’m thirsty. Can I bring her in too?
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The Federal ADA law doesn't require a service dog to have a certificate. You just need to tell anyone who asks that the dog has been trained to perform a service for you. That's it. No certification or formal training required. You can train the dog yourself.
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the owners disability is lack of brain cells
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Old 07-05-2020, 07:12 AM
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Why must people bring their dogs into grocery stores?
It is disgusting!!! I saw one dog licking and sniffing unwrapped food items. Today a man brought in his big, wet, smelly dog!
Here is the Florida statue. Now companies are allowed to ask if it’s a service animal and what services it provides. The state just put more teeth into the law as of January 1 of this year. Now a person can be fined for stating it is a service animal.

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Sure there will some who take advantage of the system

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I was waiting outside for my pizza-to-go at Flippers and a guy was feeding his dog pizza from their table.

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Old 07-05-2020, 07:16 AM
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Here is the Florida statue. Now companies are allowed to ask if it’s a service animal and what services it provides. The state just put more teeth into the law as of January 1 of this year. Now a person can be fined for stating it is a service animal.

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How can a 3lb chihuahua be of any assistance to someone?

those things are mean...........maybe a body guard.
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Old 07-05-2020, 07:17 AM
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It was the man’s fault, did the dog wear a therapy jacket?
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Old 07-05-2020, 07:18 AM
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There is a common misconception that there is some type of official certification, or vest required for service dogs. There is no such requirement. Anyone can have a dog, self train it to perform a task, and it will immediately become a service animal in full compliance with the Federal ADA law. The dog does not need to wear anything to identify it as a service animal. The only requirement is that the dog's owner, if asked, needs to say that the dog is a service animal trained to perform a task. If you ask anything else, you are violating the Federal law.
What you are saying is not true. Try getting on a plane with a service dog without documentation, and a vest identifying the dog as a service animal. You need a letter from your doctor saying the animal is required for your wellbeing, a certificate saying the dog has received training, and a vest identifying the dog as a service animal. If you do not have these the dog is not allowed to board. Been through this many times and the doctor note is only good for one year. It should be the same requirement for bringing your dog into a grocery store.
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For $35.00 anyone can get a service certificate for their dog, some are legit others are just taking advantage of the system, just like handicap stickers in cars. These aren't like seeing eye dogs.
It’s harder to get a handicap sticker as if you’re not handicapped not only do you have to perjure yourself but so does your doctor
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What you are saying is not true. Try getting on a plane with a service dog without documentation, and a vest identifying the dog as a service animal. You need a letter from your doctor saying the animal is required for your wellbeing, a certificate saying the dog has received training, and a vest identifying the dog as a service animal. If you do not have these the dog is not allowed to board. Been through this many times and the doctor note is only good for one year. It should be the same requirement for bringing your dog into a grocery store.
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