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Davonu 10-03-2022 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2142672)
The easement is not for you! Unless you’re a utilities worker, you’re trespassing.

Yep. Easement are dedicated for specific uses.

Byte1 10-03-2022 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2142677)
On my plat, it is not called an easement. It is referred to as a "right of way", and it doesn't say anything about who can use it. I think that trespassing is when you are actually on someone else's property.

You may be right. However, if I have to maintain it in good order, then I should have the right to complain about anyone destroying it, right?

True Blue 10-03-2022 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by hampton (Post 2142199)
They do not want to ruin their lawns. There are a lot of inconsiderate pet owners that pick up their pet waste and throw the poop bags on the ground only to be washed into the storm drains that flow into the ponds.

I have never seen poop bags tossed on the ground here. I do see LOTS of cigarette butts everywhere. Even piles of them that appear to be dumped from someone’s “ash tray”. They will stay there forever or at least until someone, like me, picks them up. I never see threads about cigarette butts. I wonder why?

True Blue 10-03-2022 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2142651)
Yes, of course. I noticed that I have less brown spots on my lawn then I did before implementing a new tactic. When someone leaves a bit of missed excrement on my lawn, I simply leave it by their door so that they can dispose of it at their convenience. I love animals, but since I spend a substantial amount of money on my lawn to keep it looking nice, I prefer that owners of pets take their little critters elsewhere to do their business. I know they understand because they do not allow them to do their business in their own yards.

So you follow them to their house?!

Rodneysblue 10-03-2022 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2142229)
OOOH! We haven't had a good poop thread in weeks!

https://www.yaycork.ie/wp-content/up...2018/07/rp.gif

Has it been that long.

fdpaq0580 10-03-2022 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tomzoom (Post 2142583)
The first 10 feet of what most people consider “their yard” is right of way and is up for grabs.

This lie keeps popping up? I bought my whole lot. I paid for the grass and plants, the irregation system, the soil the grass and plants are planted in. I pay the taxes on all of it. I pay for the maintenance. It is not " up for grabs", any more than your car parked in your driveway. It is simple to respect your neighbors. Just stay off the lawn because it is not yours!

Rainger99 10-03-2022 08:34 AM

It sounds like someone else looking to move into that "pet free" village!!!

mike234 10-03-2022 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by flower7330@gmail.com (Post 2142186)
We are currently renting a home in TV and are looking to buy at some point. One thing that we have noticed is folks walking by with their dogs and setting them up to poop on our lawn and then cleaning it up.
We are not dog haters and have recently lost our dog.
Why can't folks have the dog poop on their own lawn and then go for walk.
We had a poop place in our backyard for our dog to poop.
I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on this.

you wrote the word poop five times....just sayin

JSR22 10-03-2022 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2142692)
This lie keeps popping up? I bought my whole lot. I paid for the grass and plants, the irregation system, the soil the grass and plants are planted in. I pay the taxes on all of it. I pay for the maintenance. It is not " up for grabs", any more than your car parked in your driveway. It is simple to respect your neighbors. Just stay off the lawn because it is not yours!

You would be much happier living in a community that does not allow pets.

DonnaNi4os 10-03-2022 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by flower7330@gmail.com (Post 2142186)
We are currently renting a home in TV and are looking to buy at some point. One thing that we have noticed is folks walking by with their dogs and setting them up to poop on our lawn and then cleaning it up.
We are not dog haters and have recently lost our dog.
Why can't folks have the dog poop on their own lawn and then go for walk.
We had a poop place in our backyard for our dog to poop.
I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on this.

Since you were a previous dog owner I would assume you walked your dog. The walk and the scents from other dogs can give them the urge to poop. I carry bags with me and mine commonly prefers the street and I do not allow her to go on other people’s lawns. It’s part of owning a dog. This subject comes up frequently and I get your frustration. All I can do is control what my own dog does and she does not do “it” ….pee or poop, on anyone else’s lawn. She uses her own yard but walks do encourage “going”.

Byte1 10-03-2022 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mike234 (Post 2142698)
you wrote the word poop five times....just sayin

Sounds like a lot of krap. :o

bark4me 10-03-2022 08:43 AM

You clearly need to buy a home in a rural area with no neighbors close by!

fdpaq0580 10-03-2022 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Annie66 (Post 2142596)
Let's understand when they are trespassing. Check your plot diagram. In most yards, the front property line ends approximately 12-13 feet from the curb. You do not own the area from that line to the curb. Thus, if they encroach on that area, by law, they are not trespassing.

WRONG!
Easement/right of way only provides acces to essential service employees to repair or maintain said equipment. It does NOT apply to the general public! You can still be charged with trespassing.
Be a good neighbor. Keep off the grass!

fdpaq0580 10-03-2022 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by agjaret@aol.com (Post 2142656)
As a dog owner it is difficult in the villages to walk dogs anywhere but lawns. I keep my pups to the edges. There is a part of the lawn which belongs to the villages from the curb to your home. An easement which varies in feet depending on house size.

Streets and sidewalks and dog parks. What more do you need?

By the way, the easement is NOT owned by TV. It is private property. The easement simply grants utility and essential service worker access to repair or service equipment. Dog walkers are tresspassers.

RiderOnTheStorm 10-03-2022 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2142227)
I don't mind if dogs poop in my yard, as long as the owner cleans it up. I don't have a dog, but I don't think you can just command your dog to poop anywhere you want it to.

I once had a dog named "Stay". I would say "come here, Stay". But, that dog was impossible to train.

The problem isn't the poop which can easily be cleaned up by responsible pet walkers, but rather the urine which burns out the grass and cannot be cleaned up. I echo the recommendation for dog owners to have their dogs poop and pee in their own yards before walking them. We have two large dogs and that is what we do out of respect for our neighbors.

Gettingoutofdodge 10-03-2022 09:18 AM

Dogs poop
 
Most dogs need to walk and smell for “the right place to go”. I totally understand that people don’t want dogs to go on their lawns. I have a dog and as soon as I see him squatting, I put the bag under his butt and catch it before it hits the ground. It’s no big deal and it’s easier then picking it up afterward. In NY it can get very ugly if your dog goes on someone’s lawn. This method keeps everyone happy.

Oldragbagger 10-03-2022 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by agjaret@aol.com (Post 2142656)
As a dog owner it is difficult in the villages to walk dogs anywhere but lawns. I keep my pups to the edges. There is a part of the lawn which belongs to the villages from the curb to your home. An easement which varies in feet depending on house size.

You are wrong on that fact. The “easements” that are marked on your plat map are for the utilities companies to have access to that part of YOUR PROPERTY to do maintenance and service on their underground lines and equipment. It is limited and specific and does not in any way imply that this part of the property does not belong to the homeowner. You need to familiarize yourself with easement rights. It does not extend to the general public, it is not owned by The Villages. If you take your dog onto any part of your neighbors yard to do it’s business you are trespassing.

shut the front door 10-03-2022 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2142229)
OOOH! We haven't had a good poop thread in weeks!

https://www.yaycork.ie/wp-content/up...2018/07/rp.gif

You must really like them since you've replied to this one 11 times.

OhioBuckeye 10-03-2022 09:29 AM

Guess I’m a little confused. If a dog poops on your lawn & they pick it up, how would you know if a dog pooped on your lawn? We don’t live there anymore but I really think pet owners are very polite & pick up after their pet. One time in 8 yrs. I noticed poop in my yard. The next day it was gone. So I don’t understand your complaint!

golfing eagles 10-03-2022 09:52 AM

OK---I get to make the 100th post on this thread, which may very well be the 100th dog poop thread.

Transcending 10-03-2022 09:55 AM

Dogs Pooping
 
Consideration might be given to the fact that intestines work similarly and that a little bit of exercise might help them work.

Transcending 10-03-2022 10:14 AM

Dogs Pooping
 
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Originally Posted by Transcending (Post 2142740)
Consideration might be given to the fact that intestines work similarly and that a little bit of exercise might help them work.

Another thought Is pulling a pet animal along while the pet is trying to poop just looks wrong. Other thoughts include considerations for constipation and diarrhea issues. How many dog owners are experts in bowel and bladder pet functions. It would be good to hear from a couple of Veterinarians to help with this recurring Dog Poop concern.

MartinSE 10-03-2022 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bark4me (Post 2142702)
You clearly need to buy a home in a rural area with no neighbors close by!

We came from N. Florida, about 20 minutes out from Live Oak - very rural, heavily wood.

All those coyote's, squirrels, gopher turtles, hawks, owls, deer, possums, bears, mountain lions - all pooping on our yard, and NO one to complain about it too. Much better here, we can come on here and complain.

And at least the alligators, bears, possums, birds, raccoons here never poop on our grass!

GizmoWhiskers 10-03-2022 10:30 AM

Pooping on command in Villa housing would be an interesting thing to teach a dog. Usually dogs need to walk to get their bowels moving but if they will do it on command... great!. Poop bags, a civil "dooty"... they do contribute to climate change right?... so there's that.

jimmy o 10-03-2022 10:30 AM

As long as owner cleans up I feel there is nothing to gripe about. Our dog is kept on our property but when passing pups use our lawn it is no big deal the owner always picks it up. Also remember that is not really your lawn that’s being pooped on. Your property line does not go all the way to street, your lot line is 12-15 feet back. So for the most part the pooper is using public property. So maybe you can call the police and complain that a dog pooped on public easement and the owner picked it up. I would love to hear their response.

fdpaq0580 10-03-2022 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 2142732)
Guess I’m a little confused. If a dog poops on your lawn & they pick it up, how would you know if a dog pooped on your lawn? We don’t live there anymore but I really think pet owners are very polite & pick up after their pet. One time in 8 yrs. I noticed poop in my yard. The next day it was gone. So I don’t understand your complaint!

You miss the point entirely. Picking up is good but never completely gets it all. The scent remains and draws others. The point is someone entered your property and used it ( not just used it. Dumped sewage on it) without your permission and without giving you the opportunity to refuse. That is utterly disrespectful best. What if they use your car without asking? Your property, is that okay with you?

RCMill531@comcast.net 10-03-2022 10:58 AM

I agree with you completely. We don’t have a dog at this point and I would never let my dog dirty someone else’s lawn. We are in a new neighborhood and apparently this is acceptable in The Villages.

PugMom 10-03-2022 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jparsoneau@aol.com (Post 2142653)
For all you put haters out there you should probably start your own club. since you like to tell the pet owners how to take care of their pets.

the DogPoop Discussions group, LOL! everyone gather on my lawn :a20:

PugMom 10-03-2022 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2142780)
You miss the point entirely. Picking up is good but never completely gets it all. The scent remains and draws others. The point is someone entered your property and used it ( not just used it. Dumped sewage on it) without your permission and without giving you the opportunity to refuse. That is utterly disrespectful best. What if they use your car without asking? Your property, is that okay with you?

that's an excellent point-it's the scent that attracts the other dogs. both pee & poop

JSR22 10-03-2022 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2142795)
the DogPoop Discussions group, LOL! everyone gather on my lawn :a20:

Hope I can bring my dog!

birdawg 10-03-2022 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Annie66 (Post 2142596)
Let's understand when they are trespassing. Check your plot diagram. In most yards, the front property line ends approximately 12-13 feet from the curb. You do not own the area from that line to the curb. Thus, if they encroach on that area, by law, they are not trespassing.

that’s called a building envelope you have one on the side and back of your home (easements) guess you think I can walk a dog on the side of your house

retiredguy123 10-03-2022 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldragbagger (Post 2142727)
You are wrong on that fact. The “easements” that are marked on your plat map are for the utilities companies to have access to that part of YOUR PROPERTY to do maintenance and service on their underground lines and equipment. It is limited and specific and does not in any way imply that this part of the property does not belong to the homeowner. You need to familiarize yourself with easement rights. It does not extend to the general public, it is not owned by The Villages. If you take your dog onto any part of your neighbors yard to do it’s business you are trespassing.

It is my understanding that the "lot line" defines where your property starts. My front lot line is located about 10 feet from the street pavement. That 10 foot strip between the lot line and the pavement is called a right of way, not an easement. I don't believe that I own the right of way strip of land because it is outside of my lot line.

Note, that an easement is different from a right of way. The deed restriction document describes easements for utility companies, such as electric, water, and cable TV. Many of these utilities are not located on the right of way, but they are actually located on the homeowner's property. I have several cable TV cables and junction boxes that are on my property, but not on the right of way because they are inside the lot line. According to the deed restrictions, these utility companies have the right to enter my property to maintain their utilities. There are no easements marked on my property plat.

JMintzer 10-03-2022 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2142436)
Agree! The ultimate in showing contempt for their neighbors by using their neighbors yards as pet potties. If they feel contempt in return from their victims, they are reaping what they have sown and deservedly so.

Yes, we have such contempt for our new neighbors who, when they first met our dog, she proceeded to victimize them and "drop a deuce" just over the property line on their lawn...

We apologized, and immediately cleaned it up, and they said, "Don't worry about it, it's what dogs do. Thanks for picking up after your dog..."

I've never felt such contempt from someone in my life!

Oh, wait... When we get invited over for drinks, they always tell us to "Bring Maggie!", who will immediately hop up in the gentleman's lap. He sits there with a big grin, as she falls asleep, having her belly scratched... The horror of it all...

And those other neighbors, who don't even own dogs, but carry treats for those walking their dogs past their homes.. How dare we let our dog go say hello that those victims! That's trespassing!

"'I'm suspicious of people who don't like dogs, but I trust a dog when it doesn't like a person."

- Bill Murray


"Never trust a man who doesn't like dogs."

- Ricky Gervais

JMintzer 10-03-2022 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TheWarriors (Post 2142584)
Yes it is for the most part. Some don’t recognize property rights. Your dog, your property. Easy as that. Unless you don’t mind if I relieve myself on your property after a late night at the Squares. :a040:

Yes, it's completely the same thing... Said no one ever...

JMintzer 10-03-2022 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GaryKoca (Post 2142597)
I don't mind if dogs urinate on my lawn. There are not a lot of public places in the neighborhoods where you can wait a while. Regarding pooping, that is not a problem as long as they pick up after they do that. Most people pick up the poop, but not everyone. I just don't understand that.

Prezactly! I have no respect for those who do not clean up after their pets.

From what I've seen, the vast majority do just that. They will carry poop bags and use them. Will SOME people be jerks? Most certainly. Several have proven that theory on this thread...

But just wait... Those who insist they didn't get every single microscopic particle and that will cause them to get some disease when they walk all over their lawn barefoot will be along shortly... Never mind that they water their lawn with pond water that has who knows what chemicals in it...

JMintzer 10-03-2022 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by raney3099 (Post 2142600)
We always pick up after our baby girl. Believe me I wish she would go on my lawn. Walking her 3x a day is not fun for us. I’ve stayed out there with her for long periods of time and will only pee. She needs to walk in order to poo. So we walk!! If that really bothers, then there are communities that are pet free. Maybe that would be better for those who find this to be a big problem. I couldn’t image spending my day watching to see if dogs are on my lawn. I think there are lots of other more fun things to do in TV.

Now you've done it... "Baby Girl"? Prepare to be mocked and accused of having emotional problems for comparing an ANIMAL to a "baby girl"...

Yes, it's happened many times on these threads...

JMintzer 10-03-2022 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BoatRatKat (Post 2142602)
My gosh, do folks just sit with their eyes glued to the windows to catch dogs pooping? I wouldn't even know if a dog pooped in my yard nor would I care as long as it was pick up. Good grief, go enjoy your lives and stop worrying about poop.

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JMintzer 10-03-2022 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2142639)
Glad they pickup their dog poop. Problem is you can't get it all. Watch where you walk barefoot in your yard.

And there it is...

JWGifford 10-03-2022 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by flower7330@gmail.com (Post 2142186)
We are currently renting a home in TV and are looking to buy at some point. One thing that we have noticed is folks walking by with their dogs and setting them up to poop on our lawn and then cleaning it up.
We are not dog haters and have recently lost our dog.
Why can't folks have the dog poop on their own lawn and then go for walk.
We had a poop place in our backyard for our dog to poop.
I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on this.

I wonder if it has something to do with most folks not having a fenced backyard to allow their dogs out, so they must walk them? Any responsible owner will of course pick up.

JMintzer 10-03-2022 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2142646)
According to these subject posts, you are probably right....I must be. Perhaps some folks that do not understand how to care for their pets ought to be trained before obtaining a furry friend. In my opinion, if you can house break a dog, then you can dictate where he may unburden itself. My intention was not to insult anyone, just to make them aware that there is more to "sharing" a community than forcing others to accept one's intrusive transgressing and property damages, even if only minute in nature. Perhaps if a pet own is not confident in controlling their animal then they should consider allowing it to live in a better home, where the owner is better equipped to care for the little friend. Is it too difficult to learn to properly handle a pet, or is it just that the owner is too lazy to take a few minutes to learn? It's really not that difficult, unless you have a difficult pet. Kind of like raising children. Either you care for them properly or they remain undisciplined. I don't even consider it "tough love" to train the pet properly. Sorry, just my experienced opinion on the subject.

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