[ilovetv]

Originally Posted by gerryann

Certain subjects bring out the "dumb" in some folks.

Yes, that's because there is "dumb" on both sides of the argument, as well as brazen and arrogant.

[Bonanza]

Originally Posted by BogeyBoy

In all of the years I have owned dogs and walked dogs I have never encountered homeowners so protective of their property. There are all kinds of wild critters roaming The Villages, I don't think they will be paying any attention to your colored stakes. Shame on the pet owner who does not clean up after the pet, but that is another topic. I think this thread is specifically about people who have zero tolerance for pets on their property. My question to them - how did you handle this issue where you lived before moving to TV? None of your neighbors had dogs?

Bogey -- I agree with you. The dog "problem" is not specific to only The Villages. The problem is, before some of these people moved to The Villages they had to turn the other cheek and get on with their life whereas dogs were concerned. Now -- they have a vehicle to voice their venom -- it's called TOTV! The dog issue is age-old, on-going and will continue on ad infinitum.

While off topic, I find that Villagers continually beat a dead horse on certain subjects (such as dog walking and dog poop) and delight in changing the meaning of what a person says. Most of these old farts have too much time on their hands and need to create some constructive things to do other than bitching and moaning about dog poop.

The problem is inconsiderate pet owners who need to be confronted when someone sees "it" happening instead of crucifying the world.

[dah1020]

I have never trusted anyone that doesn't like dogs. They are companions and the love they give to their owners is unconditional. That being said I think all you dog haters should have a certain village where you all live together then you can find something else to hate maybe even each other. I walk my dog daily and there are times he decides he is going to go potty. I always pick up . All dogs need walked for exercise where are we supposed to go Not the dog parks. Took my dog there. He got fleas. No thank you. Don't you all have better things to worry about than a dog on your lawn. Good God!

[gerryann]

Originally Posted by dah352

I have never trusted anyone that doesn't like dogs. They are companions and the love they give to their owners is unconditional. That being said I think all you dog haters should have a certain village where you all live together then you can find something else to hate maybe even each other. I walk my dog daily and there are times he decides he is going to go potty. I always pick up . All dogs need walked for exercise where are we supposed to go Not the dog parks. Took my dog there. He got fleas. No thank you. Don't you all have better things to worry about than a dog on your lawn. Good God!

[gerryann]

Originally Posted by ilovetv

Yes, that's because there is "dumb" on both sides of the argument, as well as brazen and arrogant.

that's for sure!!!!

[gerryann]

Originally Posted by Bonanza

Bogey -- I agree with you. The dog "problem" is not specific to only The Villages. The problem is, before some of these people moved to The Villages they had to turn the other cheek and get on with their life whereas dogs were concerned. Now -- they have a vehicle to voice their venom -- it's called TOTV! The dog issue is age-old, on-going and will continue on ad infinitum.

While off topic, I find that Villagers continually beat a dead horse on certain subjects (such as dog walking and dog poop) and delight in changing the meaning of what a person says. Most of these old farts have too much time on their hands and need to create some constructive things to do other than bitching and moaning about dog poop.

The problem is inconsiderate pet owners who need to be confronted when someone sees "it" happening instead of crucifying the world.

very true. Retired and nothing else to do with their time than to bitch about whatever comes to mind. Never in my life heard so much complaining. Dogs, poop, restaurants, landscapers, Yada, yada,yada.

[Bonanza]

Originally Posted by dah352

I have never trusted anyone that doesn't like dogs. They are companions and the love they give to their owners is unconditional. That being said I think all you dog haters should have a certain village where you all live together then you can find something else to hate maybe even each other. I walk my dog daily and there are times he decides he is going to go potty. I always pick up . All dogs need walked for exercise where are we supposed to go Not the dog parks. Took my dog there. He got fleas. No thank you. Don't you all have better things to worry about than a dog on your lawn. Good God!

Wonderful post!

I wanted to be the first to commend you (because you are so on target),
and comment before everyone else bashes you (they just don't get it).
It seems to be what Villagers do best . . . beside complaining about dogs.

[kittygilchrist]

Originally Posted by BogeyBoy

In all of the years I have owned dogs and walked dogs I have never encountered homeowners so protective of their property. There are all kinds of wild critters roaming The Villages, I don't think they will be paying any attention to your colored stakes. Shame on the pet owner who does not clean up after the pet, but that is another topic. I think this thread is specifically about people who have zero tolerance for pets on their property. My question to them - how did you handle this issue where you lived before moving to TV? None of your neighbors had dogs?

My dog burns a hole in turf up to to 12" in diameter with her first morning urine. Not everyone knows a large female can generate an overdose of nitrogen that way.

[BarryRX]

Originally Posted by gerryann

You may think the people who don't want your dog on their lawn are dog haters, but I don't think so. It's very simply a matter of private property. That lawn is theirs. IT'S NOT YOURS! If they want to be completely unreasonable about your dogs fecal matter remains or urine on their lawn, then it's their prerogative. You do not get to pass the blame on to them for being "dog haters". There would be no situation for anybody to be arguing about if your pet wasn't on someone else's private property. Before anyone flames me, until recently I was a dog owner and have been for most of my life (my toy poodle shadow died 2 years ago). I spent many years working for CRT (chihuahua rescue and transport) in Ohio. I currently own a courtyard villa and there is a fire hydrant on my front lawn. Dogs go on my lawn all the time, and I don't mind. But for people to demonize property owners for not wanting you to not only trespass, but to have your pet pee and poop on their private property is outrageous. It's their property and it's their choice. If you think their choice is unreasonable, well that's too bad. Perhaps if you paid their property taxes for them you would be entitled to determine who can come onto their property.

[obxgal]

According to Janet Tutt it is considered trespassing to let your dog go on someone's yard.

Can't get any simpler than that. No need for signs or post. Just don't trespass, problem solved.

[gerryann]

Originally Posted by BarryRX

You may think the people who don't want your dog on their lawn are dog haters, but I don't think so. It's very simply a matter of private property. That lawn is theirs. IT'S NOT YOURS! If they want to be completely unreasonable about your dogs fecal matter remains or urine on their lawn, then it's their prerogative. You do not get to pass the blame on to them for being "dog haters". There would be no situation for anybody to be arguing about if your pet wasn't on someone else's private property. Before anyone flames me, until recently I was a dog owner and have been for most of my life (my toy poodle shadow died 2 years ago). I spent many years working for CRT (chihuahua rescue and transport) in Ohio. I currently own a courtyard villa and there is a fire hydrant on my front lawn. Dogs go on my lawn all the time, and I don't mind. But for people to demonize property owners for not wanting you to not only trespass, but to have your pet pee and poop on their private property is outrageous. It's their property and it's their choice. If you think their choice is unreasonable, well that's too bad. Perhaps if you paid their property taxes for them you would be entitled to determine who can come onto their property.

I've never called anyone a dog hater. I don't believe anyone is a dog hater. The word hate is not in my vocabulary.

[buggyone]

Originally Posted by obxgal

According to Janet Tutt it is considered trespassing to let your dog go on someone's yard.

Can't get any simpler than that. No need for signs or post. Just don't trespass, problem solved.

...and just is the homeowner going to do? Are you going to call the Sheriff and hold the dog owner at gunpoint until the Sheriff arrives? Are you going to shoot the dog because it was on your property? The Sheriff would be taking YOU in the squad car to the lockup in either of those happenings.

Get real already. There is nothing you can do except to tell the person and their dog to vacate your lawn - and hopefully, tell them without screaming or cursing.

[birdawg]

Originally Posted by BarryRX

You may think the people who don't want your dog on their lawn are dog haters, but I don't think so. It's very simply a matter of private property. That lawn is theirs. IT'S NOT YOURS! If they want to be completely unreasonable about your dogs fecal matter remains or urine on their lawn, then it's their prerogative. You do not get to pass the blame on to them for being "dog haters". There would be no situation for anybody to be arguing about if your pet wasn't on someone else's private property. Before anyone flames me, until recently I was a dog owner and have been for most of my life (my toy poodle shadow died 2 years ago). I spent many years working for CRT (chihuahua rescue and transport) in Ohio. I currently own a courtyard villa and there is a fire hydrant on my front lawn. Dogs go on my lawn all the time, and I don't mind. But for people to demonize property owners for not wanting you to not only trespass, but to have your pet pee and poop on their private property is outrageous. It's their property and it's their choice. If you think their choice is unreasonable, well that's too bad. Perhaps if you paid their property taxes for them you would be entitled to determine who can come onto their property.

Exactly!

[Bonanza]

Originally Posted by kittygilchrist

My dog burns a hole in turf up to to 12" in diameter with her first morning urine. Not everyone knows a large female can generate an overdose of nitrogen that way.

I'm with you, Kitty.
Our dogs are female also so I know what you mean.

In our old house, we changed the sod (errr, rather dirt)
to turf and were thrilled beyond words.
Too bad our "rules" say we can't have it.
If you want to know why, PM me and send me your phone #.
I'll explain.

[Erijo]

Dear Barry & Obxgal,
WELL SAID!!!!

And that is that! Can we please end this discussion? It does not always bring out the best in people. Villagers are for the most part kind, generous and the first to help one another in times of trouble.