Talk of The Villages Florida
Page 3 of 6 1 2 3 4 5 Last »
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

Talk of The Villages Florida (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/)
-   The Villages, Florida, General Discussion (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/)
-   -   Duke Energy Golf Cart Path (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/duke-energy-golf-cart-path-207110/)

crash 09-13-2016 08:03 AM
JoMar love your quote.

graciegirl 09-13-2016 08:21 AM
The golf cart accident and death on 441/27 is very sad and troubling.

Barefoot 09-13-2016 08:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1287244)
Enjoy it while you can. Be safe, be careful.
It's private property.
Well said.

chuckinca 09-13-2016 08:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1288001)
The golf cart accident and death on 441/27 is very sad and troubling.
Yes it is but not related to this topic.

.

leftyf 09-16-2016 10:33 AM
I just came acroos the path and Duke Energy has placed handouts at each end of the path. It says that Duke Energy will no longer accept liability for this path. They are willing to transfer ownership of this property to another party. If no party takes it, Duke will be forced to close it. The letter is a lot longer than this, I just reduced it because I don't like to type that much. If you want a copy, hop on your cart and drive over. To make matters worse, some idiot has put 4 empty gas cans where the litter bag is.

graciegirl 09-16-2016 10:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 1288022)
Yes it is but not related to this topic.

.
Didn't someone from Stonecrest say that with a street legal cart they can cross over 441/27 and that it is legal to do it at certain points? I think it is still dangerous and that is what people might do when this path closes.

graciegirl 09-16-2016 11:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by leftyf (Post 1289985)
I just came acroos the path and Duke Energy has placed handouts at each end of the path. It says that Duke Energy will no longer accept liability for this path. They are willing to transfer ownership of this property to another party. If no party takes it, Duke will be forced to close it. The letter is a lot longer than this, I just reduced it because I don't like to type that much. If you want a copy, hop on your cart and drive over. To make matters worse, some idiot has put 4 empty gas cans where the litter bag is.
Bump

dewilson58 09-16-2016 11:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by leftyf (Post 1289985)
I just came acroos the path and Duke Energy has placed handouts at each end of the path. It says that Duke Energy will no longer accept liability for this path. They are willing to transfer ownership of this property to another party. If no party takes it, Duke will be forced to close it. The letter is a lot longer than this, I just reduced it because I don't like to type that much. If you want a copy, hop on your cart and drive over. To make matters worse, some idiot has put 4 empty gas cans where the litter bag is.
That's what I heard from Duke directly.....Willing to transfer, prior talks have fallen apart and if no transfer, will have to close.

Allegiance 09-16-2016 12:26 PM
They probably got scared by all our resident lawyers.

Hello Morse family, help!!!!

Allegiance 09-16-2016 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1289986)
Didn't someone from Stonecrest say that with a street legal cart they can cross over 441/27 and that it is legal to do it at certain points? I think it is still dangerous and that is what people might do when this path closes.
That is not an option, that one crossover is a non Village enclosed community.

rubicon 09-16-2016 01:00 PM
If duke deems this pathway to be a nuisance and liability magnet why would anyone want to own it? No thank you

Steve9930 09-16-2016 03:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1289986)
Didn't someone from Stonecrest say that with a street legal cart they can cross over 441/27 and that it is legal to do it at certain points? I think it is still dangerous and that is what people might do when this path closes.
You can cross 27/441 with a street legal Cart (LSV). However I don't think there is a way to get past the point to enter further down stream.

Steve9930 09-16-2016 03:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by leftyf (Post 1289985)
I just came acroos the path and Duke Energy has placed handouts at each end of the path. It says that Duke Energy will no longer accept liability for this path. They are willing to transfer ownership of this property to another party. If no party takes it, Duke will be forced to close it. The letter is a lot longer than this, I just reduced it because I don't like to type that much. If you want a copy, hop on your cart and drive over. To make matters worse, some idiot has put 4 empty gas cans where the litter bag is.
Just got back South so I went to check out the path. Got the hand out and noticed Duke will even transfer the property to another owner for free. That shows you just how unwilling they are to take on the responsibility. My prediction is the path will be closed starting January of next year.

outlaw 09-16-2016 03:14 PM
When are we going to be able to drive our golf carts to Orlando? I need to go to Costco.

NoMoSno 09-16-2016 03:38 PM
Maybe if the path had never been improved, without permission, it would be business as usual?

Steve9930 09-16-2016 07:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 1290175)
Maybe if the path had never been improved, without permission, it would be business as usual?
What's funny is it was far more unsafe before the upgrades.

Allegiance 09-16-2016 08:23 PM
It was never "unsafe" you just had to go a little slower, maybe making it safer then

Rollie 09-17-2016 08:26 AM
Maybe Stonecrest will take the property and put up a gate.

Rollie

Barefoot 09-17-2016 11:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollie (Post 1290519)
Maybe Stonecrest will take the property and put up a gate.
Yikes, what an idea, that would really be turning the tables! :eek:

villagetinker 09-17-2016 12:38 PM
Maybe someone will take it off Duke Energy's hands and make it a TOLL golf cart path, to cover the liability issue. :22yikes::22yikes: :a20: :a20: :a20:

rubicon 09-17-2016 01:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 1290699)
Maybe someone will take it off Duke Energy's hands and make it a TOLL golf cart path, to cover the liability issue. :22yikes::22yikes: :a20: :a20: :a20:
That would mean a gate..and as Lou Costello said "gate" and slowly he turned and step by step.......

Steve9930 09-17-2016 05:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1290653)
Yikes, what an idea, that would really be turning the tables! :eek:
Hmmmmm, I believe I see a leverage trade in the making. Can you say Paradise Gate? Pay backs are H---!:laugh:

graciegirl 09-17-2016 06:19 PM
I think those who would be affected by the path closing need to make some plans.

If they cannot drive, then perhaps they will have to move to be close to the things they need and so they can get to them in a golf cart. Moving does seem daunting but it is easier here in The Villages because we have less things and the cost of movers is much less here. And it is easier to sell a home here.

It looks like the path closing is something that is very possible.

villagetinker 09-17-2016 07:23 PM
On a more serious note, it would be nice if Walmart would reach the agreement with Duke. Per what I saw on county records, Walmart already owns the property on 3 sides of the Duke substation, so this would just widen the land by the detention basin (which Walmart owns). Maybe all affected should call, text, or write Walmart. I have no issues in the outcome of this, as I live south of 466a, but I would like to see an out come that would keep the path open.

Mleeja 09-17-2016 08:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 1290699)
Maybe someone will take it off Duke Energy's hands and make it a TOLL golf cart path, to cover the liability issue. :22yikes::22yikes: :a20: :a20: :a20:
Good idea! The Florida Turnpike Authoity could operate then we could use our Sun Pass! :2excited::beer3:

Allegiance 09-18-2016 07:00 AM
Hopefully the Morse family and POA / HOA will get involved.

TVMayor 09-18-2016 07:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1290974)
Hopefully the Morse family and POA / HOA will get involved.
Remember when the Developer put up the wall blocking access to the path? Why would the Morse family get involved?

Allegiance 09-18-2016 07:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TVMayor (Post 1290998)
Remember when the Developer put up the wall blocking access to the path? Why would the Morse family get involved?
To help villagers get to Walmart. The gate already keeps out most Stonecrest erst.

Don't the historic homeowners have any say in how their CCD money is spent? Maybe that is a stupid question.

justjim 09-18-2016 09:09 AM
Duke Energy is doing the right thing especially for their customers who use a golf cart for their only means of transportation. I have no dog in this fight as I too live south of 466a and will likely never use this path, but come on folks it's a serious issue for those residents and let's show a little compassion for the residents dilemma. Not all of us have the same resources or even health to just up and move to another location to shop, go to doctors or even get groceries.

This path is very important to some and Duke Energy is attempting to work something out for these residents and customers (good for Duke Energy) who have used this path for years. BTY the other no name news has an article about the path today.

graciegirl 09-18-2016 11:16 AM
///

Bogie Shooter 09-18-2016 11:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Allegiance (Post 1291003)
To help villagers get to Walmart. The gate already keeps out most Stonecrest erst.

Don't the historic homeowners have any say in how their CCD money is spent? Maybe that is a stupid question.
The Developer doesn't help this villager get to WalMart.

outlaw 09-18-2016 11:54 AM
I have a long cart drive to Walmart. Do you think the developer would consider building a Walmart closer to me?

Allegiance 09-18-2016 12:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1291211)
I have a long cart drive to Walmart. Do you think the developer would consider building a Walmart closer to me?
Yes, he is a benevolent ruler

ColdNoMore 09-18-2016 01:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1291081)
snip<... but come on folks it's a serious issue for those residents and let's show a little compassion for the residents dilemma.

Not all of us have the same resources or even health to just up and move to another location to shop, go to doctors or even get groceries....>snip
My thoughts exactly.

Some people. :ohdear:



For those facing and dealing with this issue...good luck. :thumbup:

graciegirl 09-18-2016 02:04 PM
We all will have to make changes eventually when we can no longer drive. None of us are getting younger. We are all in charge of our own lives.

The developer is not our mother.

xlhig 09-18-2016 03:15 PM
Benefits for Stonecresters?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve9930 (Post 1278141)
What I know about the subject neither Walmart or Duke wants the liability. The Stonecrest POA in the beginning got the two sides together and then backed away to let them hash it out. There used to be updates on the negotiations from our POA. What happened to open this can of worms again? It went cold for a long time. Then there was a group that did a lot of volunteer work to improve the path. Did this bring this to forefront again? They moved the improvements as close to the Walmart fence as possible. The reason I thought was that Duke did not want people that close to the substation. If the Duke legal department believes some how they legally now have the liability by defacto they will close that path. I would have expected an internal memo that indicated anyone discussing this made it perfectly clear that people that used the path were trespassing. I've been involved with things like this in the past and as long as no one says something wrong, people just turn a blind eye. Once they believe it legally becomes a problem then Duke will have no recourse but to act on it. This is why I indicated do not talk to Duke and ask questions about the path because if some one gives out the wrong info its over. If I were Duke I would put a sign that indicates this is Duke Property and the path can be used at your own risk. Does not totally exonerate them from liability but gives them an argument should some one take them to court over the an incident. Guess I'll just have to see what's up when I get back down South. Not happy with any of this. Is there a new No Trespassing Sign put up by Duke that indicates no trespassing violators will be prosecuted? If so then you use that path and would be subject to arrest if they also informed the local law enforcement they want it up held. Closing this path has no positives associated with it.
I must be missing something. Those that spruced up the path were mostly comprised of Stonecresters, from what I've read. What benefit does this path provide them since they cannot get past the wall? Can someone shed some light on that?

Nucky 09-18-2016 07:44 PM
I do truly believe that The Lord Created Amazon just in case this path does close. It will not close. No way Jose.

Mleeja 09-18-2016 08:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xlhig (Post 1291302)
I must be missing something. Those that spruced up the path were mostly comprised of Stonecresters, from what I've read. What benefit does this path provide them since they cannot get past the wall? Can someone shed some light on that?
"The Wall" which is actually a gate, only keeps non-residents out of The Villages. These paths are well beyond The Villages proper.

Allegiance 09-18-2016 08:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xlhig (Post 1291302)
I must be missing something. Those that spruced up the path were mostly comprised of Stonecresters, from what I've read. What benefit does this path provide them since they cannot get past the wall? Can someone shed some light on that?
This duke path keeps villagers from Walmart etc and keeps Stonecresters from Lowes etc.

Everyone wants it kept open, but Duke does not want responsibility.

Nucky 09-18-2016 09:26 PM
Hocus Pocus Dominocus, this epic dilemma will resolve itself like magic!


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:01 PM.
Page 3 of 6 1 2 3 4 5 Last »
Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.32 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.