Sure, no worries. You deserve a closer Walmart.
The Developer personally reads every annual survey and grants wishes.
Just look at the huge Cosco being built on CR 466A. :evil6:

I know this is off base but what is the big deal with Costco? Isn't it just a Sam's Club?

Read this thread for a clarification between the two. :D


https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...ghlight=costco

Berry Berry Interesting! Thank's for the assist. Back on the subject now.

We went over on Sunday. If you got 50 cents a cart coming and going I'll bet you would get about $500 for the day. It was a Golf Cart MadHouse.

How can you forget your pass when you need it to leave? Sounds like he was trying to sneak in???

Apparently Costco pays their employees more money. We belonged to both in Cincy and couldn't discern any difference. TOO much lettuce both places. Unusual and great seasonal offerings both places. Enormous jars of pickles both places. Good deals on electronics both places. Nice looking and uncomfortable upholstered furniture both places.

A lot of folks don't like Walmart. I like Walmart. I also don't promote minimum wage at McDonalds. I am satisfied with how much a quarter pounder costs now.

Not deep or altruistic Gracie.

My money is on the path closing if Duke can't find an "owner" for the liability. I don't know why a group of path users don't step up and offer to take over ownership of this property from Duke.

Actually, I think the county should take it over.

Why burden the taxpayers so a few people can drive their golf carts to Walmart? If the county assumes responsibility, the same group will be demanding improvements; paving, widening, covered rest stop..... Let the users pick up the property, since they want to use it.

Some of the users can't even take care of their own trash.

We have shopped both Costco and Sam's club and found Sam offers better deals. We also shopped trader Joe's
Trader Joe's operates on the principal of exclusivity meaning everything is over priced. We periodically drive to Gainsville to shop and stop by trader Joe's for a few items. I happen to like their carrot juice. We like these small trips away from TV. We really like the feel and view of the Wesley Chapel area.

I wonder if Wesley Chapel residents are having similar problems with duke energy and their cartpath?

I wonder what people did to get to the store before they owned a cart? I wonder how much shopping you can do with a cart? I wonder how you keep meat from over heating while shopping with your cart I wonder if some residents are house bound because they forgot to charge up/fuel up their golf carts?

I wonder if this thread will ever end? Probably not until the duke energy cart path is either sold or closed. but then a new thread will begin about who bought the Duke energy cart path and how it affected the flow of traffic. Or if closed what other cart paths may have been cleared to circumvent the now closed duke energy cart path.. and now we find that Water Oak residents take great leaps of faith by making dangerous crossings to get to The Villages in their golf carts. I really do suspect that some day soon we will experience a drone carrying a golf cart onto the public square and find that the owners of the golf cart reside in Orlando ....and the beat goes on...I'm just funning:D

This has nothing to do with the CCD money. This is private property where people have been trespassing. Just like the Villagers did not want people trespassing on the Village Paths. Looks like the shoe is on another foot this time.

Let's see: Bells, Lowes, Cracker barrel, Doctors Offices, Several Restaurants, access to the Hospital, access to the Villages via Street Legal Cart. Could never understand all the hoopla about the gate when all you needed was a street legal cart to access the villages. I'd much rather get in the cart if I have to go to Lowes. However if the path is closed Stonecrest will most likely have a another route using a new gate.

Steve, interesting post on possibly using another gate to get Aldi's and the other locations if they close off the short path between Walmart and Aldi's.

I know the two Stonecrest gates on each side of Walmart. But where might there be a possible gate setup for Stonecrest to bypass the Duke portion of the path.

Is there a spot in Stonecrest further down for a gate.

I think Stonecrest should take over the path and put up gates at each end. Then negotiate a reciprocal deal with the Villages for their use to get to Walmart and Stonecrest use at Paradise.

Only fair. I saw your earlier comment "Payback is Hell".

See my prediction in post 131 is spot on concerning alternate paths and the duke energy pathway hasn't even been sold or closed. And now we also have water oaks to contend with

Is water oaks Golf cart accessible?

Water Oaks. I think I saw a resident on Wesh2 News last night who hit a starter in the face with a golf club. Where is Water Oaks exactly?

south of sams Club same side of 441

Surely hope your post was tongue in cheek! If not - here's food for thought:

Is it not fact that the Villages' Paradise gate is part of the overall intent to deny people other than Villagers golf cart access to the community? Negotiating with Stoecrest wold set precedent to negotiate with Fruitland Park and Wildwood - would it not? If the Developer had no qualms about installing 'the wall' - what makes anyone think there is an oppty to negotiate access?

Stonecrest is right next to the parking lot for the Doctor's Offices. Would just have to open a gate there. That would make 3 gates.

I believe the original wall was nothing more then the developer playing politics with Fruitland Park since they had requested access. However the Paradise gate did little to stop traffic from either Stonecrest or now Spruce Creek. All one needs is a street legal golf cart. So I never understood all the Hoop La and from what I read the gate is broken often and that is a real expense not counting the normal expense of service. Now myself I did not buy a street legal cart since the ride by cart is not as pleasant as the ride by auto. In most cases I'm going farther then Spanish Springs. However not having access to the Business there on the East side of 441 just North of Paradise gate would be a bummer.

I never said that it was an absolute option to negotiate a reciprocal agreement. Wishful thanking to solve both communities travel problems.

However, the statement stands that "Payback is Hell". If someone takes over that small stretch of property, they have the same right as the Paradise gate owners. They will also have the right to decide who they want to let thru.

Another that may apply, "What goes around comes around". KARMA can be a real B.......! I just may take them up on the free offer, this could be a heap of fun. I'm retired, I could stand guard and check ID's.......:pepper2:

I doubt many Stonecrest residents would approve buying the path so villagers could get to Wally World. As noted above, a Stonecrest gate to the medical offices is a possibility and would offset the closure of the Duke Energy Gate for Stonecrest.

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That Walmart doesn't need to be accessed by villagers (except the historical side) as they have the one on 466 and soon the neighborhood one off from 466a. Both of those are golf-cart accessible.

The one off 466A is a market and pharmacy only.

All of the above is interesting but here is my thought....it is Duke Energy property. It is NOT the Duke Energy cart path. Those who use it as a cart path are trespassers. It doesn't matter why they want to/need to use it. They are trespassing. These people have taken it upon themselves to make it a cart path without authorization or permission. I hope it can be resolved to the best interest of all, but in the meantime...trespasser beware. This is not your property.

Good summation of a situation that will linger on until Duke blocks the path

Yepper, but some just don't care about facts.

Facts just muddle the works - lets have more hearsay and conspiracy theories. Am I thinking of the of a "cart path" or the political situation?

Steve and Cajulian re: posts 141 to 143
 

Steve and Cajulian: Let's begin with basics. All this discussion hasn't been created by village residents continuing breaches into Stonecrest, Water Oaks, etc. No we have this problem because like Stonecrest the theme was why pay more for the village lifestyle when you can have more with less and still have the village lifestyle.

Second Lets envision a map of The Villages and divide it into two parts both colored. The commercial district is green and the private residential district is red.

Green belongs ( owns, rents, etc) to the Developer and comprises his commercial interests which are open to the public. Green means go and all non-residents are welcomed.

The Red District belongs to residents who purchased a home at a premium, paid a bond and pay a monthly amenity fee which supports amenities such as rec centers, executive golf courses, multi-modal paths, etc.
Residents of Stonecrest ,etc had an equal opportunity to make such a purchase but chose otherwise. It would seem that breaching the red zone is the persistent goal of some residents of Stonecrest, Water Oaks, Spruce Creek, Oxford, etc.

Please don't get mad at us if we object and desire borders because we have and continue to pay our dues. The Villages is expanding at a rapid pace and we do not need additional traffic on our MMP, etc.

Fair is fair



Personal Best Regards:

Can water oak residents drive their regular non lsv to the villages? Curious.

Makes sense to me.

Not necessarily. It depends on the conditions of the sale. Duke may require the new owner to continue access to all.

Spot on!

My money is on the path being closed.

Yes, but they don't have access to rec centers, pools, golf courses and other amenities.

The streets are public streets. The golf cart paths are owned by The Villages and are limited to Villages residents.

Agree. I see this as a PR move by Duke to soften the blow. It's sad that our society has become so litigious.

Can you tell me how they access the villages by regular Golf cart? I would love to get to home Depot and sams via cart.

Next time you go.................see if she has been informed.