[lpkruege1]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

But Ed wasn't "doing" anything. He wasn't being violent, he didn't threaten to harm anyone. He was exercising HIS right to free speech. Loudly. Obnoxiously. But that's all it was. He didn't try to peek in the woman's house, he didn't even get out of his golf cart. He didn't trespass on her property, he didn't use a bullhorn to disturb the peace in the middle of the night. He just parked on the street in his golf cart-of-signs. The judge awarded the woman a restraining order against him - for exercising HIS right to free speech.

You do realize there are laws against stalking. This wasn't just Free speech protected by his first amendment rights. When you take it to the point Ed did, it's stalking. When someone goes that far, because someone wore a shirt he didn't like, is not normal. I don't care for Ed's message either, but it's his opinion. Why can't he respect that the other people have the same rights he has, and just let it go?

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

I checked Sumter County arrest records and there are 51 other Villagers who have been charged with violating their restraining orders...men and women.
So...is the TOTV going to get a new tab for people who violate restraining orders????

What is the population of TV? 130,000 - 150,000? 50 of those residents can’t even be measured by a percentage.

[Johnsocat]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

But Ed wasn't "doing" anything. He wasn't being violent, he didn't threaten to harm anyone. He was exercising HIS right to free speech. Loudly. Obnoxiously. But that's all it was. He didn't try to peek in the woman's house, he didn't even get out of his golf cart. He didn't trespass on her property, he didn't use a bullhorn to disturb the peace in the middle of the night. He just parked on the street in his golf cart-of-signs. The judge awarded the woman a restraining order against him - for exercising HIS right to free speech.

He followed her to her home! That's stalking and it's scary. He's really full of hate as well, which adds to the unpredictability of his actions.

[Johnsocat]

Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com

Ed could probably use some anger management classes he’s getting a little more in tense, but what normal adult goes around wearing a T Shirt and I quote from newspaper the Presidents name and the word sucks, I don’t care which President or whoever if you put something like that on your looking for trouble and if I offended anyone by using that word I’m sorry but that came from paper

Huh, so it's OK for for Ed to be displaying his opinion all over his cart, but not ok for her to do the same? Hypocrisy.

[Finchs]

This deranged man didn't just now start to act crazy and aggressive.
Those of us participating in golf cart parades have been insulted, spit on, and harassed for the past 3 years by the unrestrained hatred spewing like venom from his mouth.
The ************* coverage of our parades has always focused on McGinty's colorful opposition to the extent that they bear some responsibility for making him a folk anti-hero and have encouraged his bizarre behavior.
The majority of Villagers knew this man was a crazy, dangerous show-off years ago. Now that McGinty has escalated into actual criminal behavor, the ************** is covering this new chapter in the "Tale of McGinty"as if they do not have egg on their face.

To The **************, AND, to those who supported this guy in the past: I see the EGG! It's right there--Under your Nose.

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

What is the population of TV? 130,000 - 150,000? 50 of those residents can’t even be measured by a percentage.

EXACTLY!!! Thank you for proving my point.
Now take that 50 number and drop it to....one...Ed M.
one person out of 150,000 Villagers violated a restraining order...and yet here we are 6 pages deep into a forum....about ONE person.
WHY???? Don't tell me this is not because of the politics of this one person.

[Taltarzac725]

Welcome to Sumter County, FL

Ed's actions hardly seem to warrant the attention from the media nor from the courts. He does need to calm down and not let the ardent fans of a certain person get to him.

He should respect the law though even though here I still do not see what the fuss is about. Some others rarely if ever think that the law even applies to them.

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

EXACTLY!!! Thank you for proving my point.
Now take that 50 number and drop it to....one...Ed M.
one person out of 150,000 Villagers violated a restraining order...and yet here we are 6 pages deep into a forum....about ONE person.
WHY???? Don't tell me this is not because of the politics of this one person.

[njbchbum]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

He parked in front of her house, the police came and told him to leave. He left.

Hours later, she called the police AGAIN and complained that he had returned to harass her a second time.

Except - this time - this second time - never happened. He has proof that he was never there a second time. So it sounds to me like SHE was doing the harassing the second time around by filing a false complaint against him.

She got the judge to award her a restraining order against him for something that didn't happen.

Then - he violated that restraining order, which was for something that didn't happen, by parking his golf cart within 30 feet of her golf cart, and entering the Hadley pool, where she was.

He shouldn't have done that. It was a stupid thing to do. But - he also shouldn't have had a restraining order against him for something he didn't do.

Seems to me that without facts in evidence - there's a lot of assuming in that post.

[Johnsocat]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

EXACTLY!!! Thank you for proving my point.
Now take that 50 number and drop it to....one...Ed M.
one person out of 150,000 Villagers violated a restraining order...and yet here we are 6 pages deep into a forum....about ONE person.
WHY???? Don't tell me this is not because of the politics of this one person.

Perhaps it's because it has a bigger message... it highlights the hypocrisy we are seeing in our citizen's behaviors based on political beliefs...

[New Englander]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

But Ed wasn't "doing" anything. He wasn't being violent, he didn't threaten to harm anyone. He was exercising HIS right to free speech. Loudly. Obnoxiously. But that's all it was. He didn't try to peek in the woman's house, he didn't even get out of his golf cart. He didn't trespass on her property, he didn't use a bullhorn to disturb the peace in the middle of the night. He just parked on the street in his golf cart-of-signs. The judge awarded the woman a restraining order against him - for exercising HIS right to free speech.

What "Ed" was doing was trying to frighten, intimidate, harass the lady. By parking outside her home he's silently letting her know that "He knows where she lives"

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

EXACTLY!!! Thank you for proving my point.
Now take that 50 number and drop it to....one...Ed M.
one person out of 150,000 Villagers violated a restraining order...and yet here we are 6 pages deep into a forum....about ONE person.
WHY???? Don't tell me this is not because of the politics of this one person.

It's because he's become a media star... Due to his own actions...

No one knows who the others are...

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by New Englander

What "Ed" was doing was trying to frighten, intimidate, harass the lady. By parking outside her home he's silently letting her know that "He knows where she lives"

Bingo!

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by JSR22

Very nasty post!

"Nasty" guy. Maybe his family ought to take control of him and have him committed where he won't be a danger to anyone or himself.

[Boomer]

There is certainly enough hate to go around — definitely let out from under the rocks and validated during these past few years. We see it all the time, all around us.

It is tearing up friendships and families and neighborhoods and communities. I have never in my boomer years seen “Us v. Them” like this.

Amerca’s citizens are being used as pawns in the name of greed and power. Dysinformation thrives and the programmed-in buzzwords can be spotted immediately.

The need for attention and the need to be a part of something bigger are rooted deeply in some and they find our country’s current hateful ways to be a path to those things.

I am offended when I see our flag desecrated with a face or a slogan emblazoned across the Stars and Stripes in the name of some kind of warped, pseudo-patriotism. (How can those who do this not know it is desecration of the flag. Our flag should be flying high and proud, not being used to divide and destroy.)

Actually, I am more than offended, I am deeply concerned for our children and grandchildren. We boomers came in with a bang to a country full promise and blessedly full of pride in having defeated a fascist, a monster. And now, here we are. Will the boomers go out with a whimper as Democracy fails, under attack by its own?

The man in question in the paper is certainly over the top. But I cannot help but picture the woman, at the pool, with her crude saying on her shirt, sending her signal to others like her. (* Of course, no one deserves to be stalked. And sure — she can wear whatever she wants to wear to try to get the attention she so desperately must need. This situation is an ugly mess, all around.)

But about those women with their slogans — those women are everywhere. Sometimes they show up in social situations, having been invited by a friend of a friend. I know of one who recently “invaded” a lunch — having been invited by someone to a large group of women, most of whom she had never met.

This brassy creature plopped her purse on the table (ladies do not do that) and then started braying and honking on and on about her hatred for those who do not think like she does. Finally, a woman next to her quietly told her, “We do not act like that.” The brassy, crass, loud woman had assumed. . .

There is a thread running here where the hatred of Baldwin is so intense that the death of an innocent woman seems to be forgotten by those who look like they are reveling in so much joy at Baldwin’s mess that they can forget the death — in what shows between the lines as a, “Hey, whatever it takes to ruin one of ‘em,” attitude.

I have never before had to worry about our country. I am a believer in common sense and decency and thinking things through and responsibility and finding solutions — and plain old good manners. (Remember those?) We are not seeing much of any of those things anymore. Adults are behaving in ways — doing things that I would think they tried to teach their children not to do — or be.

Like Pogo said, “We have met the enemy and he is us.”

Boomer

[MDLNB]

Originally Posted by Boomer

There is certainly enough hate to go around — definitely let out from under the rocks and validated during these past few years. We see it all the time, all around us.

It is tearing up friendships and families and neighborhoods and communities. I have never in my boomer years seen “Us v. Them” like this.

Amerca’s citizens are being used as pawns in the name of greed and power. Dysinformation thrives and the programmed-in buzzwords can be spotted immediately.

The need for attention and the need to be a part of something bigger are rooted deeply in some and they find our country’s current hateful ways to be a path to those things.

I am offended when I see our flag desecrated with a face or a slogan emblazoned across the Stars and Stripes in the name of some kind of warped, pseudo-patriotism. (How can those who do this not know it is desecration of the flag. Our flag should be flying high and proud, not being used to divide and destroy.)

Actually, I am more than offended, I am deeply concerned for our children and grandchildren. We boomers came in with a bang to a country full promise and blessedly full of pride in having defeated a fascist, a monster. And now, here we are. Will the boomers go out with a whimper as Democracy fails, under attack by its own?

The man in question in the paper is certainly over the top. But I cannot help but picture the woman, at the pool, with her crude saying on her shirt, sending her signal to others like her.

These women are everywhere. Sometimes they show up in social situations, having been invited by a friend of a friend. I know of one who recently “invaded” a lunch — having been invited by someone to a large group of women, most of whom she had never met.

This brassy creature plopped her purse on the table (ladies do not do that) and then started braying and honking on and on about her hatred for those who do not think like she does. Finally, a woman next to her quietly told her, “We do not act like that.” The brassy, crass, loud woman had assumed. . .

There is a thread running here where the hatred of Baldwin is so intense that the death of an innocent woman seems to be forgotten by those who look like they are reveling in so much joy at Baldwin’s mess that they can forget the death — in what shows between the lines as a, “Hey, whatever it takes to ruin one of ‘em,” attitude.

I have never before had to worry about our country. I am a believer in middle ground, common sense, and decency — and good manners. (Remember those?) We are not seeing much of any of those things anymore. Adults are behaving in ways that I would think they tried to teach their children not to do — or be.

Like Pogo said, “We have met the enemy and he is us.”

Boomer

Sounds like someone hates women. Blaming a woman for a man's bad behavior? Hmm., or was that just a satiric post?