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Normal 06-02-2024 05:23 AM

Catching Thieves
 
During COVID there was a large uptick in appliance thieves in new construction zones and areas, the gates cameras helped cut that down and many were caught. The cameras and gates are a great added security measure here.

golfing eagles 06-02-2024 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ithos (Post 2336791)
I would not want a system where non residents would have to be queried in some fashion before granted entry. This would just slow things down for everybody. The developers got this one right.

And isn't it true that photos are taken each time a vehicle enters and they have been used to catch thieves?

Did the developer get it right, or does the law deny a private entity the ability to question someone using a public road?

But based on some recent reports on this and other sites, I wish they would "query" some people intensely.

Sandy and Ed 06-02-2024 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by twoplanekid (Post 2336604)
My valid cloned gate card worked fine today, June 1st. I have asked District staff many times about what data is collected and who sees that data from using the gate cards. Every time I get the runaround to not get a answer to my direct questions.

Gates and gate cards are here to say. I don't mind gates as I am using using my cloned gate card in the mirror to auto open the gates.

The easy way to open a gate in The Villages - YouTube

Don’t hold your breath. That “cloned” card still needs to be listed as active on the system. Or was that a clone of your own card??

coffeebean 06-02-2024 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 2336410)
And depending on how you enter, go through the visitor side.....quicker to get in if speed is your need.

At a manned gate, sometimes visitors stop and ask questions which slows things down.

asianthree 06-02-2024 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2336810)
At a manned gate, sometimes visitors stop and ask questions which slows things down.

Even longer slow down when they think gates go up on their own. Drive past the button/card reader, and just sit for awhile waiting for the gate to go up :ohdear:

Happens everyday, until car behind open the gate for them, problem is the person still doesn’t understand how the gates work.

ithos 06-02-2024 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2336800)
Did the developer get it right, or does the law deny a private entity the ability to question someone using a public road?

But based on some recent reports on this and other sites, I wish they would "query" some people intensely.

That's interesting. Can you propose some criteria for screening non residents?

Altavia 06-02-2024 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MrChip72 (Post 2336776)
I've worked with RFID tech for 20+ years. Programmed cards, wrote code, etc.

Where are you getting any of this? What the heck is a "imbedded passive RF code"? If you don't know how to spell embedded properly, then there's zero chance you have much technical knowledge on this subject.

The cloned cards will still work.

Exactly!

Altavia 06-02-2024 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ithos (Post 2336791)
I would not want a system where non residents would have to be queried in some fashion before granted entry. This would just slow things down for everybody. The developers got this one right.

And isn't it true that photos are taken each time a vehicle enters and they have been used to catch thieves?

They are also using licence plate reading camera's in some construction areas and the street of dreams.

Joe C. 06-02-2024 07:03 AM

The only gate that REALLY is affected is the gate in the historical side that lets you in / out to get to BJ'S and Lowes. It's not manned and doesn't have a red button. So if you don't have an active card you're out of luck.

Janie123 06-02-2024 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2336416)
Over the last 18 years I have found the NON resident gate is the way to go ! Probably depends on who is manning the gates, time, location, but over all they definitely cater to the public traffic (lawn care, moving vans, appliance repair, visitors,curious, etc.

IMHO, the visitor side is to be used like the visitor parking spaces at businesses and church. It’s like opening the door for a guest.. be polite, use the right.

twoplanekid 06-02-2024 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2336806)
Don’t hold your breath. That “cloned” card still needs to be listed as active on the system. Or was that a clone of your own card??

In my case, the cloned card I am using is a clone of my issued card given to me during the purchase of my house in the Villages.

So, my personal cloned card should work until I sell my house. District staff seems to state that all cloned cards will not work which I believe is not correct. Waiting to see what happens at the end of June. :icon_wink:

dewilson58 06-02-2024 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2336353)
I received this from VCDD: (Please do not shoot the messenger....)

Jus trying to share information in a simple thread and +100 posts....all over the map.

:thumbup:

tophcfa 06-02-2024 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe C. (Post 2336835)
The only gate that REALLY is affected is the gate in the historical side that lets you in / out to get to BJ'S and Lowes. It's not manned and doesn't have a red button. So if you don't have an active card you're out of luck.

People sometimes wait for someone to go through that gate and get close behind them and ride their tail through the gate without using a valid card. When someone tries to do that behind me, I pause my cart until the gate begins to close so they can’t get through behind me. I’ve been flipped off a couple times for doing that, but it doesn’t bother me in the least.

Bill14564 06-02-2024 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2336929)
People sometimes wait for someone to go through that gate and get close behind them and ride their tail through the gate without using a valid card. When someone tries to do that behind me, I pause my cart until the gate begins to close so they can’t get through behind me. I’ve been flipped off a couple times for doing that, but it doesn’t bother me in the least.

I've never used that gate but I hope if I ever do that I'll remember to do the same thing.

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-02-2024 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Janie123 (Post 2336878)
IMHO, the visitor side is to be used like the visitor parking spaces at businesses and church. It’s like opening the door for a guest.. be polite, use the right.

It's also very useful if I'm taking a left immediately after the gate, since the visitor's lane is the left lane, and the resident's lane is the right lane.

Conversely - if I'm taking a right immediately after the gate, I always get in the resident's lane on the right.

At the Boone gate, it actually matters since the cross street is Paradise, and that's the main road that runs parallel to 441 on the Historic side. Traffic there can be pretty awkward. Cars coming in from 441 do NOT have a stop sign at the intersection. Their stop sign upon their approach to the gate. Once that gate is up, they are supposed to move and /not/ stop.


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