[Acordionist]

The associated maintenance costs of keeping the golf courses must constitute the highest portion of the amenities that ALL owners pay every month. Don't you think that it is only fair that non golfers should pay a lesser amount than golfers who enjoy that activity?

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Acordionist

The associated maintenance costs of keeping the golf courses must constitute the highest portion of the amenities that ALL owners pay every month. Don't you think that it is only fair that non golfers should pay a lesser amount than golfers who enjoy that activity?

Absolutely.

Residents who don't use the pools, should pay less.

Residents who don't play pickleball, shouldn't have to pay for the free pickle balls and the courts.

Residents who go to the Post Office for their mail, shouldn't have to pay for landscaping at the Mail Boxes.

What about people who don't have dogs, being required to pay for all those damn dog parks and poop bags that get used?

I live close to Sumter and never go South and have no intentions of it. Why am I paying for maintenance for all those bridges down there? I've never even been on one.

I'm pretty unhappy that I have to pay the same for trash removal, as the crazy lady across the street, who has 3 bags of trash, twice a week.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Absolutely.

Residents who don't use the pools, should pay less.

Residents who don't play pickleball, shouldn't have to pay for the free pickle balls and the courts.

Residents who go to the Post Office for their mail, shouldn't have to pay for landscaping at the Mail Boxes.

What about people who don't have dogs, being required to pay for all those damn dog parks and poop bags that get used?

I live close to Sumter and never go South and have no intentions of it. Why am I paying for maintenance for all those bridges down there? I've never even been on one.

I'm pretty unhappy that I have to pay the same for trash removal, as the crazy lady across the street, who has 3 bags of trash, twice a week.

Don’t forget your school tax

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by Acordionist

The associated maintenance costs of keeping the golf courses must constitute the highest portion of the amenities that ALL owners pay every month. Don't you think that it is only fair that non golfers should pay a lesser amount than golfers who enjoy that activity?

Again, a nonsense post that ignores the facts. Search this site from last year and you’ll find that a. County Commissioner posted the breakdown of our monthly amenity fees. A whopping $5-7/month goes to executive golf. You see, facts matter

[CybrSage]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

allergic to rakes and sand bottles

Hah, is that what that plastic, sand filled thing on my golf car is for? I don't play golf so I named it my emergency kitty litter holder.
If we were up north I would have said it was for when you get stuck in the snow.
Seriously, had no idea what it was for. Never would have thought I was supposed to fill a hole in the dirt with sand. Sounds rather counter productive, really.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Again, a nonsense post that ignores the facts. Search this site from last year and you’ll find that a. County Commissioner posted the breakdown of our monthly amenity fees. A whopping $5-7/month goes to executive golf. You see, facts matter

I just did a quick "back of the envelope" calculation, based on the # of homes, number of exec courses & maintenance per course. I came up with $8/month.

If anyone is really interested in how money gets wasted at the District level, go to one of their budget sessions, when Community Watch is discussed. Management thinks they're Howard Hunter (the SWAT team commander from Hill St. Blues) and we all know the CW staff is much more like the Keystone Cops.

Want to know how many garage doors they can check per minute of driving? They have the information. "17" if I recall correctly.

What to know how many miles and average CW vehicle drives per hour and at what speed? They have it.

Want to know how many cars they wave through a gate, in comparison to how many go through an operating gate? They can tell you.

What to know how many phone calls they have to make, per open garage door, before closure? They've got the #'s.

They have more organizational structure and more nonsense statistics than NYPD. What's worse, they can't wait to explain it, in excruciating detail, to anyone who will listen. I've been to 3 District Budget Meetings. In every instance, I've walked out after listening to the CW people for 10 minutes ... & CW still had over an hour to go.

[Lancer]

Originally Posted by Papa_lecki

Bad course conditions in season are due to incompetent maintenance

It’s also winter.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I live on a championship course as well, and everything you posted is true. I once watched someone take 6 shots to get out of the bunker behind my house, walking the entire length of the bunker, exiting on the far side tripping over a rake on the way out. I couldn't help myself---I ran out there, raked the trap, and yelled "you're welcome" to that clown. No acknowledgement whatsoever. He probably believed he "paid me" to rake his traps for him. This is an example of someone I would send straight to good golf school .

Hey, I got a par on the hole.

[Gpsma]

Golfers should be charged by their level of complaining.

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by CybrSage

Hah, is that what that plastic, sand filled thing on my golf car is for? I don't play golf so I named it my emergency kitty litter holder.
If we were up north I would have said it was for when you get stuck in the snow.
Seriously, had no idea what it was for. Never would have thought I was supposed to fill a hole in the dirt with sand. Sounds rather counter productive, really.

You didn't know what the bottle of sand was for......now you do.

This is to help your continued education. Below is why sand is used.....

If a divot does not have any soil attached, or if it has shattered into small pieces, it cannot be replaced and expected to heal properly. Filling the divot with divot mix is the best option in these situations. Depending on the course and the grass types, divot mix may be pure sand or it may contain seed to aid in recovery. Regardless of what's in the mix, the way to properly fill a divot is the same: Add mix until it is slightly below the height of the adjacent turf, then smooth the mix and press down with your foot. It is worth taking a few extra seconds to get the level just right. Too little mix will create poor playability and may not allow the divot to heal fully. Too much mix creates playability issues and can damage mowing equipment.

[Joe Mack]

Terrible idea.

[Joe Mack]

Originally Posted by UpNorth

Even at $1 per round it would chase some marginal players away. Right now it is "Freeloader Golf".

Actually it's not. It's people who paid for the privilege golf.

[justjim]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

Absolutely.

Residents who don't use the pools, should pay less.

Residents who don't play pickleball, shouldn't have to pay for the free pickle balls and the courts.

Residents who go to the Post Office for their mail, shouldn't have to pay for landscaping at the Mail Boxes.

What about people who don't have dogs, being required to pay for all those damn dog parks and poop bags that get used?

I live close to Sumter and never go South and have no intentions of it. Why am I paying for maintenance for all those bridges down there? I've never even been on one.

I'm pretty unhappy that I have to pay the same for trash removal, as the crazy lady across the street, who has 3 bags of trash, twice a week.

If you did your due diligence when you purchased your home in TV you knew the deed restrictions, cost of amenities, and the fact you pay for trash pickup even if your gone, etc. etc. Not much sympathy for those that don’t due diligence. As far as changing executive golf to “”pay” I’m afraid that ship has sailed!

[UpNorth]

So, plenty of snarky comments. What's your solution to lack of tee times during high season? Or slow play? Or poor course treatment by players? Or poor conditions? If nothing changes, expect "all of the above" to continue and possibly get worse.

[Papa_lecki]

Originally Posted by UpNorth

So, plenty of snarky comments. What's your solution to lack of tee times during high season? Or slow play? Or poor course treatment by players? Or poor conditions? If nothing changes, expect "all of the above" to continue and possibly get worse.

Lack of tee times - has to be done through the point system. Change the system so a player mathematically can play Executives 4 or 5 times a week. 4 is probably ok

Slow Play - nothing can be done, the rangers don’t have any authority.

Poor course treatment - nothing, same as above - maybe more rangers, but that costs $$$$

Poor course conditions - that’s the easiest, get real superintendents to over see maintenance of courses.