The facts about a possible increase in Executive Golf Trail Fees

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Trying to be helpful. If you have more questions you could look at that site. Then you can find your own answers..........................

Little touchy this morning???
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Trying to be helpful. If you have more questions you could look at that site. Then you can find your own answers..........................

Little touchy this morning???
Everyone living here permanently and snowbirds should have this bookmarked;

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Trying to be helpful. If you have more questions you could look at that site. Then you can find your own answers..........................

Little touchy this morning???
No, not really touchy, but was looking for an answer to two questions, not a referral to websites that would answer a whole bunch of questions not germane to this discussion.

Your answer would have been really helpful if the question had been, "Hey, where can I go to learn everything there is to know about golf in the Villages"...

More helpful to me would've been the answer to the two simple questions asked.

Thanks for the references, but again, not what I asked.
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No, not really touchy, but was looking for an answer to two questions, not a referral to websites that would answer a whole bunch of questions not germane to this discussion.

Your answer would have been really helpful if the question had been, "Hey, where can I go to learn everything there is to know about golf in the Villages"...

More helpful to me would've been the answer to the two simple questions asked.

Thanks for the references, but again, not what I asked.
$105.93
HOUSEHOLD
SIX MONTH
(Includes $6.93 tax)
$141.24
HOUSEHOLD
ANNUAL
(Includes $9.24 tax)
$20.00
HOUSEHOLD
MONTHLY
(Includes $1.31 tax)
$105.93
ANNUAL
PRIORITY*
MEMBER
(Includes $6.93 tax)
* If (1) Resident has
purchased a Country Club
Golf Membership
$79.44
SIX MONTH
PRIORITY*
MEMBER
(Includes $5.20 tax)
* If (1) Resident has
purchased a Country Club
Golf Membership


No charge if you walk.


Is there anything else I could research for you?
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so...

answers to my questions....$4/ round, you don't pay if you aren't taking a cart, and a household yearly trail fee is $141.24.

So a couple who each play 2 times a week would be playing approximately 200 rounds and paying an average trail fee of 70 cents per round. I'm sure there are couples who average more than that, and their per round contribution to the trail fee fund is even less.

How would that compare to a couple who has a full year Priority Membership, and maybe only play occasionally on executive courses.
My guess is that they are paying a much higher per round contribution to the trail fee fund than the first couple.
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$105.93
HOUSEHOLD
SIX MONTH
(Includes $6.93 tax)
$141.24
HOUSEHOLD
ANNUAL
(Includes $9.24 tax)
$20.00
HOUSEHOLD
MONTHLY
(Includes $1.31 tax)
$105.93
ANNUAL
PRIORITY*
MEMBER
(Includes $6.93 tax)
* If (1) Resident has
purchased a Country Club
Golf Membership
$79.44
SIX MONTH
PRIORITY*
MEMBER
(Includes $5.20 tax)
* If (1) Resident has
purchased a Country Club
Golf Membership


No charge if you walk.


Is there anything else I could research for you?
thanks, that was sweet of you. (but I didn't ask you to research it for me. You did that on your own but I do appreciate it).
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Old 06-11-2021, 11:54 AM
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so...

answers to my questions....$4/ round, you don't pay if you aren't taking a cart, and a household yearly trail fee is $141.24.

So a couple who each play 2 times a week would be playing approximately 200 rounds and paying an average trail fee of 70 cents per round. I'm sure there are couples who average more than that, and their per round contribution to the trail fee fund is even less.

How would that compare to a couple who has a full year Priority Membership, and maybe only play occasionally on executive courses.
My guess is that they are paying a much higher per round contribution to the trail fee fund than the first couple.
As a priority member, in 2020 & 2021 we played executive 30 times, so about $4.71 per play. From 2010 to 2019 as a priority member, we played executive 54 times, so definitely lost money on those years
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So what will happen, if The Greedy Developer must pay 100% of the Trail Fee, is the Trail Fee will be separated from the Priority Membership. The Priority Membership will become less expensive (by about 65% of the trail fee). PWAC will get 0% of Priority Members Trail Fee, and Priority Members will need to make a cost/benefit of paying the trail fee. It seems like a lot less than 100% of the priority members will take a Trail Fee - so PWAC will lose revenue and have to raise the Trail Fee, if not next year, in two years.
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I counted the number of rounds I played on the Executive, where I would have paid a trail fee (I walk a lot or play a few hole in the evening with my wife). I paid $8.75 per round (based on 75% of the trail fee).
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I would suggest the discount is justified. I have a priority golf membership and play a championship course two times per week. So far this year I have played an executive course two times. I have not complained about the executive trail fee being included in the Priority Golf fee even though I play very few executive golf rounds per year. However, it would be more beneficial to me I could choose to pay for only Priority Golf Membership for championship courses and pay an individual trail fee each time I play an executive course. If push comes to shove, the PWAC/CDD/amenities group may end up getting less money by pushing their course of action to get 100%. Always told to think before you leap.
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As a snowbird I have/had the 6 month Priority Membership this year. I may have played Executive Courses 3, possibly 4 times; and walked every time. Given the option to not pay the trail fee with the PM, I would certainly take that option.
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We've been Priority Members for 6 years. During that time, my wife and I played ONE Executive course together and I played 1 by myself. If my Priority membership gets cheaper by dropping the Trail fee that's a huge win for me and a loss of $140 dollars to the PWAC. Beware the Law Of Unintended Consequences.
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No, not really touchy, but was looking for an answer to two questions, not a referral to websites that would answer a whole bunch of questions not germane to this discussion.

Your answer would have been really helpful if the question had been, "Hey, where can I go to learn everything there is to know about golf in the Villages"...

More helpful to me would've been the answer to the two simple questions asked.

Thanks for the references, but again, not what I asked.
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thanks, that was sweet of you. (but I didn't ask you to research it for me. You did that on your own but I do appreciate it).
Uh, seems like it to me.
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