[HIgolfers]

I just received a Vmail that Fenney Rec Center will undergo renovations starting Mar 5. Plans include expanding the Fitness Center, adding card and club meeting room and billiards and shuffleboard. How could this Rec Center need renovations so quickly? And who pays for this? There is a link for more info to district.gov website so that tells me our Amenity fees are paying for this?

Is this typical? Developer builds a bare bones facility and then shortly after buildout of that area, expansion, renovation has to be funded by residents?

[vintageogauge]

It was not a bare bones facility, it was used as a sales office for over 3 years and is no longer needed in that capacity. This is not going to be funded by the residents, TV is still in control down here and this renovation was planned from day one.. This is a positive thing happening and you are making it out to be negative.

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

It was not a bare bones facility, it was used as a sales office for over 3 years and is no longer needed in that capacity. This is not going to be funded by the residents, TV is still in control down here and this renovation was planned from day one.. This is a positive thing happening and you are making it out to be negative.

What he said!

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by higolfers

i just received a vmail that fenney rec center will undergo renovations starting mar 5. Plans include expanding the fitness center, adding card and club meeting room and billiards and shuffleboard. How could this rec center need renovations so quickly? And who pays for this? There is a link for more info to district.gov website so that tells me our amenity fees are paying for this?

Is this typical? Developer builds a bare bones facility and then shortly after buildout of that area, expansion, renovation has to be funded by residents?

wow!

[Goldwingnut]

The developer owns the amenities south of SR44, they are responsible for 100% of the maintenance and operating costs, including ANY expansion costs. If you live south of SR44 your amenity fee is paid to the developer. The developer in turn pays the SLAD (Sumter Landing Amenity Division) and RAD (Recreation Amenities Division) the operating costs incurred by the Recreation Department to staff and operate the facilities for them.

Here's a little secret you may have forgotten since moving into your little bubble, the developer is doing all of this to make a profit! It's a business for them. Profit is not a dirty word, it is the reality that allowed each and every one of us living here to be able to live here, if you think otherwise, you are only fooling yourself.

So, let's get back to the question at hand, who is paying for this expansion? The reality is that the developer is paying for it out of their profits. Some will argue that the residents are paying for this, in a way you are correct, you signed a contract and agreed to pay the amenity fee for as long as you live here, get over it! Did you amenity fee go up because of this? NO. If the majority of the residents asked for this expansion, only then could the amenity fee be raised, read your deed restrictions, this is in there. Since they didn't ask for the expansion, the residents will not be impacted or charged for the expansion.

Are the Amenity Fees from north of SR44 paying for any of this? NO. These funds do not support the amenities south of SR44 because their amenity contracts are owned by either the SLAD or the RAD, NOT THE DEVELOPER. The developer owns the facilities and the amenity contracts with the residents. The residents do not own the amenities, or the amenity fee contracts so the statement by O P that "...our Amenity fee is paying for this" is incorrect, it is not "our" money to spend. The O P's final statement is also both incorrect and little more than biased and unsubstantiated developer bashing.

Take the time to learn how the system works before complaining about it or making false and unfounded statements out of ignorance.

One last thought, you should feed damn lucky that these expansions are being done for you and at no cost to you. The developer has no obligation or requirement to do the expansions and could have just as easily said no to this work and you would have not known the difference.

[Topspinmo]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

The developer owns the amenities south of SR44, they are responsible for 100% of the maintenance and operating costs, including ANY expansion costs. If you live south of SR44 your amenity fee is paid to the developer. The developer in turn pays the SLAD (Sumter Landing Amenity Division) and RAD (Recreation Amenities Division) the operating costs incurred by the Recreation Department to staff and operate the facilities for them.

Here's a little secret you may have forgotten since moving into your little bubble, the developer is doing all of this to make a profit! It's a business for them. Profit is not a dirty word, it is the reality that allowed each and every one of us living here to be able to live here, if you think otherwise, you are only fooling yourself.

So, let's get back to the question at hand, who is paying for this expansion? The reality is that the developer is paying for it out of their profits. Some will argue that the residents are paying for this, in a way you are correct, you signed a contract and agreed to pay the amenity fee for as long as you live here, get over it! Did you amenity fee go up because of this? NO. If the majority of the residents asked for this expansion, only then could the amenity fee be raised, read your deed restrictions, this is in there. Since they didn't ask for the expansion, the residents will not be impacted or charged for the expansion.

Are the Amenity Fees from north of SR44 paying for any of this? NO. These funds do not support the amenities south of SR44 because their amenity contracts are owned by either the SLAD or the RAD, NOT THE DEVELOPER. The developer owns the facilities and the amenity contracts with the residents. The residents do not own the amenities, or the amenity fee contracts so the statement by O P that "...our Amenity fee is paying for this" is incorrect, it is not "our" money to spend. The O P's final statement is also both incorrect and little more than biased and unsubstantiated developer bashing.

Take the time to learn how the system works before complaining about it or making false and unfounded statements out of ignorance.

One last thought, you should feed damn lucky that these expansions are being done for you and at no cost to you. The developer has no obligation or requirement to do the expansions and could have just as easily said no to this work and you would have not known the difference.

So what you’re saying is “THE amenities FEES ARE PAYING FOR IT. So all living south of 44 are paying for it in roundabout way until the developers sell it to CDD for wrapping profit which residents paid for to begin with, please apologize for calling someone ignorant.

[vintageogauge]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

The developer owns the amenities south of SR44, they are responsible for 100% of the maintenance and operating costs, including ANY expansion costs. If you live south of SR44 your amenity fee is paid to the developer. The developer in turn pays the SLAD (Sumter Landing Amenity Division) and RAD (Recreation Amenities Division) the operating costs incurred by the Recreation Department to staff and operate the facilities for them.

Here's a little secret you may have forgotten since moving into your little bubble, the developer is doing all of this to make a profit! It's a business for them. Profit is not a dirty word, it is the reality that allowed each and every one of us living here to be able to live here, if you think otherwise, you are only fooling yourself.

So, let's get back to the question at hand, who is paying for this expansion? The reality is that the developer is paying for it out of their profits. Some will argue that the residents are paying for this, in a way you are correct, you signed a contract and agreed to pay the amenity fee for as long as you live here, get over it! Did you amenity fee go up because of this? NO. If the majority of the residents asked for this expansion, only then could the amenity fee be raised, read your deed restrictions, this is in there. Since they didn't ask for the expansion, the residents will not be impacted or charged for the expansion.

Are the Amenity Fees from north of SR44 paying for any of this? NO. These funds do not support the amenities south of SR44 because their amenity contracts are owned by either the SLAD or the RAD, NOT THE DEVELOPER. The developer owns the facilities and the amenity contracts with the residents. The residents do not own the amenities, or the amenity fee contracts so the statement by O P that "...our Amenity fee is paying for this" is incorrect, it is not "our" money to spend. The O P's final statement is also both incorrect and little more than biased and unsubstantiated developer bashing.

Take the time to learn how the system works before complaining about it or making false and unfounded statements out of ignorance.

One last thought, you should feed damn lucky that these expansions are being done for you and at no cost to you. The developer has no obligation or requirement to do the expansions and could have just as easily said no to this work and you would have not known the difference.

And that's the name of that tune. Thanks for your usual educated explanation Don. By the way they are putting in the street lights and stop signs in Hammock.

[bob47]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

The developer owns the amenities south of SR44, they are responsible for 100% of the maintenance and operating costs, including ANY expansion costs. If you live south of SR44 your amenity fee is paid to the developer. The developer in turn pays the SLAD (Sumter Landing Amenity Division) and RAD (Recreation Amenities Division) the operating costs incurred by the Recreation Department to staff and operate the facilities for them.

Here's a little secret you may have forgotten since moving into your little bubble, the developer is doing all of this to make a profit! It's a business for them. Profit is not a dirty word, it is the reality that allowed each and every one of us living here to be able to live here, if you think otherwise, you are only fooling yourself.

So, let's get back to the question at hand, who is paying for this expansion? The reality is that the developer is paying for it out of their profits. Some will argue that the residents are paying for this, in a way you are correct, you signed a contract and agreed to pay the amenity fee for as long as you live here, get over it! Did you amenity fee go up because of this? NO. If the majority of the residents asked for this expansion, only then could the amenity fee be raised, read your deed restrictions, this is in there. Since they didn't ask for the expansion, the residents will not be impacted or charged for the expansion.

Are the Amenity Fees from north of SR44 paying for any of this? NO. These funds do not support the amenities south of SR44 because their amenity contracts are owned by either the SLAD or the RAD, NOT THE DEVELOPER. The developer owns the facilities and the amenity contracts with the residents. The residents do not own the amenities, or the amenity fee contracts so the statement by O P that "...our Amenity fee is paying for this" is incorrect, it is not "our" money to spend. The O P's final statement is also both incorrect and little more than biased and unsubstantiated developer bashing.

Take the time to learn how the system works before complaining about it or making false and unfounded statements out of ignorance.

One last thought, you should feed damn lucky that these expansions are being done for you and at no cost to you. The developer has no obligation or requirement to do the expansions and could have just as easily said no to this work and you would have not known the difference.

I don't think what you're saying is strictly accurate because the developer's profits have not been established yet. They will be established when he sells the facilities to some central district. So, it's quite likely that the more he has spent on these facilities, the higher their valuation will be when they are sold.

[HIgolfers]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

It was not a bare bones facility, it was used as a sales office for over 3 years and is no longer needed in that capacity. This is not going to be funded by the residents, TV is still in control down here and this renovation was planned from day one.. This is a positive thing happening and you are making it out to be negative.

No, I was asking a question. Thanks for all the responses.

[vintageogauge]

Originally Posted by HIgolfers

No, I was asking a question. Thanks for all the responses.

And you got an answer.

[CarrieOn]

Originally Posted by vintageogauge

It was not a bare bones facility, it was used as a sales office for over 3 years and is no longer needed in that capacity. This is not going to be funded by the residents, TV is still in control down here and this renovation was planned from day one.. This is a positive thing happening and you are making it out to be negative.

Heads up..this is going to happen to Everglades as well when the sales areas are no longer needed!! Good for us!! Not who’s paying for this.

[bncuhler@verizon.net]

Don, I have been wondering why there are no directional signs anywhere South of the Turnpike-coming in and out of the tunnels and along the multi-modal paths. All of Meggasin already has signs as does all of the areas between the Turnpike and 44. Is there someone we could contact to remedy this? It’s a safety issue and will be more important once the Water Lily bridge opens. Thank you!

[HoosierPa]

Retired people with too much spare time

[CarrieOn]

Originally Posted by HIgolfers

I just received a Vmail that Fenney Rec Center will undergo renovations starting Mar 5. Plans include expanding the Fitness Center, adding card and club meeting room and billiards and shuffleboard. How could this Rec Center need renovations so quickly? And who pays for this? There is a link for more info to district.gov website so that tells me our Amenity fees are paying for this?

Is this typical? Developer builds a bare bones facility and then shortly after buildout of that area, expansion, renovation has to be funded by residents?

This is where rumors start & stupid destructive documentaries are made..ugh

[Cobullymom]

Originally Posted by Goldwingnut

The developer owns the amenities south of SR44, they are responsible for 100% of the maintenance and operating costs, including ANY expansion costs. If you live south of SR44 your amenity fee is paid to the developer. The developer in turn pays the SLAD (Sumter Landing Amenity Division) and RAD (Recreation Amenities Division) the operating costs incurred by the Recreation Department to staff and operate the facilities for them.

Here's a little secret you may have forgotten since moving into your little bubble, the developer is doing all of this to make a profit! It's a business for them. Profit is not a dirty word, it is the reality that allowed each and every one of us living here to be able to live here, if you think otherwise, you are only fooling yourself.

So, let's get back to the question at hand, who is paying for this expansion? The reality is that the developer is paying for it out of their profits. Some will argue that the residents are paying for this, in a way you are correct, you signed a contract and agreed to pay the amenity fee for as long as you live here, get over it! Did you amenity fee go up because of this? NO. If the majority of the residents asked for this expansion, only then could the amenity fee be raised, read your deed restrictions, this is in there. Since they didn't ask for the expansion, the residents will not be impacted or charged for the expansion.

Are the Amenity Fees from north of SR44 paying for any of this? NO. These funds do not support the amenities south of SR44 because their amenity contracts are owned by either the SLAD or the RAD, NOT THE DEVELOPER. The developer owns the facilities and the amenity contracts with the residents. The residents do not own the amenities, or the amenity fee contracts so the statement by O P that "...our Amenity fee is paying for this" is incorrect, it is not "our" money to spend. The O P's final statement is also both incorrect and little more than biased and unsubstantiated developer bashing.

Take the time to learn how the system works before complaining about it or making false and unfounded statements out of ignorance.

One last thought, you should feed damn lucky that these expansions are being done for you and at no cost to you. The developer has no obligation or requirement to do the expansions and could have just as easily said no to this work and you would have not known the difference.

Love this guy...thank you!