Florida Oks use of radioactive waste to pave roads

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Old 07-02-2023, 05:40 AM
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They are only doing a one year study on the feasibility of using phosphogypsum. After that they will still need approval from the EPA. Relax people!
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Old 07-02-2023, 07:50 AM
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No Bogie Shooter, you’re exactly what I’m trying to figure out. If this is the solution why haven’t they been doing this yrs. ago if the could use radioactive waste. There must be a reason, not saying they can’t but I’m just thinking because most of us think radioactive material is dangerous, that’s why I was wondering is this a Fake comment & is this for real!
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Old 07-02-2023, 10:47 AM
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Good grief! Have any of you read the bill? Here's, verbatim, the first seven lines of it:

An act relating to the use of phosphogypsum; amending
3 s. 336.044, F.S.; authorizing the Department of
4 Transportation to undertake demonstration projects
5 using phosphogypsum in road construction aggregate
6 material to determine its feasibility as a paving
7 material;

It's a feasibility study, not an authorization for use.
Sensible people take the fun out of everything! You don't need to read the article to make fun of the headline. Sheesh! Get a funny bone.
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Old 07-02-2023, 10:55 AM
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~~ Just so you know ~~
Radon is naturally occurring in granite to all of you who have granite countertops in your kitchen and baths.
That explains the extra ear on my forehead.
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So we will now have Radon Roads in addition to having phosphogypsum in our aquifers?

"EPA has determined that phosphogypsum poses a cancer risk from its radon emissions. Major sinkholes in phosphogypsum stacks have released millions of gallons of process wastewater and an undetermined amount of phosphogypsum into the Floridan aquifer. EPA has declared a Mississippi fertilizer plant and phosphogypsum stack system a Superfund site, and a phos- phogypsum stack in Louisiana has been moving laterally since January 2019, putting surround- ing communities and farms at risk"

From: https://www.biologicaldiversity.org/...-factsheet.pdf
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They are only doing a one year study on the feasibility of using phosphogypsum. After that they will still need approval from the EPA. Relax people!
They're wasting taxpayer money on a study on the feasibility of something the EPA has already said "please don't do that."
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They're wasting taxpayer money on a study on the feasibility of something the EPA has already said "please don't do that."
Phosphogypsum was approved for road use by the EPA in October 2020 in the previous administration. That approval was rescinded in 2021.

Request to Use Phosphogypsum in Government Road Projects: Supporting Documents | US EPA
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Phosphogypsum was approved for road use by the EPA in October 2020 in the previous administration. That approval was rescinded in 2021.

Request to Use Phosphogypsum in Government Road Projects: Supporting Documents | US EPA
Right. Thanks for posting the link. It supports my previous post - that our state's leader wastes money on a feasibility study for something that the EPA has already said - don't do that.
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Right. Thanks for posting the link. It supports my previous post - that our state's leader wastes money on a feasibility study for something that the EPA has already said - don't do that.
No idea how this thread survives with all the political BS
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Old 07-02-2023, 08:12 PM
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No idea how this thread survives with all the political BS
Because it's not political. This fact would still be factual, if the state's leader was someone else or was a member of any other political party. It would be factual if it happened in another state. When the EPA says "you can't do this thing" it means - there's no need or reason to spend a single dime of taxpayer money on a study to determine whether or not this thing is feasible. It is already determined to be NOT feasible, by the EPA.

If it was a Democrat governor my opinion would be exactly the same. Don't waste taxpayer dollars on a feasibility study for something the EPA has already said you can't do.
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Right. Thanks for posting the link. It supports my previous post - that our state's leader wastes money on a feasibility study for something that the EPA has already said - don't do that.
You do know that the current administration unilaterally rescinded many things approved by the previous administration just as a matter of course? Nothing to do with it being proven good or bad, just politics. Id like to see a study.
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So now we have a response to a Florida Bill the governor signed in response to a question about how to use a material deemed to be hazardous , that sits in piles in many places in Florida. Think about that. It already exists and continues to grow.

Why did this forum post start? Because the OP started with a news article that was deliberately misstating the intent of Florida bill HB 1191. "DeSantis signs bill allowing new roads to be built with mining waste linked to cancer BY OLAFIMIHAN OSHIN - 06/29/23 9:43 PM ET."

That was not the intention of the Bill HB1191 at all as mentioned in previous posts. IT IS A STUDY.

And now we get a comment about how the governor will abuse any federal law. What would one say if we made the same statement about a President regarding some of His/Her attempts to do whatever they want?

We all have opinions, but we have been advised to use care and facts.
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Looks like it is just a study so you will not soon be stuck driving a Radon Road. Any use would need to be EPA approved. 'Radioactive' roads: DeSantis signs law to test phosphogypsum
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Because it's not political. This fact would still be factual, if the state's leader was someone else or was a member of any other political party. It would be factual if it happened in another state. When the EPA says "you can't do this thing" it means - there's no need or reason to spend a single dime of taxpayer money on a study to determine whether or not this thing is feasible. It is already determined to be NOT feasible, by the EPA.

If it was a Democrat governor my opinion would be exactly the same. Don't waste taxpayer dollars on a feasibility study for something the EPA has already said you can't do.
So, IF I posted that only an idiot would push to forgive $3 trillion in student loans that were legally contracted that's not political either????
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