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bobnyce 01-15-2021 09:46 AM

Carts
 
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Originally Posted by Joanne19335 (Post 1887624)
I may have witnessed this incident. Another car was coming his way at the time and he had to get in front of you quickly only to slow down and make a left turn into Walgreens. Very dangerous. This could have ended badly.

Has anyone been on Bichara Ave. lately? It is a 20 MPH speed limit for cars and carts. Cars go at least 40 and with all the restaurant turn-in's look out the cars will cut you off at the entrance like you do not even exist.

Oh yes, then there are the cross streets with no stop signs on Bichara Ave. Guess what, you better stop in your cart and cross carefully or you will be crushed by a vehicle crossing Bichara. Carts beware!!!

LianneMigiano 01-15-2021 09:49 AM

😰 Didn't you know..... They are going to get to bed 5 minutes earlier!

John_W 01-15-2021 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bobnyce (Post 1887759)
Has anyone been on Bichara Ave. lately? It is a 20 MPH speed limit for cars and carts. Cars go at least 40 and with all the restaurant turn-in's look out the cars will cut you off at the entrance like you do not even exist.

You're absolutely correct. I remember about two years ago several posters complained about getting tickets for going 26 on Bichara. That's the road with Applebees, Burger King, KFC/Taco Bell, AAA Office and a whole bunch of businesses, and going 40 mph is dangerous. Yes, getting a ticket for going only going 6 mph over the speed limit is tough, but it's really necessary on that stretch of road.

OhioBuckeye 01-15-2021 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 1887477)
I love driving in my golf cart but these donkeys that need to go 25, 30 or 35 mph passing people causing issues for other following the rules. What is the rush unless they are in a hurry to die. We like to enjoy ourselves and do go 20-21but I don’t understand the rush. The one that had to pass me tonight proceeded to then turn 20 feet down the road.

Garywt - you took my thoughts right out of my mind. I always thought driving 5 mph faster than what the legal speed limit is & driving 5 miles to the golf course or going home to lay on the couch will only save them MAYBE 4 or 5 min. in a 5 mile drive. How many times have you seen the police have a cart pulled over? We lived in TV for 8 yrs. &
I only saw 2 carts pulled over in that time. Speeding threats in paper are just scare tactics. Just like everything else TV doesn’t want make anybody mad to wear they don’t like TV. TV is a privilege to live there but if TV have rules follow them, the rules there aren’t that bad!

Bilyclub 01-15-2021 10:10 AM

Another thread that turns into telling the Police what they should do. I think they are doing a fine job keeping all the meth heads, thieves and Villager's crazy children under control.

ONTAP15 01-15-2021 10:12 AM

Why were you speeding on BVB?

Heytubes 01-15-2021 10:17 AM

Use your gps on your smart phone as it has a speedometer or download one of the freebies.

Gecklers2020 01-15-2021 10:24 AM

Agreed! On our first venture out on the cart path we were passed by someone who nearly had a head on collision with a cart going the opposite direction!! Relax people!

DAVES 01-15-2021 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 1887477)
I love driving in my golf cart but these donkeys that need to go 25, 30 or 35 mph passing people causing issues for other following the rules. What is the rush unless they are in a hurry to die. We like to enjoy ourselves and do go 20-21but I don’t understand the rush. The one that had to pass me tonight proceeded to then turn 20 feet down the road.

An endless issue. People do not will not follow rules unless they are enforced and they are not.
I'm not sure how it goes. I do understand that if you are caught speeding it will cost you around $500. Imagine a police officer in traffic court. Your honor I clocked his red yamaha doing 30 mph. His plate number? There are no plates your honor.

No solution will be perfect. Plates? Random stops to check your speed setting?
Perhaps, like drunk driving in some places you loose your car if you are caught driving drunk. My cart is set at the legal speed. I had one damn fool in a blue golf cart so ****ed she followed me home.

A problem. As you read the posts remember these are the people that you/we face.

Heytubes 01-15-2021 10:32 AM

Also Villages GPS you pay $7 for has speedometer

dhdallas 01-15-2021 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 1887538)
I'd love to see the cops show up some day and radar these unregistered motor vehicles (carts that can exceed 20mph). They would certainly rake in some dough handing out $250 tickets, and the courts will add to it to the tune of around $500. My cart cannot go faster than the legal speed limit of 20mph, but I get passed all the time by some Yamaha that will do 23mph. There is a reason for the 20mph limit - the brakes, suspension etc of a golf cart is not designed to be safe at speeds faster than this.

“Any fool can make a rule
And any fool will mind it.”
― Henry David Thoreau, Journal #14

dhdallas 01-15-2021 10:43 AM

Rules are meant to be broken - General Douglas MacArthur
 
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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1887753)
Your batting 0 for 2. It's considered driving an unregistered vehicle and is a second degree misdemeanor with fines up to $500 and 60 days in jail. Normally first offense at the courthouse in Bushnell is about $450 and no jail time. Don't wear shorts or you'll sit all day in court and be called last. Also you'll need to bring a letter from a golf cart mechanic certifying your cart has been dialed back to the legal speed of less than 20 mph.

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dhdallas 01-15-2021 10:44 AM

Rules are meant to be broken - General Douglas MacArthur
 
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Originally Posted by Garywt (Post 1887477)
I love driving in my golf cart but these donkeys that need to go 25, 30 or 35 mph passing people causing issues for other following the rules. What is the rush unless they are in a hurry to die. We like to enjoy ourselves and do go 20-21but I don’t understand the rush. The one that had to pass me tonight proceeded to then turn 20 feet down the road.

“The greatest crimes in the world are not committed by people breaking the rules but by people following the rules.”
― Banksy
“I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.”

― Robert A. Heinlein

Topspinmo 01-15-2021 10:46 AM

I feel they are breaking the law and should be ticketed. What we need are portable speed radar that records speed and photos of car and license and automatically send out tickets. That only thing going slow habitual speeders down.

DAVES 01-15-2021 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 1887769)
Garywt - you took my thoughts right out of my mind. I always thought driving 5 mph faster than what the legal speed limit is & driving 5 miles to the golf course or going home to lay on the couch will only save them MAYBE 4 or 5 min. in a 5 mile drive. How many times have you seen the police have a cart pulled over? We lived in TV for 8 yrs. &
I only saw 2 carts pulled over in that time. Speeding threats in paper are just scare tactics. Just like everything else TV doesn’t want make anybody mad to wear they don’t like TV. TV is a privilege to live there but if TV have rules follow them, the rules there aren’t that bad!

Re: speeding threats.
You do not need to catch everyone. You do need to catch enough so that it is a REAL threat. Far as a golf cart, you do need to be a certain age, sober etc but you do not need to have plates or a license. Thus, issuing a ticket, I don't know what is needed but it is obviously difficult-perhaps why it isn't often done.
As stated in another post of mine. Imagine a cop in traffic court. He was in a red yamaha doing 25 mph. Hum, how do you know it was him? Plate-none. License-none.
How did you determine he was doing 25. Well I blocked traffic while I used my speedometer. When was your speedometer ever checked that it properly reads 25 mph?

As to saving five minutes over a five mile trip, likely it is far less than that. There are stop signs. There are legal drivers in front of you etc. I doubt it but hopefully someone with think and wonder. They are what they are and likely were always like that,


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