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Bilyclub 01-11-2022 09:13 AM

Can't wait to get rid of the Linear garbage. The numbers of the keypad don't even light up. Two tiny led's at the top don't provide much illumination.

coffeebean 01-11-2022 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by zmarkp (Post 2048332)
So a friend of mine gave a trusted contractor her garage keypad code so he could get in when she wasn't home. He called her back and said he knew exactly what her code was because those keys were cleaner than the others! He advised her to clean all the keypad keys regularly. I'm doing mine right now.

I get figuring out which four keys are in the code but figuring out the sequence of those numbers takes some time and doing.

Wyseguy 01-11-2022 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 2048340)
24.

I THINK it would be 24 possible combinations, assuming you can only use each of the 4 numbers one time.
If you know the four digits used, AND you can only use each number one time, punching twenty four codes in is certainly doable.

Dana1963 01-11-2022 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2048492)
Can't wait to get rid of the Linear garbage. The numbers of the keypad don't even light up. Two tiny led's at the top don't provide much illumination.

Helen Keller had the same problem

Davonu 01-11-2022 09:31 AM

Again, we're assuming 4 clean keys.

If you could repeat digits, that would increase the number quite a bit...4x4x4x4=256 possible combinations.

But since the scenario describes 4 clean keys, we're back to 24 because repeating numbers would leave fewer than 4 clean keys. :)

TCNY61 01-11-2022 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by toeser (Post 2048411)
Since a sophisticated thief can see what keys have fingerprints, I periodically touch all keys on any combination lock.

My keypad uses four digits and then you need to press any forth digit. I always pick a different key for the last digit.

dewilson58 01-11-2022 09:44 AM

Somebody count.................how many posters say 24 combinations and let everyone know how many more times this needs to be posted. Thank You. :popcorn:

OhioBuckeye 01-11-2022 10:08 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zmarkp (Post 2048332)
So a friend of mine gave a trusted contractor her garage keypad code so he could get in when she wasn't home. He called her back and said he knew exactly what her code was because those keys were cleaner than the others! He advised her to clean all the keypad keys regularly. I'm doing mine right now.

Very honest friend! But the 4 symbols have a lot of combinations. But very good advice. From the 8 yrs. we lived there, I couldn’t believe how many dishonest contractors there were. This person is a good friend to have!

cherylncliff 01-11-2022 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 2048335)
How many combinations are there when using 4 digits? He did not know exactly what the code was and no need to keep them clean.

With 4 known keys of unknown order there are 24 possible codes. Most keypads lock you out for 30 to 60 seconds after entering a wrong code. I just checked my keypad (now 10 years old) and I cannot discern any difference on the keys. Not sure this is a real issue but it can't hurt to clean the keys as long as you do not get any liquid inside the device.

gmdds 01-11-2022 10:15 AM

Almost
 
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Originally Posted by Mleeja (Post 2048361)
The question was how many combinations using 4 digits. In the original post, it said the person knew from the wear pattern which four digits were used.

If using 0-9 there are 10,000 combinations. Using 0-9, there are 5040 4 digit combinations.

You almost got it….if the numbers can be repeated, then there are 10,000 possible combinations with 0-9 being the numbers.

gmdds 01-11-2022 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by gmdds (Post 2048535)
You almost got it….if the numbers can be repeated, then there are 10,000 possible combinations with 0-9 being the numbers.

10x10x10x10…or 10 to the 4th power.

Lottoguy 01-11-2022 10:19 AM

FYI never eat BBQ chicken and this hit those keys. Your welcome...

Bogie Shooter 01-11-2022 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2048516)
Somebody count.................how many posters say 24 combinations and let everyone know how many more times this needs to be posted. Thank You. :popcorn:

I have accepted your request, and with some effort I found that there have been 9* posts emphatically saying the answer is 24.
Probably another 6 posts need to be posted.

Note: Not included in the above count was the one indicating 24.......that came after your post!
*All data subject to visual recount by qualified neutral third party.

Mleeja 01-11-2022 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gmdds (Post 2048535)
You almost got it….if the numbers can be repeated, then there are 10,000 possible combinations with 0-9 being the numbers.

I guess I should have been a little clearer.

There are 10,000 combinations of four numbers when numbers are used multiple times in a combination. And there are 5,040 combinations of four numbers when numbers are used only once.

Mleeja 01-11-2022 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by gmdds (Post 2048535)
You almost got it….if the numbers can be repeated, then there are 10,000 possible combinations with 0-9 being the numbers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2048540)
I have accepted your request, and with some effort I found that there have been 9* posts emphatically saying the answer is 24.
Probably another 6 posts need to be posted.

Note: Not included in the above count was the one indicating 24.......that came after your post!
*All data subject to visual recount by qualified neutral third party.

I agree! I just don’t like people telling me (and Google) that I am wrong. Just trying to make sure all has informed and accurate information! :icon_wink:


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