[Barefoot]

Steve Oelrich was a Senator.
Is this just a political ploy?
It's not surprising that an attempt is being made to muddy the waters.
In my opinion, it's dirty pool to imply that Villagers are "anti Veteran",
just because most are against giving Stoners access to Village golf-cart paths.

[Carl in Tampa]

If someone wants The Villages "lifestyle" and use of the PRIVATELY OWNED AMENITIES, like the multi-modal paths, the solution is simple.

Buy a home in The Villages.

The rant about access to the VA clinic is a red herring.


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[CFrance]

Originally Posted by Barefoot

Steve Oelrich was a Senator.
Is this just a political ploy?
It's not surprising that an attempt is being made to muddy the waters.
In my opinion, it's dirty pool to imply that Villagers are "anti Veteran",
just because most are against giving Stoners access to Village golf-cart paths.

Originally Posted by Carl in Tampa

If someone wants The Villages "lifestyle" and use of the PRIVATELY OWNED AMENITIES, like the multi-modal paths, the solution is simple.

Buy a home in The Villages.

The rant about access to the VA clinic is a red herring.


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I agree with both of you. The Senator is seizing a political opportunity in the light of the current bad VA publicity, and the group coming together claiming they are having access denied to the VA is being disingenuous. They basically want their shortcut back.

I believe they will have a very tough uphill battle against the developer.

[Janette1]

I would like to count the times that I have heard "I can do everything you can do in The Villages and not pay your bonds or amenities." I, for one, am happy to know the new gate works.

[Cisco Kid]

Originally Posted by Janette1

I would like to count the times that I have heard "I can do everything you can do in The Villages and not pay your bonds or amenities." I, for one, am happy to know the new gate works.

True That.
I had a realtor tell me that about a small Truly Gated Community north of Umattilla Fl. Offered to show me the club house.

[rubicon]

The Senator's ploy is a canard. Its clear Stonecrest sold homes with the claim that buyers still could have The Villages Lifestyle without paying amenities. Clearly if that is not the case then why do these people continue this campaign.

In my view if non villages residents can travel freely on private multi-modal pathways then I am going to fight to have my amenities fees reduced.

As to charging non villagers amenity fees to use the pathways consider that we are not even at complete build out and the pathways are clogged now

[baustgen]

Simple solution. Issue a gate card to anyone who wants to pay $ 147.00 per month. Only good for the gate. Not for access to pools or golf.

[Mickedamouse24]

I must have not read somewhere that the VA Clinic mentioned has been moved! How does this gate stop veterans from accessing the VA Clinic on Hwy 42? Seems to be a good distance in a different direction from that gate and the clinic! Just saying!!!

[juneroses]

I had an "unwelcoming" event with Stonecrest several years ago. My husband and I, Villagers, traveled via golf cart to Lowe's and Wal-Mart. Saw the path to Stonecrest and I suggested going to the community to see what it was like.

We stopped at the access gate but were pleasantly denied entry. We could only proceed if a realtor accompanied us. We were surprised but were pleasant back and left.

Leaves me a bit unsympathetic to their wish for entry thru the access gate in question.

[Cisco Kid]

Originally Posted by juneroses

I had an "unwelcoming" event with Stonecrest several years ago. My husband and I, Villagers, traveled via golf cart to Lowe's and Wal-Mart. Saw the path to Stonecrest and I suggested going to the community to see what it was like.

We stopped at the access gate but were pleasantly denied entry. We could only proceed if a realtor accompanied us. We were surprised but were pleasant back and left.

Leaves me a bit unsympathetic to their wish for entry thru the access gate in question.

There it is

[Steph]

Not having moved in yet and thus no bearings, I googled Stonecrest to see where it is and its proximity to TV. I copied the following verbiage from a **** listing. It would seem that TV access by golf cart is a marketing highlight. Hopefully pasting this doesn't violate any of those copyright laws!
Stonecrest is a beautiful over 55 community, situated approx one mile north on the 27 from Spanish Springs.Our Home is a 3 bedroom...
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There is a Four Seat Gas Golf Cart at the house which enables access to Wal-Mart, Bealls, Lowes and the whole of the Villages with their Shops and Restaurants.

[Steve & Deanna]

Originally Posted by juneroses

I had an "unwelcoming" event with Stonecrest several years ago. My husband and I, Villagers, traveled via golf cart to Lowe's and Wal-Mart. Saw the path to Stonecrest and I suggested going to the community to see what it was like.

We stopped at the access gate but were pleasantly denied entry. We could only proceed if a realtor accompanied us. We were surprised but were pleasant back and left.

Leaves me a bit unsympathetic to their wish for entry thru the access gate in question.

The same thing happened to us quite a few years ago although we were in our car. We just wanted to tour the place and we could NOT get in unless accompanied by a realtor. Made a U turn and we were gone. The rest is history.....posted by Happy Villagers

[Steve & Deanna]

For those playing the 'Veterans Card', it is NOT the responsibility of The Villages to get veterans, or anybody else for that matter, to a doctor's appointment.

[dillywho]

Originally Posted by Cajulian

For your info, at the Paradise Gate there are no Multi-modal paths being used. So for the past 12 years carts came and went in both directions by Villagers going to Walmart/lowes/Aldi's, etc and Stonecresters going to doctors/post office/ Spanish Springs Town square.

It worked just fine for over a decade. The Villages were not over-run by Stonecresters. So no one is using Villages amenities for free. Villagers don't own the Hospitals, Doctors, Stores, Restaurants, Town Squares, or Streets.

Some people are so wrapped up and consumed by fears of "Stolen Amenities" that they worry themselves crazy over nothing.

I beg to differ with you. Don't know if it is still happening or not, but at one point some were selling their property in TV and moving to Stonecrest to avoid paying the amenities here. Using their out-of-state ID, they would then get their friends in TV to get them guest passes. Shame on those friends doing that! That, by the way, is known as "gaming" the system.

They can come in and play the Championship courses as non-residents, however.....just not by cart anymore. They have to drive in and then rent a cart. I had some ladies from there ask me one day at Hacienda if I could get them guest passes so that they could play the executive courses, too. My answer? No.

[CFrance]

Originally Posted by dillywho

I beg to differ with you. Don't know if it is still happening or not, but at one point some were selling their property in TV and moving to Stonecrest to avoid paying the amenities here. Using their out-of-state ID, they would then get their friends in TV to get them guest passes. Shame on those friends doing that! That, by the way, is known as "gaming" the system.

They can come in a play the Championship courses as non-residents, however.....just not by cart anymore. They have to drive in and then rent a cart. I had some ladies from there ask me one day at Hacienda if I could get them guest passes so that they could play the executive courses, too. My answer? No.

There's always somebody who wants something for nothing.