[twoplanekid]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

If I were to do it myself, which card should I order? I can find the small round cards but I don't know what Ellie uses that works fine.

He makes his own that are larger and more easily read. 352 530-5984 for Ellie

[charlie1]

Originally Posted by PoolBrews

How close do you need to get with these small discs? Looking at them they state a read distance of 3-10cm... that's less than 4" at max read and that is not close enough for our reader.

Look at the curbing by the card readers! Most are black from car tires. Many people with mirror transmitters need to get very close to the reader and hit the curb.

[twoplanekid]

Originally Posted by charlie1

Look at the curbing by the card readers! Most are black from car tires. Many people with mirror transmitters need to get very close to the reader and hit the curb.

As I have experience with both the smaller round readers and the larger one that Ellie makes, the smaller round reader works fine in mirrors that are not low to the ground. I usually place two or three of the smaller ones at different locations in a mirror. As the Tesla M3 is low to the ground, the larger one works better for me. People using the mirror cards have both hands on the wheel and are not districted with looking for a gate card so I would suggest that people using mirror gate cards are not the ones hitting the curb.

Watch the video of using the gate card in my Honda CRV

The easy way to open a gate in The Villages - YouTube

[PoolBrews]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

If the mirror housing is black and you use black duct tape and trim it, it is hardly noticeable.

By the way, you don't drive a new car. Everyone drives a used car. LOL.

My mirror housing on both my car and my golf cart are black. Black duct tape IS very noticeable (at least to me) on both of these mirrors, which is why I don't have a gate pass in those spots.

The only way I'll use an RFID tag is if it can be placed inside the mirror. It was on my last car, and worked fine, but it wasn't a disc, it was a long strip that was stuck inside the mirror. It was about 1" wide by 2 - 2 1/2" long.

Has anybody found these types of tags available? The larger (and therefore larger antenna) in an RFID tag, the farther away they can be activated and read.

[PoolBrews]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

He makes his own that are larger and more easily read. 352 530-5984 for Ellie

I highly doubt that he makes his own. He buys rewritable tags from somewhere and then writes data to them. He would need quite the production shop to actually manufacture his own tags.

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by PoolBrews

My mirror housing on both my car and my golf cart are black. Black duct tape IS very noticeable (at least to me) on both of these mirrors, which is why I don't have a gate pass in those spots.

The only way I'll use an RFID tag is if it can be placed inside the mirror. It was on my last car, and worked fine, but it wasn't a disc, it was a long strip that was stuck inside the mirror. It was about 1" wide by 2 - 2 1/2" long.

Has anybody found these types of tags available? The larger (and therefore larger antenna) in and RFID tag, the farther away they can be activated and read.

The only workable ones that I have found were the 25 mm discs sold on Amazon. They will work if properly placed inside the mirror housing. But I would recommend using at least 3 discs and arranging them in several orientations, such as vertical, horizontal, etc. Good luck.

[gego3650]

Originally Posted by retiredguy123

So, will you need to buy a new card to get a longer range? If so, when will these be available? I think it would solve most issues that people have.

no. card has nothing to do with distance. If you read specs on HID cards they are good for about 10 inches. The readers can have longer distance of reading.

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by gego3650

no. card has nothing to do with distance. If you read specs on HID cards they are good for about 10 inches. The readers can have longer distance of reading.

No.

The longer range system being tested requires both new readers and new cards. The last time it was discussed, the new cards would need to be purchased if you wanted one.

EDIT: Above info from a presentation to the PWAC some time ago and status updates more recently

[twoplanekid]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

No.

The longer range system being tested requires both new readers and new cards. The last time it was discussed, the new cards would need to be purchased if you wanted one.

EDIT: Above info from a presentation to the PWAC some time ago and status updates more recently

As I really enjoy using mirror cloned cards to open gates and have attended several Village meetings on this subject, I can't find where it is stated that the new readers would require new gate cards. They did mention that an optional longer range card might be available at some time in the future. My mirror gate cards still work with the Village equipment installed as of today. What gate has new equipment that makes my card not work?

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by twoplanekid

As I really enjoy using mirror cloned cards to open gates and have attended several Village meetings on this subject, I can't find where it is stated that the new readers would require new gate cards. They did mention that an optional longer range card might be available at some time in the future. My mirror gate cards still work with the Village equipment installed as of today. What gate has new equipment that makes my card not work?

I think a few ideas are getting conflated

- The recent work on the gate involved replacing control boards and software, not readers
- Your existing cloned card appears to still work
- Apparently, there are cards available with larger antennas that work at longer ranges with the existing readers
- The earlier proposal mentioned a long range reader and card system as an upgrade, this might require an additional reader at each gate
- The new cards were mentioned as something residents would need to purchase
- The new readers and cards are being tested by the District staff somewhere
- It was mentioned that the capability might be added to a gate(s) somewhere in the PWAC districts so that PWAC members might test it also

So…
1. Your cards still work and might continue to work
2. The long range cards were talked about as something the residents would need to buy
3. If the new cards worked with the existing readers then the PWAC would be able to test the capability with just a new card. However, the statement was made that the capability would need to be installed within the PWAC area. This is consistent with the wording of the earlier presentation.
4. It wasn’t clear whether the new reader would also work with the old cards or whether each gate would have two readers
5. The location of the system being tested today was never given

[twoplanekid]

Originally Posted by Bill14564

If I were to do it myself, which card should I order? I can find the small round cards but I don't know what Ellie uses that works fine.

I found a place in China that sells the larger 1" plus x 2.5 " card reader that has at least a 1 ft range that looks similar to what the professionals are selling. I received them today and tested (cloned) one out to be pleased. It may need to be sealed or secured in a different way than usual. I have one or two at $2 each you can try.

The smaller round ones work well in my Honda CRV that is higher but not the Tesla M3.


Rick

[Tustin714]

I just spoke with Ellie, who says he sold his business to a gentleman named Aly -- has anyone hired Aly to create the chip for their car? Thanks.

[jjdlad]

I can create a round disc duplicate for you for no charge if you are willing to drive to me. All I need is your Villages issued gate card in order to make a duplicate. It takes less than 1 minute.

If you are a DIY-er, the discs are about $1 each on Amazon and the duplicators are on sale for $11.

Amazon.com

Amazon.com

[MrFlorida]

Joe Striano / (845) 542-7365

[retiredguy123]

Originally Posted by jjdlad

I can create a round disc duplicate for you for no charge if you are willing to drive to me. All I need is your Villages issued gate card in order to make a duplicate. It takes less than 1 minute.

If you are a DIY-er, the discs are about $1 each on Amazon and the duplicators are on sale for $11.

Amazon.com

Amazon.com

I have those round discs, but I use 4 discs, 3 inside the mirror housing, and one taped on the outside edge. If you only put one disc inside the mirror housing, you may have difficulty activating the gate reader at some gates.