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Topspinmo 07-05-2024 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RRGuyNJ (Post 2347198)
You would think for the amount of $$ spent in amenities fees, bond fees and maintenance fees there would be a better system in place. Fumbling around looking for a card while driving jut to wave it out the window seems very outdated to me.

Redundant on public road card scanners are waste of money when you can just push red button. Gate guards are even bigger wast of money. IMO The gates on public street should open automatically with timed delay to allow break in traffic to allow golf carts to pass which why they are there in first place.

District 4 in Marion county only half way considered private roads due to district 4 pays for all road maintenance off B/V. When my street needs patched from water leak Sumter county contracted to patch asphalt. At least has been, been awhile since needed repairs in my neighborhood.

Maker 07-05-2024 09:47 AM

As an owner, I expect 100% honesty from maintenance and support organizations. For them to have my best interests in mind, never to spend my money foolishly, and to consider all alternatives before wasting money.
That level of care was severely lacking for this gate card issue. It has not been a successful project. Grade: F

Very annoyed about them spending millions of dollars that most view as unnecessary, to continue an obsolete way of operations, plus releasing misleading/false information. Adding nothing useful to the system. So what if "old cards" no longer work; the red buttons still work. This entire project was a huge waste of money since every gate could have been put in construction mode (opens automatically) at ZERO COST. Plus, the ongoing labor cost to issue and track cards would be eliminated to SAVE money. Revised grade: F-

Altavia 07-05-2024 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2347348)
As an owner, I expect 100% honesty from maintenance and support organizations. For them to have my best interests in mind, never to spend my money foolishly, and to consider all alternatives before wasting money.
That level of care was severely lacking for this gate card issue. It has not been a successful project. Grade: F

Very annoyed about them spending millions of dollars that most view as unnecessary, to continue an obsolete way of operations, plus releasing misleading/false information. Adding nothing useful to the system. So what if "old cards" no longer work; the red buttons still work. This entire project was a huge waste of money since every gate could have been put in construction mode (opens automatically) at ZERO COST. Plus, the ongoing labor cost to issue and track cards would be eliminated to SAVE money. Revised grade: F-

All to maintain the illusion of a gated community.

The Developer installs the latest technology in the form of license plate readers to protect construction areas and model homes.

Fastskiguy 07-05-2024 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by villagetinker (Post 2347039)
On a side note, I have been testing various gates and it seems the new readers easily read the cards through a CLOSED car window, and I have several other cards in the wallet.

Same. But I don't want to scuff my sweet rims so it's not uncommon to hold the card up to the window, wait a couple of seconds, decide it's not working, roll down the window, and swipe the card. Which is slow as all heck! But some are easier than others, that's for sure.

Joe

Fastskiguy 07-05-2024 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by shut the front door (Post 2347026)
You can buy your own duplicator on amazon for under $20. Some are saying that the new gate system will not work with these duplicated cards and stickers. Time will tell.

Are these t557 125mhz cards or ??

Joe

Altavia 07-05-2024 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Fastskiguy (Post 2347361)
Are these t557 125mhz cards or ??

Joe

Example:

YARONGTECH 125khz rewritable... Amazon.com

https://a.co/d/0cEKyerx

Wwdonley 07-05-2024 11:00 AM

Ellie Yifrach (352) 530-5984.

TRAYSEE 07-05-2024 11:35 AM

Gate card
 
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Originally Posted by Beats (Post 2347011)
There used to be a guy that installed a gate pass on your car mirror so that you didn't have to roll down your window. Purchased a new vehicle recently and forgot to remove mine on the old car. Please need name and contact number.

Ed Ingalls did mine. Tri Line Services (217) 433-1394

Nancy@Pinellas 07-05-2024 12:07 PM

I don’t have a name, but this number was in my phone. (845) 542-7365

Fastskiguy 07-05-2024 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2347366)
Example:

YARONGTECH 125khz rewritable... Amazon.com

https://a.co/d/0cEKyerx

Thank you sir!

JMintzer 07-05-2024 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2347239)
So, will you need to buy a new card to get a longer range? If so, when will these be available? I think it would solve most issues that people have.

No. It's the reader that will have the increased range...

JMintzer 07-05-2024 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os (Post 2347264)
I have heard that the chips will not be compatible with the new system they are supposed to be implementing. Mine still works.

You heard wrong...

JMintzer 07-05-2024 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2347348)
As an owner, I expect 100% honesty from maintenance and support organizations. For them to have my best interests in mind, never to spend my money foolishly, and to consider all alternatives before wasting money.
That level of care was severely lacking for this gate card issue. It has not been a successful project. Grade: F

Very annoyed about them spending millions of dollars that most view as unnecessary, to continue an obsolete way of operations, plus releasing misleading/false information. Adding nothing useful to the system. So what if "old cards" no longer work; the red buttons still work. This entire project was a huge waste of money since every gate could have been put in construction mode (opens automatically) at ZERO COST. Plus, the ongoing labor cost to issue and track cards would be eliminated to SAVE money. Revised grade: F-

Sigh... As has been explained, the upgrade was needed because they old system was running out of "card capacity". They need tot upgrade so they could continue to issue card for the new homes...

Maker 07-05-2024 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2347448)
Sigh... As has been explained, the upgrade was needed because they old system was running out of "card capacity". They need tot upgrade so they could continue to issue card for the new homes...

Modern, current technology card controllers are under $99 on Amazon.
But just put the gates in construction mode using existing hardware. ZERO cost, and no issues with running out of space.

Rodneysblue 07-05-2024 02:37 PM

Oh goody, here we go again.

JMintzer 07-05-2024 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodneysblue (Post 2347459)
Oh goody, here we go again.

Just wait until "the gates serve no purpose, and only give the illusion of a gated community" drum bangers get going!

Shipping up to Boston 07-05-2024 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2347348)
As an owner, I expect 100% honesty from maintenance and support organizations. For them to have my best interests in mind, never to spend my money foolishly, and to consider all alternatives before wasting money.
That level of care was severely lacking for this gate card issue. It has not been a successful project. Grade: F

Very annoyed about them spending millions of dollars that most view as unnecessary, to continue an obsolete way of operations, plus releasing misleading/false information. Adding nothing useful to the system. So what if "old cards" no longer work; the red buttons still work. This entire project was a huge waste of money since every gate could have been put in construction mode (opens automatically) at ZERO COST. Plus, the ongoing labor cost to issue and track cards would be eliminated to SAVE money. Revised grade: F-


None of this is about safety and security. It’s all about the data, statistics and tracking activity. Construction mode.....correct!

tedquick 07-05-2024 07:09 PM

A number of years ago about 30 or so of my neighbors and I had Ed Ingalls at 217-433-1394 do our golf carts as well as our cars. Don't know if he's still in business or not but it could be worth your time to give it a shot. Best of luck.

Sandy and Ed 07-06-2024 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2347448)
Sigh... As has been explained, the upgrade was needed because they old system was running out of "card capacity". They need tot upgrade so they could continue to issue card for the new homes...

I managed these gate cards in my 55+ community up north. We ran out of numbers as well and needed to convert to a newer system as a result. No big thing

JanRoberts 07-06-2024 06:46 AM

We had the man move our chip to our new car. We have to get closer but it still works. We've been trying to find him too expecting a problem with the new gates but it's working the same. I believe I read that the new system started on June 24th.

vmiman 07-06-2024 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Beats (Post 2347011)
There used to be a guy that installed a gate pass on your car mirror so that you didn't have to roll down your window. Purchased a new vehicle recently and forgot to remove mine on the old car. Please need name and contact number.

Yes--Call Doug 352 391 9494

Robojo 07-06-2024 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RobbyHarris (Post 2347104)
. New Readers=Meaningless for CLONED cards. Still work fine if cards are DUPLICATED. If card has a random number which some folks do then EVENTUALLY it is possible but highly unlikely they may only whitelist "real" numbers. .

If they want to block all cloned cards they would have to change all the readers to a new format (probably get rid of HID) and then change probably 100,000(??)+ existing cards figuring 2 cards for every home. I can say, the new reader devices (most READER DEVICES have NOT (yet?) been replaced, only the database software) are much much more sensitive than existing old ones which may eventually lead to a "legit" card or sticker affixed somewhere to your car.

All that being said, why even bother with gate cards. Automatic gates in both directions would do the identical job. Cameras can still read the plates. I wonder how many times a card code has been used for anything when a license plate is more accurate.

You can tell the new READERS (hardware) because they aren't all beat up and faded from the sun. One new READER (hardware) you can test is at the southern O'DELL circle entry gate off Morse closest to 466A. The gate at O'Dell Mallory is still old. The new one reads my mirror card from like 2-3 feet away where the older ones need you to get very much closer (like max about 1 foot.

The gates are useless. May every gate arm break and never be fixed. I don't like them.

CybrSage 07-06-2024 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kendi (Post 2347248)
It’s so easy to simply swipe the card with window open or closed. How spoiled we are to have to have a chip do that work for us.

Not so easy for a 5'2" (and a half, that half is important I was told) woman. My girl has lots of trouble.

CybrSage 07-06-2024 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2347348)
Very annoyed about them spending millions of dollars that most view as unnecessary... -

Do you have a link to the survey results, showing that most view the gates as unnecessary? I am interested to read how the questions were written. I assume you did not just make that info up.

Thanks!

chuckpedrey 07-06-2024 08:58 AM

The gate card signal will go through a car window. When the rain is pelting my car I always just hold my card close to my side window and parallel to the sensor light on the gate box and the gate always goes up.

retiredguy123 07-06-2024 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckpedrey (Post 2347654)
The gate card signal will go through a car window. When the rain is pelting my car I always just hold my card close to my side window and parallel to the sensor light on the gate box and the gate always goes up.

That technique does not work on all vehicles and all gates.

staciac 07-06-2024 10:42 AM

We used Joe Striano, 845-542-7365. Email is Mustang428j@gmail.com.

Traveling lady 07-06-2024 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Beats (Post 2347011)
There used to be a guy that installed a gate pass on your car mirror so that you didn't have to roll down your window. Purchased a new vehicle recently and forgot to remove mine on the old car. Please need name and contact number.

Joe
Gate Cards
845-542-7365

TVTVTV 07-06-2024 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by frayedends (Post 2347109)
I'm in the Lake Denham area and I have had no luck with any reader working without opening my window and getting real close. I drive up as close as possible but still have to open my window.

I am speculating that you're mirror chip might be defective, and you should get it replaced. Once in a while, a reader doesn't work, but 95% of the time they seem to all work on all the readers for most people with mirror chips.

JRcorvette 07-06-2024 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Robojo (Post 2347598)
The gates are useless. May every gate arm break and never be fixed. I don't like them.

Apparently you are clueless as to why we have gates. Think about it for a while and the next time you are sitting at a gate just look around you!

JMintzer 07-06-2024 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2347513)
None of this is about safety and security. It’s all about the data, statistics and tracking activity. Construction mode.....correct!

Uh, huh... And you know this how?

JMintzer 07-06-2024 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2347566)
I managed these gate cards in my 55+ community up north. We ran out of numbers as well and needed to convert to a newer system as a result. No big thing

Oh, hush! Facts like that will drive the conspiracy theorists crazy (well, crazier than they already are...)

JMintzer 07-06-2024 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Robojo (Post 2347598)
The gates are useless. May every gate arm break and never be fixed. I don't like them.

Just because you don't like them does not make them "useless"...

They do provide a valuable service...

JMintzer 07-06-2024 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CybrSage (Post 2347639)
Do you have a link to the survey results, showing that most view the gates as unnecessary? I am interested to read how the questions were written. I assume you did not just make that info up.

Thanks!

Never assume.

"In fact, he did just make it up..."

-Narrator (sounding like Morgan Freeman)

JMintzer 07-06-2024 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckpedrey (Post 2347654)
The gate card signal will go through a car window. When the rain is pelting my car I always just hold my card close to my side window and parallel to the sensor light on the gate box and the gate always goes up.

And that never worked in my wife's car, which is why we purchased the mirror chip...

JMintzer 07-06-2024 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JRcorvette (Post 2347732)
Apparently you are clueless as to why we have gates. Think about it for a while and the next time you are sitting at a gate just look around you!

Not everyone has a golf cart. I can see why those people might deem the gates "useless"...

But it's a selfish point of view...

Gvlpatty 07-06-2024 05:40 PM

Gate passes for car.
 
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Originally Posted by Beats (Post 2347011)
There used to be a guy that installed a gate pass on your car mirror so that you didn't have to roll down your window. Purchased a new vehicle recently and forgot to remove mine on the old car. Please need name and contact number.

Joe Striano
845-542-7365

He made ours two years ago.

Altavia 07-06-2024 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2347448)
Sigh... As has been explained, the upgrade was needed because they old system was running out of "card capacity". They need tot upgrade so they could continue to issue card for the new homes...

This upgrade was also presented as a way to block cloned or duplicate cards. In spite off the fact this is technically unfeasible without replacing all cards.

"The benefits of proper management of the access control system will further enhance the overall management of gate card data, further prevent card duplication and provide more robust reporting capabilities. "

Gate Software Standardization and Piggyback Agreement for Gate Maintenance

"Part of the upgrade includes the updating of the reader boards, according to Assistant District Manager Brittany Wilson, who is overseeing the upgrade.

With the updating of the reader boards, gate cards that have been cloned or duplicate may no longer function, Wilson said.

Only active cards are going to properly open the gate,” Wilson said.

In addition, those who have paid vendors to install a version of the cards on mirrors or windows of their golf carts and automobiles may find themselves in the same non-functioning boat.

Director of Resident Service Matt Armstrong "

Maker 07-07-2024 07:27 AM

Can anyone explain why construction mode would not be a good solution for all the gates? Where the entry gates operate like the exit gates. No card needed.

I see that as a huge financial win, even after they wasted millions already. Stop the spend now and at least prevent wasting more money.

Please don't mention cameras, because they would still record every vehicle.
Please don't mention restricting access cards, because every vehicle can already get past the gates with the red button.
Cars would still stop at gates exactly like they do today using cards.

JMintzer 07-07-2024 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Altavia (Post 2347805)
This upgrade was also presented as a way to block cloned or duplicate cards. In spite off the fact this is technically unfeasible without replacing all cards.

"The benefits of proper management of the access control system will further enhance the overall management of gate card data, further prevent card duplication and provide more robust reporting capabilities. "

Gate Software Standardization and Piggyback Agreement for Gate Maintenance

"Part of the upgrade includes the updating of the reader boards, according to Assistant District Manager Brittany Wilson, who is overseeing the upgrade.

With the updating of the reader boards, gate cards that have been cloned or duplicate may no longer function, Wilson said.

Only active cards are going to properly open the gate,” Wilson said.

In addition, those who have paid vendors to install a version of the cards on mirrors or windows of their golf carts and automobiles may find themselves in the same non-functioning boat.

Director of Resident Service Matt Armstrong "

Since many of the "duplicated cards", which are commonly used by people not living in TV, are old cards, that were never returned, that is most likely what he was speaking about...

They want to disable those cards, thus disabling their clones, as well...

AFA his cloned cards that are clones of active residents still living in TV no longer working, he's mistaken...


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