[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jimjamuser

I believe that there is NO WAY to improve the vision of people with macular degeneration, which is common in older populations. It can only be somewhat STABILIZED with eye vitamins. These people can and WILL continue to drive so it is up to the particular authorities to develop the MOST VISIBLE gates possible. Or go to a stop light INSTEAD of rising gates, which obviously have problems, which we are discussing solutions to.

Hmmmm.... A capitalized "no way". Are you asking me or telling me???? If you are telling me, see picture below. If you are asking, many patients with MD get improvement with injections of avastin.

[billethkid]

If those who try to beat the gates or tailgate were eliminated from the numbers I am guessing there would not be as many broken gate arms! Those who are in a hurry and try to beat the system should bear the burden of the costs.

If the cameras serve their purpose then there should be a significant fine charged (enough to pay for gate repair/replace).

But like so many things these days, for what ever reasons there is no enforcement.....hence violations continue and those who violate feel free to continue doing so.

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[retiredguy123]

I hate speed bumps (and a lot of other things).

[Bill14564]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Let's see (or not see as the case may be). If people claim they can't see a red and white gate arm at eye level, do you really think they will see a speed bump?????

Oh.. wait for it......

[JMintzer]

Originally Posted by cjrjck

Huh? If you can put a gate arm there you can surely put a speed bump there. My point is that the exit gate arms serve no purpose in a community that really does not have controlled access. If you say it is to slow down traffic as it exits, then put a speed bump there instead. Then nobody will hit the gate arms.

Ummm... No you can't... The FL DOT has to do it...

[Marathon Man]

I would like to see, "I hit a gate and here is why ..."

Hitting gates because they are "hard to see" is a theory. Hitting gates for other reasons seems more likely to me.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Marathon Man

I would like to see, "I hit a gate and here is why ..." .

Ain't gonna hear why.....................the driver was doing something wrong. Period.

[Marathon Man]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Ain't gonna hear why.....................the driver was doing something wrong. Period.

Of course. But, I am looking for "because I did not see the gate". All this talk about making the gates more visible, and no one has confirmed that is the reason they get hit.

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

Most frogs know how these gates work from the number of times that they are coming and going.
That leaves most part-time visitors that are confused.

Honestly, when we first moved here, no body told me there should only be one car at time going
though when the gate is up.

Stonecrest has the lighted gates that seem to work better, but I suppose they get hit also.

LOL, when we were first looking years ago, the PROPERTY of the VILLAGES rep. showing us around offered his car. We thanked him but said we'd prefer to just follow him in our own vehicle. He said, "Oh of course, that's fine, just wanted to offer.... just be SURE to stay very close to my bumper when we come to a gate, stay close and just go through with me." So funny, many years ago, and at the time we thought all of it (gates process) strange, but sure enough, hubby hesitantly stayed close to the reps rear bumper as he said ... and thankfully we never hit a gate or had a gate hit us. Now I just shudder thinking who it was who told us that "tip"... the person is still around ! Another amusing (?) story, we brought a camcorder, anyone remember those ? We finished our tour with him at the S.S. office and parked in a parking space on the street, right behind him (plenty of street parking in the summer months back then). We were walking into the office with him and realized we had not locked the car and LEFT THE CAMCORDER ON THE FRONT SEAT. When hubby explained why he needed to go back and lock the car, our rep chuckled and said, "definitely do if you feel more comfortable, but nobody HERE is going to bother it, you don't have to worry here, that's for sure." This was the same time period when there were "warning signs" when you entered The Villages: Caution, YOU ARE ENTERING A GOLF CART COMMUNITY, GOLF CARTS HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY. Time sure does march on, and things .... change... That wonderful old Buchara bakery, now DD !

[Pairadocs]

Originally Posted by Michael G.

Most frogs know how these gates work from the number of times that they are coming and going.
That leaves most part-time visitors that are confused.

Honestly, when we first moved here, no body told me there should only be one car at time going
though when the gate is up.

Stonecrest has the lighted gates that seem to work better, but I suppose they get hit also.

LOL, when we were first looking years ago, the PROPERTY of the VILLAGES rep. showing us around offered his car. We thanked him but said we'd prefer to just follow him in our own vehicle. He said, "Oh of course, that's fine, just wanted to offer.... just be SURE to stay very close to my bumper when we come to a gate, stay close and just go through with me." So funny, many years ago, and at the time we thought all of it (gates process) strange, but sure enough, hubby hesitantly stayed close to the reps rear bumper as he said ... and thankfully we never hit a gate or had a gate hit us. Now I just shudder thinking who it was who told us that "tip"... the person is still around ! Another amusing (?) story, we brought a camcorder, anyone remember those ? We finished our tour with him at the S.S. office and parked in a parking space on the street, right behind him (plenty of street parking in the summer months back then). We were walking into the office with him and realized we had not locked the car and LEFT THE CAMCORDER ON THE FRONT SEAT. When hubby explained why he needed to go back and lock the car, our rep chuckled and said, "definitely do if you feel more comfortable, but nobody HERE is going to bother it, you don't have to worry here, that's for sure." This was the same time period when there were "warning signs" when you entered The Villages: Caution, YOU ARE ENTERING A GOLF CART COMMUNITY, GOLF CARTS HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY. Time sure does march on, and things .... change... That wonderful old Buchara bakery, now DD !

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Marathon Man

Of course. But, I am looking for "because I did not see the gate". All this talk about making the gates more visible, and no one has confirmed that is the reason they get hit.

Roger that, but I doubt the response results will be accurate.........easier to blame something (gate's fault) or someone else.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Hmmmm.... A capitalized "no way". Are you asking me or telling me???? If you are telling me, see picture below. If you are asking, many patients with MD get improvement with injections of avastin.

There are 2 types of macular degeneration (MD).....wet type and dry type. Injections work for the WET type. The dry type (thinning of the retina) has NO CURE. I was talking about the dry type. I have a friend that has the dry type so I have personal knowledge of that type.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Maker

Every suggestion to "fixing" the problem involves spending money. Lots of money.
Except one option - remove all the gates. Also clear out all the landscaping blocking line of sight. Saves a bundle of money now, and every year in the future.
These are public roads, so golf carts have to yield to all cars until the road is 100% clear. No matter if its 10 cars in a row - golf cart cannot enter the road and impede a car in any manner. Gates do not alter the law; and do not give golf carts the right to enter a road in front of a car at a gate. Carts required to wait.
These are public roads, so speed bumps are not allowed here. Making a profit from a gate arm strike is also not allowed (interesting that TV may be doing that now, and could be heading for a class action lawsuit)

I particularly agree with the statement advising " to clear away landscaping that is blocking line of sight. I see that often on the round-a-bouts there is landscaping blocking drivers' vision. I know of one swimming pool where to exit safely a driver must SLOWLY move out into about the middle of a street to be able to see around an overgrown plant. There is a resident owner that has a hedge that blocks the view of drivers leaving the parking area near the silver lake tennis court, rec center, and golf course - it is so OBVIOUS but nothing has been done in my 10 years here. Also, at the Shay Gate in the pre-historic village, there needs to be some land removed from the Church there in order to allow a smooth right turn from up the hill toward the Rec center.
........I could go on and on with simple fixes that would make for better traffic safety in TV Land. And I am sure that other residents in OTHER Villages could SUGGEST safety fixes that are CHEAP to expedite. I have NEVER understood why the Community Standards drivers are UNABLE to make these types of suggestions and get them approved. After all, I doubt that they are that busy as they leisurely drive around.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

Hmmmm.... A capitalized "no way". Are you asking me or telling me???? If you are telling me, see picture below. If you are asking, many patients with MD get improvement with injections of avastin.

Somehow that HUGE PICTURE proclaiming a MEDICAL DEGREE strikes me as somewhat less than understated! Somehow I see a psychological need for self-proclamation. But, I will be gracious and take the high road and by sheer willpower, remove that image from my consciousness in the interest of the coming together of social classes.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by Pairadocs

LOL, when we were first looking years ago, the PROPERTY of the VILLAGES rep. showing us around offered his car. We thanked him but said we'd prefer to just follow him in our own vehicle. He said, "Oh of course, that's fine, just wanted to offer.... just be SURE to stay very close to my bumper when we come to a gate, stay close and just go through with me." So funny, many years ago, and at the time we thought all of it (gates process) strange, but sure enough, hubby hesitantly stayed close to the reps rear bumper as he said ... and thankfully we never hit a gate or had a gate hit us. Now I just shudder thinking who it was who told us that "tip"... the person is still around ! Another amusing (?) story, we brought a camcorder, anyone remember those ? We finished our tour with him at the S.S. office and parked in a parking space on the street, right behind him (plenty of street parking in the summer months back then). We were walking into the office with him and realized we had not locked the car and LEFT THE CAMCORDER ON THE FRONT SEAT. When hubby explained why he needed to go back and lock the car, our rep chuckled and said, "definitely do if you feel more comfortable, but nobody HERE is going to bother it, you don't have to worry here, that's for sure." This was the same time period when there were "warning signs" when you entered The Villages: Caution, YOU ARE ENTERING A GOLF CART COMMUNITY, GOLF CARTS HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY. Time sure does march on, and things .... change... That wonderful old Buchara bakery, now DD !

A nice story about the good old safe, pre-crime days in TV Land. If only that time capsule had continued indefinitely. Today in every part of the US many bad crimes are occurring. For how much longer will TV Land continue to be SPARED ????? Australia could teach the US so many things, yet no ears are open to change TODAY..