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[QUOTE=Chatbrat;1576731]Buy the cart you're on your own---good luck--no seat belts-no air bags-- no crush zone

When you do as we do, live in a Community where HAPPY HOURS start at 10 am., well then, JUST face it, you are surrounded by alcoholics, well not Alcoholics, just people who drink too much. For instance, we cannot ride our Bicycles after noon, on the MMPs, speedways!! We really need Carts to be Registered, need a RESPONSIBLE agent SO WE ARE able to report offenders. Need carts to have large identifying numbers. How is this? About 1 pm, I am slowly going along in our Golf Cart ON MMP. Two guys, come on very fast from behind, and pass VERY close, the passenger leans over and swats my rear-view mirror, breaks the bracket. They speed off in their souped up YAMMA gasser. In about the next 100 feet, passenger throws out a beer can, the next 100 Feet, the driver tosses his empty pint of booze. Be careful folks.
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Here is an interesting article on golf cart use in retirement communities and even some urban/suburban areas. It leads out describing their use in The Villages. The (Mostly) Safe Golf Cart - The New York Times
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LSV's are to go 25 mph....unless you know something we don't at our house as we have an LSV. We've had people pass us and leave us in their "dust" in a regular on--anyone going over 25 mph. in a golf-cart is breaking the law.
Isn't it over 20 mph in a golf cart is breaking the law?
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Isn't it over 20 mph in a golf cart is breaking the law?
YUP...except for licensed/registered LSV's that legally can go 25 mph. They have to have seat belts as well. TOO many soup up their gas runned ones though and break the law. NOT worth it if they get tagged for something as they'll pay big bucks in court costs and fines.
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If anyone actually has an lsv (street legal) it's 25 max. You cannot have an LSV without it technically being street legal (registered and insured and plated like a car). If you have an lsv and it isn't registered and doesn't have FL license plates and insurance you are not legal as all that you are doing is driving an unlicensed motor vehicle whether it be on road or only on golf cart paths.


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YUP...except for licensed/registered LSV's that legally can go 25 mph. They have to have seat belts as well. TOO many soup up their gas runned ones though and break the law. NOT worth it if they get tagged for something as they'll pay big bucks in court costs and fines.
Not just gas, most par carts and star carts electric's will run well over 30 MPH, get passed everyday by golfers speeding to the next tee times.
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I’m sorry to hear of a person being injured. I too agree caution is the name of the game and drive defensively, I always assume someone else is not going to stop or is driving too fast. Even though our golf cart can easily hit 30 MPH we keep it between 18 and 20 mph. I’m also of the mindset there are much greater dangers on the road driving a car than a golf cart. Once upon a time I sweat profusely just knowing I was boarding a plane, I was sure my flight was the one that was going to crash!! I now think if my time has come, it has come and there’s not much I can do about it. But that doesn’t give me the right to act like a boob behind the wheel of a golf cart, since getting here a month ago my wife and I sometimes just shake our heads at some of the driving. It’s not everyone but like anything else there’s always a few.
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Buy the cart you're on your own---good luck--no seat belts-no air bags-- no crush zone

When you do as we do, live in a Community where HAPPY HOURS start at 10 am., well then, JUST face it, you are surrounded by alcoholics, well not Alcoholics, just people who drink too much. For instance, we cannot ride our Bicycles after noon, on the MMPs, speedways!! We really need Carts to be Registered, need a RESPONSIBLE agent SO WE ARE able to report offenders. Need carts to have large identifying numbers. How is this? About 1 pm, I am slowly going along in our Golf Cart ON MMP. Two guys, come on very fast from behind, and pass VERY close, the passenger leans over and swats my rear-view mirror, breaks the bracket. They speed off in their souped up YAMMA gasser. In about the next 100 feet, passenger throws out a beer can, the next 100 Feet, the driver tosses his empty pint of booze. Be careful folks.
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You must live below 466? Other than very few empty bottles I rarely see what you see. IMO majority of speed law breakers are golfers and mostly but, not all men
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How many times have you seen a golf-cart driver merge out into traffic from the diamond trail by signaling, or not, when a car is coming fast upon them? They don't slow down (the cart) but just go....in this case I believe the car has the right of way and the cart is to yield. How many times have you seen a golf-cart driver turn left from the diamond trail and cross both lanes of car/traffic? I have on both of these points! How many times have you seen carts try to cross (from the left) car/vehicle traffic just as this cart accident did on Heald Way trying to beat said traffic? Most times they do but is it worth the effort in the event they don't? I've also seen cart drivers pass other carts on the diamond path and seemingly not checking to see if there is car/truck traffic coming behind them (think on North Morse past 466). People seem to lose their focus once they're driving. I still contend they bring their bad driving habits when they move here! Not stopping or yielding at signs---probably did it before. Not signaling---probably did it before. Taking chances? Well----probably did it before. Is it all worth it???
No not really, if you hit the cart in the rear you are at fault in majority of accidents. Now if you plow into the side of the cart then you will probably have the right of way. Even if I'm going 30 iand cart going 20 when he signals ahead of me I have to yield to vehicles in from of me cause it's I hit them in the rear 99.9999999% of the time I will be at fault. Besides most cars rarely go the speed limit which makes it bad situation approaching carts in diamond lane which IMO causes most accidents from speed in and cart drivers not seeing traffic behind them.
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Do the golf cart dealers, or any other 3rd party offer safety or a safe operating class for cart owners?

I know these are offered to motorcycle riders by ABATE and other similar groups.

Where my mother lives (she is 97) they have safety classes for electric wheelchairs (Jazzys and such) and the residents must pass the class every couple of years.
I think TV offers a class at Colony.
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I was driving 19.4 MPH in my cart yesterday and two passed me, one was so fast, I actually lost sight of him. Why, oh why so fast?
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If anyone actually has an lsv (street legal) it's 25 max. You cannot have an LSV without it technically being street legal (registered and insured and plated like a car). If you have an lsv and it isn't registered and doesn't have FL license plates and insurance you are not legal as all that you are doing is driving an unlicensed motor vehicle whether it be on road or only on golf cart paths.


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Effective July 1, 2013, The Florida Legislature amended FS 319.14 to allow the conversion of a Low Speed Vehicle (LSV) to a golf cart.
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I think TV offers a class at Colony.
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The Golf cart Safety Clinic is held at the Colony Recreation Center at 9:00 AM on the third (3rd) Wednesday Morning of each month.
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[emoji4] Effective July 1, 2013, The Florida Legislature amended FS 319.14 to allow the conversion of a Low Speed Vehicle (LSV) to a golf cart.


That is correct but I don’t quite understand what that has to do with my comment. Yes, It can be “decommissioned.” You have to go to DMV and pay to have it “unrecorded” as a LSV and the catch is you can’t go back to LSV again. You also must certify it can no longer go over 20mph. I also think (not sure because I forgot to ask) that you need to supply dealer certification that the change was made. If it is still capable of exceeding 20 it cannot go back to golf-cart. I am selling my street legal LSV Atomic so I have been looking into this in case the buyer doesn’t want a LSV but a GC.

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IMO majority of speed law breakers are golfers and mostly but, not all men
How in the world do you conclude that the majority of speed law breakers are golfers?
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