[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by dewilson58

Another bonehead discussion with an Ambass.

If you want to let a single or group play thru, go for it.

Now, you know better than that.

[banjobob]

Not that specific of incident but they are to monitor time of play, this seems to be a lack of common sense or a new ambassador.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

And also, I don't know of any course in the country where a single has any standing whatsoever.

You need to get out more and pay more attention to the Rules of Golf. A "Single" has the same standing as a Foursome or any other group, per the USGA.

[La lamy]

Originally Posted by Calisport

Commonly if you let people play ahead, the people behind you are delayed waiting for 2 groups now in front of them rather than 2. If the course was empty not as much a problem

That makes no sense to me. It's still just 2 groups ahead of the third coming up (as mentioned in quote!). They just traded places.

[Laker14]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

You need to get out more and pay more attention to the Rules of Golf. A "Single" has the same standing as a Foursome or any other group, per the USGA.

the USGA? Really? Pace-of-play issues and guidelines are generally handled by the individual clubs, not the USGA. I'd be interested in looking at any USGA sourced link you have on this issue.

[nn0wheremann]

Originally Posted by advp007

I had an interesting encounter with an Ambassador today. Our group of 3 let a single play through. Three holes later we were told this is against the rules. The reason she gave was that it messed up their bookkeeping as they didn’t know who was where. Apparently it is more important to keep their bookkeeping straight than to allow a single to play through. Anyone else have this happen to them?

The starter delayed everyone waiting for a couple of no-shows to come to the course. Naturally everyone is backed up. Then on the sixth hole the ambassador starts wagging his finger and pointing at his watch. At the published time of 90 minutes to play the course we were ten minutes ahead at that point. I thought about telling him that, but there was no point. Some folks need their power trip. Let ‘em have it.

[jedalton]

as a current ambassador, that is not true. That was the proper thing to do.

[jedalton]

as a current ambassador, we try to run ahead but if a couple has a tee time reserved we have to wait until that time to see if they show up. now we are a bit behind. my solution, charge 5 points for no shows, 2 points if they call and cancel. would end in a hurry.

[jedalton]

as a current ambassador, not true. we do enforce the rules

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

You need to get out more and pay more attention to the Rules of Golf. A "Single" has the same standing as a Foursome or any other group, per the USGA.

I need to get out more????? Pay attention to the rules???? After 52 years of competitive golf?????? My response:

And there's this from the rules of golf: "A single player has no standing, and must always give way to a properly constituted match."

Now, in 2004 you are correct in that there was a rules modification that emphasized pace of play over size of group, and a later clarification that considered a single as a "group" However, that does not give a single the right to play through multiple larger groups in rapid succession. Furthermore, this is frequently covered in the LOCAL RULES that make a statement regarding singles. Here in The Villages, the powers that be prohibit any group of any size from playing through. If there is a slow group it is up to the ambassador to move them along and even have them skip a hole (which rarely happens)

[jedalton]

as a current ambassador, it's very easy to fix on my time sheet. simply switch the single with the foursome. everything will be correct then

[loreejl]

Sorry but you are all missing the point, it is all about the money. If the ambassadors keep everyone in order then no one can sneak on and play without being noticed. Same reason the ambassadors will not make anyone skip a hole if they are behind.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by jedalton

as a current ambassador, it's very easy to fix on my time sheet. simply switch the single with the foursome. everything will be correct then

Or alternatively, as an ambassador, you might remind golfers that their place on the course is directly behind the group ahead of them, not directly ahead of the group behind them

[jedalton]

dead wrong again, as a current ambassador, we can make a player or group skip a hole.

[barbnick]

Let’s not put all Ambassadors in the same boat. A few will run the course by the rules.
Unless you actually work the job you have no idea what it entails.
If you show courtesy you will get courtesy returned.
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