[thevillages2013]

If there is a single pushing my group and there are holes open in front of my group I am letting that single play through every time. It’s just the right thing to do . Spank me

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by jedalton

as a current ambassador, we can make a player or group skip a hole.

I would sell tickets to watch this.

[Aloha1]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

And also, I don't know of any course in the country where a single has any standing whatsoever.

Per USGA rules, a single has no standing BUT another rule says players can let a faster group ( or single) play through. Of course TV never follows USGA rules.

[Accidental1]

Originally Posted by Aloha1

Per USGA rules, a single has no standing BUT another rule says players can let a faster group ( or single) play through. Of course TV never follows USGA rules.

Please quote the rule that states singles have no standing, I can’t seem to find it.

I typically let faster players through because it’s the right thing to do.

[ThirdOfFive]

From my experience those ambassadors do an excellent job. Congenial and knowledgeable, they give Villages golf a positive face.

Now and again (rarely) you encounter one who goes against that particular grain. My wife and I always walk, using pullcarts which we rent from the starter shack. I had my pullcart adjacent to the tee box and an ambassador pulled up and rather officiously told me that I could not have a pull cart in the tee box. I pointed out that my cart was BETWEEN the black and gold tee boxes, resting on a rather scruffy piece of dirt, and was a good six feet from either box. He mumbled something and left.

[mtomlinson]

They changed the rules/guidelines years ago to give priority to a groups speed of play rather than numbers in the group which gave priority to singles, assuming they were playing faster. Personally, in 21 years in TV, I have NEVER been let through no matter how slow or how far behind the group in front has been .

[Bogie Shooter]

Originally Posted by loreejl

Sorry but you are all missing the point, it is all about the money. If the ambassadors keep everyone in order then no one can sneak on and play without being noticed. Same reason the ambassadors will not make anyone skip a hole if they are behind.

I bet that sneaking on is a major problem. Where did you get that idea?

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Accidental1

Please quote the rule that states singles have no standing, I can’t seem to find it.

I typically let faster players through because it’s the right thing to do.

U R no accident, that's the right thing to do.

[Tom M]

Originally Posted by nn0wheremann

The starter delayed everyone waiting for a couple of no-shows to come to the course. Naturally everyone is backed up. Then on the sixth hole the ambassador starts wagging his finger and pointing at his watch. At the published time of 90 minutes to play the course we were ten minutes ahead at that point. I thought about telling him that, but there was no point. Some folks need their power trip. Let ‘em have it.

The starter held up for someone who was late?

My wife and I were over 10 minutes ahead of our scheduled tee time and starter said he already sent out the rest of our group we were assigned to be paired with because they were running ahead of pace. Said it's our fault as we should be there 20-30 minutes before our tee time. Had us join them on the 2nd tee (still before our scheduled tee time on #1).

[JR&TR]

Originally Posted by Calisport

Commonly if you let people play ahead, the people behind you are delayed waiting for 2 groups now in front of them rather than 2. If the course was empty not as much a problem

People behind you would be held up because of 2 groups ahead of them instead of 2?

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by golfing eagles

I need to get out more????? Pay attention to the rules???? After 52 years of competitive golf?????? My response:

And there's this from the rules of golf: "A single player has no standing, and must always give way to a properly constituted match."

Now, in 2004 you are correct in that there was a rules modification that emphasized pace of play over size of group, and a later clarification that considered a single as a "group" However, that does not give a single the right to play through multiple larger groups in rapid succession. Furthermore, this is frequently covered in the LOCAL RULES that make a statement regarding singles. Here in The Villages, the powers that be prohibit any group of any size from playing through. If there is a slow group it is up to the ambassador to move them along and even have them skip a hole (which rarely happens)

You need to read UPDATED Rules of Golf. The statement you quoted, hasn't appeared in the Rules of Golf for at least 15 years. It's been modified at least twice, since.

Playing through: The rule that everyone ignores - National Club Golfer

I'm not disputing whether Clubs have the right to discourage folks from allowing slower groups to allow players to "play through", clubs can do whatever they wish. I was merely correcting those who claim "Singles have no standing" on the golf course. That's simply wrong and harkens back to the Rules of Golf adopted in 1899 ... this is a new day.

[JR&TR]

Originally Posted by advp007

I had an interesting encounter with an Ambassador today. Our group of 3 let a single play through. Three holes later we were told this is against the rules. The reason she gave was that it messed up their bookkeeping as they didn’t know who was where. Apparently it is more important to keep their bookkeeping straight than to allow a single to play through. Anyone else have this happen to them?

So much for common curtesy? Common practice up here in Minnesota.

[dewilson58]

Originally Posted by Tom M

The starter held up for someone who was late?

My wife and I were over 10 minutes ahead of our scheduled tee time and starter said he already sent out the rest of our group we were assigned to be paired with because they were running ahead of pace.

That happened to me (no wife) at Glenview.
Then the bonehead starter sent me out as a single.



Starters get all excited to send players out early.........personal, internal brownie points.

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by Accidental1

Please quote the rule that states singles have no standing, I can’t seem to find it.

I typically let faster players through because it’s the right thing to do.

That "rule" was removed from the Rules of Golf, in 2004. Singles have the same "standing" as any other group and the USGA recommends allowing faster groups, to play through.

[yankygrl]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

You need to read UPDATED Rules of Golf. The statement you quoted, hasn't appeared in the Rules of Golf for at least 15 years. It's been modified at least twice, since.

Playing through: The rule that everyone ignores - National Club Golfer

I'm not disputing whether Clubs have the right to discourage folks from allowing slower groups to allow players to "play through", clubs can do whatever they wish. I was merely correcting those who claim "Singles have no standing" on the golf course. That's simply wrong and harkens back to the Rules of Golf adopted in 1899 ... this is a new day.

The Villages is special and regular rules may not apply especially on executive courses.