Epoxy vs Stain on Birdcage Cement Patio Floor

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I am getting some very contradictory advice from a few contractors on what I should do to my birdcage flooring. I just recently added a birdcage to the side of my home and was ready to put down epoxy from the same company that did the epoxy to my garage floor. I have been told now by two contractors not to do so, as it won’t hold up well in a few years, since it is exposed to rain and the elements. I am going to stain my driveway later this month, and one contractor recommended I just carry that stain and design into my birdcage, as it will last much longer with less upkeep/care than if I put down epoxy that he said will chip and discolor in a few short years.

I am interested in what other TOTV villagers have done that have a birdcage with a floor that is exposed to rain.

As usual, thanks for your helpful advice.
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When we bought our house seven years ago, we had Cool-Deck (or maybe it is Kool-Deck) put on the floor of our lanai and it still looks very, very good.
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I am getting some very contradictory advice from a few contractors on what I should do to my birdcage flooring. I just recently added a birdcage to the side of my home and was ready to put down epoxy from the same company that did the epoxy to my garage floor. I have been told now by two contractors not to do so, as it won’t hold up well in a few years, since it is exposed to rain and the elements. I am going to stain my driveway later this month, and one contractor recommended I just carry that stain and design into my birdcage, as it will last much longer with less upkeep/care than if I put down epoxy that he said will chip and discolor in a few short years.

I am interested in what other TOTV villagers have done that have a birdcage with a floor that is exposed to rain.

As usual, thanks for your helpful advice.

We had our driveway and Lani stained recently by Creative Concrete. They can make it look like anything you want.
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don't do epoxy on the lanai to slippery when wet and wont hold up in sun Just paint it like a driveway and be sure they put enough anti slip because it will be wet
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We had the driveway, lanai, and birdcage all "stained" by Driveways by Jay. The driveway was done over 8 years ago and still looks great, with NO sealing, just occasional power washing. We had the other 2 done a couple of years later, with the same results. The stain (paint?) is xylene based and holds up very well to the elements and the sun.
You can reach Driveways by Jay through Hometown Services. I highly recommend his work.
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We had the driveway, lanai, and birdcage all "stained" by Driveways by Jay. The driveway was done over 8 years ago and still looks great, with NO sealing, just occasional power washing. We had the other 2 done a couple of years later, with the same results. The stain (paint?) is xylene based and holds up very well to the elements and the sun.
You can reach Driveways by Jay through Hometown Services. I highly recommend his work.
VT, do you have a picture? I put out a post asking what people have done in their CYV patios but got no response.
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Epoxy on 2012 lanai facing south and birdcage started flaking and discolored, less than 4 years.

River rock applied 2010 patio and lanai still looks the same as the day Matt Almas applied it. Soft on bare feet water doesn't stand on it. Matt has passed away, but I understand his son might have continued business
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VT, do you have a picture? I put out a post asking what people have done in their CYV patios but got no response.
The look we have is cobble stone, I found a photo after we expanded the driveway, and Jay was able to match the existing design and colors.
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Liquid Floors - for both the garage and the lanai.
Liquid Floors is a polyaspartic coating that is tougher than epoxy. I had epoxy on my garage floor up north and found it fading, deteriorating, and absorbing stains after a few years. The polyaspartic coating is applied after a base coat and a color speckle layer. It has a tough, glossy, plastic surface that we have yet to damage after 2 years. Our son, in Minnesota has had this coating on his garage floors 5-6 years and they still look new.

Yes, it is slippery when wet, but you know that and walk on it accordingly.

Liquid Floors is a franchise business which will connect you with a local installer. Ours (name forgotten) was very professional in both management and the people who did the work. We're very pleased.

Pictures here, and yes the real world results look just like the product gallery.
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Another vote for Driveways by Jay. They do a tremendous job of prepping the surfaces, and applying the finish. The man is an artist, and the material he uses includes UV inhibitors and does not require a sealer topcoat...hence no periodic resealing. We were, and have been, very happy with his work.
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I have Chattahoochi River Rock. Who do you use to stain it? If you do it yourself, what sealant do you use? I only found it Home Depot.
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I am getting some very contradictory advice from a few contractors on what I should do to my birdcage flooring. I just recently added a birdcage to the side of my home and was ready to put down epoxy from the same company that did the epoxy to my garage floor. I have been told now by two contractors not to do so, as it won’t hold up well in a few years, since it is exposed to rain and the elements. I am going to stain my driveway later this month, and one contractor recommended I just carry that stain and design into my birdcage, as it will last much longer with less upkeep/care than if I put down epoxy that he said will chip and discolor in a few short years.

I am interested in what other TOTV villagers have done that have a birdcage with a floor that is exposed to rain.

As usual, thanks for your helpful advice.
Talk to Sherwin Williams about XYLENE. Not a paint, it's a concrete stain. It's Very resilient. Toxic and fussy to apply but great results. They can recommend a contractor.
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I am getting some very contradictory advice from a few contractors on what I should do to my birdcage flooring. I just recently added a birdcage to the side of my home and was ready to put down epoxy from the same company that did the epoxy to my garage floor. I have been told now by two contractors not to do so, as it won’t hold up well in a few years, since it is exposed to rain and the elements. I am going to stain my driveway later this month, and one contractor recommended I just carry that stain and design into my birdcage, as it will last much longer with less upkeep/care than if I put down epoxy that he said will chip and discolor in a few short years.

I am interested in what other TOTV villagers have done that have a birdcage with a floor that is exposed to rain.

As usual, thanks for your helpful advice.
I slipped and twisted my knee in a spot of water on my epoxied garage floor.
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Apparently the previous owner of CHATTAHOOCHEE RIVERROCK passed away (motorcycle accident) and his brother has restarted the business. If interested in this product, here is the link to his website:
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